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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 25, 2019 6:09:16 GMT -5
For comparison sake, Jonah Hill at one point faced this dilemma. He got into an argument with someone one day on the street, the F word slipped out of his mouth, and news media caught wind of it. Once the story broke, Jonah quickly apologized, said it was in the heat of the moment, promised never to do that again, and his career DIDN'T face any long-term damage because of it. How long ago was that, though? People, especially when expressing their feelings on social media or forums or what have you, are going to be a lot more strident in their desire to have a scalp taken now. Precisely because people didn't suffer permanent repercussions even in the recent past. I think most people know (and are varying levels of unhappy about) that this likely isn't a fireable offense under current WWE management. It doesn't mean they have to like that it's not.
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Post by Topher is Human on Apr 25, 2019 6:31:20 GMT -5
Well, she is from Adelaide. I want to be offended by this... but our city’s most prominent landmark are literally a pair of metal balls... so yeah. Our bad.
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Post by Perfect Timing on Apr 25, 2019 6:31:41 GMT -5
I'm more confused about her getting sad men hot under the collar for $15.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 25, 2019 6:39:02 GMT -5
How many 22 year olds do you hang around with? Because they're probably assholes. Most 22 year olds will be. Myself and Madlibs have both said that at age 22 we would say shit like this. Nobody is using it as an excuse, and I haven't read her apology but I am guessing she definitely isn't. Just making observations about why we're not holding it against her. How many 22 year old do I hang around with? None, but when I was around that age I did.. bit of an odd question. This is the word that was being screamed at me whilst I was getting the shit kicked out of me when I was 18. So while you might not hold it against her, I reserve my right to think she's a f***ing idiot. Okay let me reel this back, I muddied the waters a bit. The 22 year olds question was because I work with young people and 22 year olds are definitely not adults yet. They think they are, sure, but they definitely aren't. In fact I am pretty sure all age groups would say how little they knew when they were younger. Rhea may be legally an adult (although she is barely that in America) but she sure as shit ain't one yet. I was also bullied with the same word - I shouldn't try to control how you want to react to things like this, we all experience life differently even if we go through different things, so I'm sorry for fighting you on it. Think she is an idiot all you want!
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Apr 25, 2019 6:48:37 GMT -5
How many 22 year old do I hang around with? None, but when I was around that age I did.. bit of an odd question. This is the word that was being screamed at me whilst I was getting the shit kicked out of me when I was 18. So while you might not hold it against her, I reserve my right to think she's a f***ing idiot. Okay let me reel this back, I muddied the waters a bit. The 22 year olds question was because I work with young people and 22 year olds are definitely not adults yet. They think they are, sure, but they definitely aren't. In fact I am pretty sure all age groups would say how little they knew when they were younger. Rhea may be legally an adult (although she is barely that in America) but she sure as shit ain't one yet. I was also bullied with the same word - I shouldn't try to control how you want to react to things like this, we all experience life differently even if we go through different things, so I'm sorry for fighting you on it. Think she is an idiot all you want! Sorry if I was a bit defensive with my response, I'm a fan of hers so it's all just a bit disappointing really. I get what you mean about 22 year olds though, god knows I was a dumb 22 year old, I'm a dumb 30 year old now haha.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 25, 2019 6:49:13 GMT -5
I'm more confused about her getting sad men hot under the collar for $15. That was a bit puzzling, too. Is this for charity? Is it a side hustle? In either case, she should probably be asking for more money. My ex got more than that, and she wasn't on TV.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 25, 2019 6:53:16 GMT -5
Im more interested the in the fact I could have paid for her to insult.me in australian.
And none of you told.me about it
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Apr 25, 2019 6:54:51 GMT -5
I'm glad she apologized quickly. She knew she messed up and said what had to be said.
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Post by Perfect Timing on Apr 25, 2019 7:18:15 GMT -5
The Rhea Ripley Experience
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 25, 2019 7:19:58 GMT -5
Okay let me reel this back, I muddied the waters a bit. The 22 year olds question was because I work with young people and 22 year olds are definitely not adults yet. They think they are, sure, but they definitely aren't. In fact I am pretty sure all age groups would say how little they knew when they were younger. Rhea may be legally an adult (although she is barely that in America) but she sure as shit ain't one yet. I was also bullied with the same word - I shouldn't try to control how you want to react to things like this, we all experience life differently even if we go through different things, so I'm sorry for fighting you on it. Think she is an idiot all you want! Sorry if I was a bit defensive with my response, I'm a fan of hers so it's all just a bit disappointing really. I get what you mean about 22 year olds though, god knows I was a dumb 22 year old, I'm a dumb 30 year old now haha. No worries, man. I was a dumb 22 year old and am a dumb 30 year old too!
