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Post by Welfare Willis on Apr 24, 2019 23:53:40 GMT -5
She's the best female talent they have, and one of the best they or any other company has ever had. Put her in all the f***ing title matches. Oh they already are! Then I am happy. Welcome to the board, Ric.
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Post by King Devitt on Apr 25, 2019 1:30:36 GMT -5
She's the best female talent they have, and one of the best they or any other company has ever had. Put her in all the f***ing title matches. Oh they already are! Then I am happy. *nods in agreement*
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 10:06:56 GMT -5
The crazy thing here is they didn't even need a Smackdown match at MITB. I get that they may want to end Becky Two Belts sooner than later but this is the PPV where there is literally a Macguffin that can do that for them. They could put Charlotte in the MITB match and it would make a lot of sense, then the winner could take out Becky and get the title. Honestly though, I'm having trouble thinking of a single time where Charlotte wasn't involved in a title match since she came back. She won the title and defended against Carmella, lost it to Becky, feuded with Becky, was in the Triple threat where Asuka won the title, then killed Asuka for her five day reign before WM. Before she was injured she was in a program with Carmella for the title. I like Charlotte. She is one of the best and does a great job and delivers but I need something different and they just got an influx of that on Smackdown. I wouldn't mind seeing Charlotte in the title picture eventually again but give it some breathing room. I've seen some say that Charlotte is the only opponent that makes sense on Smackdown and for that I blame booking. If every time there's a number one contender match or someone just announces they're the number one contender it's always the same person, then we get a clear message that no one else is worth your time. There have even been moments when the women's locker room as a whole, faces and heels have banded together in the face of Charlotte's endless matches. That's a great story hook there. Make Charlotte go to the back of the line, let that make her more unhinged. Say what you will about Ronda, one of the best things about her reign was that we saw a variety of challengers with few repetitions. It kept it fresh even if we knew she wasn't losing until WM. While I do agree Charlotte in the MITB match would make sense, there would still be people complaining about “ugh, here we go with title reign number 9.” It wouldn’t matter if she was in it or not because that would’ve arguably made the women’s ladder match predictable as hell. I personally feel they only used Charlotte/Carmella to get to Charlotte/Becky and to get the title on Becky. Basically, she was a transitional champ as she only held that belt for a month. With the Becky stuff, it made sense as she was the bitter friend who didn’t want to believe that Becky was a new person. Once she figured it out, she just wanted to kick her ass (and lost.) With the TLC match, Charlotte felt like whooping Ronda and the IICONICS ass with that cane was enough for her to beat lynch, but then came asuka. As for the Asuka match itself, it was implied by commentary that Vince handed her that opportunity for the belt to prove Becky wrong. And again, they were going to do that with Mandy/Sonya/Carmella/Naomi but no one would’ve gave a shit about either of them getting beat by Asuka lower down the card. And if they did, it would’ve been due to having fear of Asuka losing the belt when it came to Mandy and Mella, which is the opposite of how to get people engaged in a feud lol. Plus, it’s only been two weeks with this new crop of talent, give it time. I’m positive they’ll build them all up.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Apr 25, 2019 12:42:34 GMT -5
What if...
What if Charlotte doesn't win? I know, I know. All signs point to the "Becky beats Lacey, and falls to Charlotte due to being less than 100%", but what if that doesn't happen?
What if next week, we get another "Smackdown women rise up" segment where they come out and express their dissatisfaction with being overlooked for Becky vs Charlotte Part X? What if they then have another match to determine who "#3" in the match might be? What if that person wins the title? What if Charlotte beats that person?
What if Charlotte vs Becky goes first?
There's still a lot of scenarios that could make this interesting without ending off with "Charlotte wins trololol".
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Post by schma on Apr 25, 2019 13:19:49 GMT -5
The crazy thing here is they didn't even need a Smackdown match at MITB. I get that they may want to end Becky Two Belts sooner than later but this is the PPV where there is literally a Macguffin that can do that for them. They could put Charlotte in the MITB match and it would make a lot of sense, then the winner could take out Becky and get the title. Honestly though, I'm having trouble thinking of a single time where Charlotte wasn't involved in a title match since she came back. She won the title and defended against Carmella, lost it to Becky, feuded with Becky, was in the Triple threat where Asuka won the title, then killed Asuka for her five day reign before WM. Before she was injured she was in a program with Carmella for the title. I like Charlotte. She is one of the best and does a great job and delivers but I need something different and they just got an influx of that on Smackdown. I wouldn't mind seeing Charlotte in the title picture eventually again but give it some breathing room. I've seen some say that Charlotte is the only opponent that makes sense on Smackdown and for that I blame booking. If every time there's a number one contender match or someone just announces they're the number one contender it's always the same person, then we get a clear message that no one else is worth your time. There have even been moments when the women's locker room as a whole, faces and heels have banded together in the face of Charlotte's endless matches. That's a great story hook there. Make Charlotte go to the back of the line, let that make her more unhinged. Say what you will about Ronda, one of the best things about her reign was that we saw a variety of challengers with few repetitions. It kept it fresh even if we knew she wasn't losing until WM. While I do agree Charlotte in the MITB match would make sense, there would still be people complaining about “ugh, here we go with title reign number 9.” It wouldn’t matter if she was in it or not because that would’ve arguably made the women’s ladder match predictable as hell. I personally feel they only used Charlotte/Carmella to get to Charlotte/Becky and to get the title on Becky. Basically, she was a transitional champ as she only held that belt for a month. With the Becky stuff, it made sense as she was the bitter friend who didn’t want to believe that Becky was a new person. Once she figured it out, she just wanted to kick her ass (and lost.) With the TLC match, Charlotte felt like whooping Ronda and the IICONICS ass with that cane was enough for her to beat lynch, but then came asuka. As for the Asuka match itself, it was implied by commentary that Vince handed her that opportunity for the belt to prove Becky wrong. And again, they were going to do that with Mandy/Sonya/Carmella/Naomi but no one would’ve gave a shit about either of them getting beat by Asuka lower down the card. And if they did, it would’ve been due to having fear of Asuka losing the belt when it came to Mandy and Mella, which is the opposite of how to get people engaged in a feud lol. Plus, it’s only been two weeks with this new crop of talent, give it time. I’m positive they’ll build them all up.
