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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 20, 2019 17:34:29 GMT -5
I understand where he’s coming from, you don’t want to see them becoming TNA and just hiring any old scrub that ever worked for WWE. The weird thing though is... all these disgruntled talents eyeing the exits, most of them aren’t what we’d generally call scrubs. That’s how strong the talents levels in the WWE roster have been the last few years. It’s finding the balance between not getting that TNA reputation, but not passing up the quality talents that might eventually become available, be they Luke Harper, Sasha Banks or The Revival, solely to avoid that. Or wcw under Bischoff where he hired everyone involved with the wwf, even Lanny Poffo and the guy who made copies at Titan. At least Lanny, I can get from the standpoint of them probably hiring him to placate Savage, like them putting Angelo Poffo in the WCW Hall of Fame. What's more puzzling is them leaving him at home, you'd figure you could at least use the guy if you're going to pay him six figures.
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Post by Jacy Derangement Syndrome on Apr 20, 2019 17:40:36 GMT -5
Known in the trade as the f*** Tye Dillinger rule
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 20, 2019 17:47:01 GMT -5
Or wcw under Bischoff where he hired everyone involved with the wwf, even Lanny Poffo and the guy who made copies at Titan. At least Lanny, I can get from the standpoint of them probably hiring him to placate Savage, like them putting Angelo Poffo in the WCW Hall of Fame. What's more puzzling is them leaving him at home, you'd figure you could at least use the guy if you're going to pay him six figures. The corporate culture always sucked in wcw. Iron Sheik got an extra year because they forgot to fire him. Lanny stayed on his ass at home making six figures for three years, and I will never believe Bischoff when he says that he just took a hundred grand out of Randy’s salary to pay Lanny.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Apr 20, 2019 17:54:50 GMT -5
At least Lanny, I can get from the standpoint of them probably hiring him to placate Savage, like them putting Angelo Poffo in the WCW Hall of Fame. What's more puzzling is them leaving him at home, you'd figure you could at least use the guy if you're going to pay him six figures. The corporate culture always sucked in wcw. Iron Sheik got an extra year because they forgot to fire him. Lanny stayed on his ass at home making six figures for three years, and I will never believe Bischoff when he says that he just took a hundred grand out of Randy’s salary to pay Lanny. Honky Tonk Man somehow managed to get paid for appearances for 6 months when not being booked by getting someone else to clock in for him before he got caught.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Apr 20, 2019 17:58:01 GMT -5
Good. AEW should pick some up for names but being a WWE recycling center would just bog the company down.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 20, 2019 18:03:25 GMT -5
The corporate culture always sucked in wcw. Iron Sheik got an extra year because they forgot to fire him. Lanny stayed on his ass at home making six figures for three years, and I will never believe Bischoff when he says that he just took a hundred grand out of Randy’s salary to pay Lanny. Honky Tonk Man somehow managed to get paid for appearances for 6 months when not being booked by getting someone else to clock in for him before he got caught. Reminds me of Heyman pretending to fly back to New York while having a place in Atlanta to stay, then using a series of tricks to have himself reimbursed for the plane tickets instead of the company when he'd cancel them. The scheme fell apart when he called JR, who had caller ID.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 20, 2019 18:33:16 GMT -5
Honky Tonk Man somehow managed to get paid for appearances for 6 months when not being booked by getting someone else to clock in for him before he got caught. Reminds me of Heyman pretending to fly back to New York while having a place in Atlanta to stay, then using a series of tricks to have himself reimbursed for the plane tickets instead of the company when he'd cancel them. The scheme fell apart when he called JR, who had caller ID> That’s why he hates Watts so much, because he caught the scam and fired him.
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Post by toodarkmark on Apr 20, 2019 18:54:01 GMT -5
Honky Tonk Man somehow managed to get paid for appearances for 6 months when not being booked by getting someone else to clock in for him before he got caught. Reminds me of Heyman pretending to fly back to New York while having a place in Atlanta to stay, then using a series of tricks to have himself reimbursed for the plane tickets instead of the company when he'd cancel them. The scheme fell apart when he called JR, who had caller ID. Such a hot scam. No wonder ECW ran for so long.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 19:53:42 GMT -5
Who was the last ex WWE guy they would turn their noses up at? Cass? Probably, Perkins? Hmm maybe.
Dillinger, Ambrose, Harper, KENTA surely all have roster spots waiting for them if they want to go there.
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Post by Prince Petty on Apr 20, 2019 20:35:37 GMT -5
"The guys we don't want will go to ROH."
It makes sense. They have a decent sized roster already, and haven't even run a live show or TV taping yet. The last thing they want is to bloat their roster with all the guys that the WWE was bloating their roster with.
So someone like Harper might get a shot, but the Ascension probably won't.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 21:00:06 GMT -5
A lot of really talented guys are misused in WWE though.
For example... I’d imagine guys like Breeze, Harper, Apollo and Ohno would excel in AEW. That’s not even counting guys like Tye, TJP, KENTA and Aries who I think would be big additions.
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Post by KofiMania on Apr 20, 2019 22:02:30 GMT -5
Who was the last ex WWE guy they would turn their noses up at? Cass? Probably, Perkins? Hmm maybe. Dillinger, Ambrose, Harper, KENTA surely all have roster spots waiting for them if they want to go there. Dillinger and probably Kenta should be no’s.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Apr 21, 2019 0:01:31 GMT -5
Even Sasha if she was humbled a bit and dropped the ego. Wrestlers have long been known for their humbleness and modesty, right?
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 21, 2019 13:48:35 GMT -5
Talent is talent: barring some extreme circumstances it really doesn't matter where that talent comes from, if you can utilize them in creative, interesting ways then there's no reason to constrict your available pool.
That said, Jericho's larger point is well-taken: just bringing someone in because "hey, they were in WWE!" isn't going to cut it, it has to be the right person for the right spot, story, situation, etc. Some names are just big enough stars that it makes sense to bring them in as the characters/personas they're best known for: for example, TNA wasn't wrong to do that with Christian Cage and Kurt Angle, and I don't think anyone could reasonably hold it against AEW if they did something like that with, say, Ambrose/Moxley or Sasha Banks, if she gets out of there. Other wrestlers might have been misused in WWE, or improved since being there, or have new or improved gimmick ideas in mind and just need a stage to showcase them: again, using TNA as an example, a lot of people loved Tomko's early work when he joined Christian there, and Bully Ray was a very successful gimmick change (though Aron Rex was an example of where they can go off the rails), and I'm sure there's any number of current WWE guys or gals who could make some positive changes in the right environment. Still others might just be the right wrestler for the right situation: like, maybe there's a great spot on your roster or a built-in feud ready for a technical wrestler, a brawler, a hardcore guy, etc., and you can avoid the "you just signed them because they were in WWE!" stigma because you can point to having a purpose in mind when signing them.
The difference is when you take just about anyone from WWE, have them walk out, and leave that as the big reveal for your audience without much more in the way of context. Again, maybe that would work with someone on Kurt Angle's level, but the old TNA trope of "we know who THAT is!" is not what AEW wants to be associated with, I'm sure. However, I'm really interested in how fluid AEW's roster might end up being; given how they appear to be allowing signed wrestlers to continue working for other promotions, I'm curious if they'll treat the whole independent contractor label much more seriously and maybe cycle some wrestlers in and out depending on need and availability.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Apr 22, 2019 3:56:04 GMT -5
I will believe it when I see it.
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Post by metylerca on Apr 22, 2019 18:47:34 GMT -5
Junior Fatu is not pleased.
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Post by lildude8218 on Apr 22, 2019 19:40:03 GMT -5
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