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Apr 25, 2019 7:25:18 GMT -5
Opening this thread I fully expected the bad word to be "Benoit".
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Apr 25, 2019 7:27:00 GMT -5
Well, she is from Adelaide. I'm pretty sure Adelaide doesn't exist and is just a joke being played on everyone else. How else could somewhere so boring exist?
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Post by Prince Petty on Apr 25, 2019 7:38:01 GMT -5
She said something dumb and offensive, and apologised. Unless it's part of a trend that indicates underlying views, I don't think it's something the WWE needs to get too worked up about.
I will admit that, when I was in my early 20s, my friends and I used "gay" as a generic term to describe anything or anyone annoying. We didn't intend it as a homophobic slur, but when I was challenged on it I realised that, regardless of intentions, it's better to avoid using terms that other people will consider offensive. Hopefully Rhea will learn this too.
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Post by KobashiChop on Apr 25, 2019 8:25:29 GMT -5
I'm more confused about her getting sad men hot under the collar for $15. Never underestimate what guys are willing to pay for on the internet.
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Post by A damn road sign on Apr 25, 2019 8:30:03 GMT -5
“I apologise to those who were offended” statements are such a cop out. How about just, you know, apologising for making a stupid decision to say an offensive word in the first place?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 8:32:15 GMT -5
I'm more confused about her getting sad men hot under the collar for $15. Never underestimate what guys are willing to pay for on the internet. She was selling herself (hrm) short.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Apr 25, 2019 8:39:22 GMT -5
So she was PAID to drop an insult? What a weird stream. I guess that kinda makes it a little more excusable than just dropping it casually since she probably just said the most offensive thing she could think of rather than it being something she'd say normally.
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Post by mistery on Apr 25, 2019 8:44:32 GMT -5
That money goes to Brennan Williams and Mansoor. It doesn't go to charity or anything. And Brennan nuked his twitch stream archives and twitter page after last night.
This isn't the first time they've gotten in trouble either, so I imagine they are either on very thin ice, or are going to fall through after last night. The first real notable incident I remember (although it didn't get much traction) was them bothering Adam Cole about his (and other workers) intimate lives.
They also tried to make Kairi Sane a fixture of the stream by reading erotic fanfiction of her on it (behind her back at that), although that ended fairly quickly because management came down on them for it. Because someone had a viewer request for that, and Mansoor said they weren't allowed to do it anymore because she found out and got really pissed off about it.
It feels like those streams are a great way to commit career suicide right now in WWE because it has no filter and it generally exposes the worst in people.
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Post by Prince Petty on Apr 25, 2019 9:07:00 GMT -5
That money goes to Brennan Williams and Mansoor. It doesn't go to charity or anything. And Brennan nuked his twitch stream archives and twitter page after last night. This isn't the first time they've gotten in trouble either, so I imagine they are either on very thin ice, or are going to fall through after last night. The first real notable incident I remember (although it didn't get much traction) was them bothering Adam Cole about his (and other workers) intimate lives. They also tried to make Kairi Sane a fixture of the stream by reading erotic fanfiction of her on it (behind her back at that), although that ended fairly quickly because management came down on them for it. Because someone had a viewer request for that, and Mansoor said they weren't allowed to do it anymore because she found out and got really pissed off about it. It feels like those streams are a great way to commit career suicide right now in WWE because it has no filter and it generally exposes the worst in people. I really like Brennan Williams on UUDD, but the more I learn about him, the more I'm kind of side-eyeing him. I've read that he's a bit of a 4chan-style shitposter, and his buddy, Mansoor, is a Trump fan. I haven't watched much of his Twitch, because I hate the Twitch format, and his streams don't seem interesting enough to persevere with it. Livestreaming is definitely a big risk, and one I expect the WWE to crack down on. Because if you accidentally say or do something, you can't edit it out. As you say, it can easily expose the worst in people, and when you're in a business where reputation really matters, it can be incredibly damaging. I watched one of Tyler Breeze's old streams the other day, which had Alexa and EC3 as guests for an impromptu Q&A. The questions were pretty respectful, although Alexa did decline to answer a couple (like who her least favourite opponent was), and I guess that's down to how Breezy runs his stream, and the viewers respecting the boundaries he sets. When done right, it can be a cool way of learning more about your favourite wrestlers, and seeing the backstage friendships they have. When done wrong, it ends up with people in risk of being fired.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Apr 25, 2019 9:12:58 GMT -5
About the only way this could've been handled any better is if it didn't happen in the first place. But it did, and it was probably the best possible way she could've handled it. It won't take any of the sting away from people who have been cut deep by the hatred behind that word, but if she holds true to her word, it can be the beginning of a healing process.
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