It seems odd to give Charlotte a transition reign. Of those three Carmella would be who I think when I think transition. Now it worked out great for Becky in the end but I've been tired of Becky/Charlotte for something like four months now.
One thing though, when I said put Charlotte in the MITB match, I didn't mean have her win. Have her in the match, up its profile but have someone else win. One of the benefits of MITB is that the winner can be fairly unpredictable and doesn't have to be the biggest name.
As for the fourway, there might have been concerns but there were concerns for the triple threat, there were concerns for the Kofi match. People were convinced we would not see Becky, Seth and Kofi win. As far as people not caring that much, that falls squarely on booking. The Smackdown women's title was the hottest title in the company and then Asuka wins and to follow up they take her off tv for three weeks. She didn't even get a segment celebrating her first main roster title win. They did almost nothing to build the feud between the four ladies apart from Mandy's fluke win over Asuka. However, they could have built up that in a four person match Asuka may be bad ass but they can gang up on her and take her out of the equation. It's not like a one on one match. It still would have been better than Charlotte beating her in a random match five days before losing the title again.
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Post by Prince Petty on Apr 25, 2019 13:35:19 GMT -5
What if... What if Charlotte doesn't win? I know, I know. All signs point to the "Becky beats Lacey, and falls to Charlotte due to being less than 100%", but what if that doesn't happen? What if next week, we get another "Smackdown women rise up" segment where they come out and express their dissatisfaction with being overlooked for Becky vs Charlotte Part X? What if they then have another match to determine who "#3" in the match might be? What if that person wins the title? What if Charlotte beats that person? What if Charlotte vs Becky goes first? There's still a lot of scenarios that could make this interesting without ending off with "Charlotte wins trololol". Whether Charlotte wins or loses, a cash in by Bayley (having won the MITB match) immediately after would be a pretty big statement of her new outlook. I feel like Charlotte is at her most interesting right now as an entitled heel who just can't believe that everything isn't going her way. And Bayley immediately taking the title off Charlotte might be the kick start to reviving her popularity. There are quite a few upsides to the idea, and I can't really see any downsides other than Becky losing one of the belts too soon.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Apr 25, 2019 14:21:23 GMT -5
She found Batista's, Game Genie, from the mid-2000s that has the code for infinite title matches.
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Post by Hypnosis on Apr 25, 2019 15:15:14 GMT -5
She found Batista's, Game Genie, from the mid-2000s that has the code for infinite title matches. Charlotte:"GIMME WHAT I WANT!"
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 25, 2019 15:39:01 GMT -5
What if... What if Charlotte doesn't win? I know, I know. All signs point to the "Becky beats Lacey, and falls to Charlotte due to being less than 100%", but what if that doesn't happen? What if next week, we get another "Smackdown women rise up" segment where they come out and express their dissatisfaction with being overlooked for Becky vs Charlotte Part X? What if they then have another match to determine who "#3" in the match might be? What if that person wins the title? What if Charlotte beats that person? What if Charlotte vs Becky goes first? There's still a lot of scenarios that could make this interesting without ending off with "Charlotte wins trololol". Whether Charlotte wins or loses, a cash in by Bayley (having won the MITB match) immediately after would be a pretty big statement of her new outlook. I feel like Charlotte is at her most interesting right now as an entitled heel who just can't believe that everything isn't going her way. And Bayley immediately taking the title off Charlotte might be the kick start to reviving her popularity. There are quite a few upsides to the idea, and I can't really see any downsides other than Becky losing one of the belts too soon. I feel like Bayley should definitely win MITB and I say that as someone who has never been a fan of hers at all. With them seemingly trying to make her more serious now it could really lead to some very fresh and interesting storylines whether she cashes in on Becky or Charlotte. Knowing them though they'll probably just have Alexa win again and cash in on Becky after she's done with her second match. Even though it's been done before I guess at least Alexa against Becky would somewhat fresh since they haven't wrestled since Becky's had her new edgier gimmick. However it's still not really something I want to see mainly due to just being kind of tired of heel Alexa.
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Post by Hot Noodle Truck on Apr 25, 2019 15:43:29 GMT -5
I've got nothing against Charlotte but her booking is hot garbage. It gets old quick watching the same talent circle around the title scene. There's I don't even know how many women under contract but you don't get screen time or storylines unless you're going for the belt and it's just tiresome.
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Post by Jacy Derangement Syndrome on Apr 25, 2019 15:44:31 GMT -5
i rubbed a genie lamp and the genie came out and was like "dude what if charlotte got a title match"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 16:08:12 GMT -5
She found Batista's, Game Genie, from the mid-2000s that has the code for infinite title matches. Charlotte:"GIMME WHAT I WANT!"
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