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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on May 12, 2019 0:29:53 GMT -5
The problem is, finding shows with bad last episodes that didn't have bad final seasons as a whole. Breaking Bad's last episode was some nonsense, but the whole season sucked except Ozymandias, so it's hard to focus on. Same deal with Homicide: Life on the Street, though the movie redeemed that some.
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Post by Milkman Norm on May 12, 2019 10:25:09 GMT -5
In fairness the problem that Craig Thomas & Carter Bays had in writing the HIMYM finale was that I don't think they expected their quirky little show to become a quasi hit. Due to the narrative device of Ted talking to his kids they had to shoot the finale scene of the show in the second so the kids still looked like kids. As the show kept getting renewed the writing & the characters all matured and became different people than they were in the early seasons. But then because the ending had been shot already they pretty much had to quickly devolve all the characters back to their season 2 selves. It came off as jarring and out of place.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on May 12, 2019 10:42:27 GMT -5
In fairness the problem that Craig Thomas & Carter Bays had in writing the HIMYM finale was that I don't think they expected their quirky little show to become a quasi hit. Due to the narrative device of Ted talking to his kids they had to shoot the finale scene of the show in the second so the kids still looked like kids. As the show kept getting renewed the writing & the characters all matured and became different people than they were in the early seasons. But then because the ending had been shot already they pretty much had to quickly devolve all the characters back to their season 2 selves. It came off as jarring and out of place. I think some stubbornness was involved too, I think they wanted to show people "look we had a plan all long", they could have simply not use the footage, they must have known the Ted/Robin storyline had run it's course long before the last season
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Post by Milkman Norm on May 12, 2019 10:49:28 GMT -5
In fairness the problem that Craig Thomas & Carter Bays had in writing the HIMYM finale was that I don't think they expected their quirky little show to become a quasi hit. Due to the narrative device of Ted talking to his kids they had to shoot the finale scene of the show in the second so the kids still looked like kids. As the show kept getting renewed the writing & the characters all matured and became different people than they were in the early seasons. But then because the ending had been shot already they pretty much had to quickly devolve all the characters back to their season 2 selves. It came off as jarring and out of place. I think some stubbornness was involved too, I think they wanted to show people "look we had a plan all long", they could have simply not use the footage, they must have known the Ted/Robin storyline had run it's course long before the last season That's clearly what they should have done but I think they were so locked into the "Robin is the one" thing that it blinded them from how off the finale was.
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Post by agent817 on May 12, 2019 11:34:46 GMT -5
When people mentioned Full House, there was also Family Matters. From what I understand, there was supposed to be one more season with Laura and Steve finally getting married, but then the sets were destroyed. I felt dissatisfied that it ended with Steve going to space.
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Post by Casey Jones on May 12, 2019 12:04:39 GMT -5
In fairness the problem that Craig Thomas & Carter Bays had in writing the HIMYM finale was that I don't think they expected their quirky little show to become a quasi hit. Due to the narrative device of Ted talking to his kids they had to shoot the finale scene of the show in the second so the kids still looked like kids. As the show kept getting renewed the writing & the characters all matured and became different people than they were in the early seasons. But then because the ending had been shot already they pretty much had to quickly devolve all the characters back to their season 2 selves. It came off as jarring and out of place. In all fairness. They didn't need to actually use the footage just because they shot it. I would have been happier if they ended it at the train tracks when Ted first meets the mother.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 12, 2019 12:35:40 GMT -5
Laverne & Shirley ends with an episode neither is in (Laverne's barely in it. Shirley, well, you already know). It was a Carmine episode/veiled spinoff pilot.
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Post by chronocross on May 12, 2019 16:45:40 GMT -5
Boardwalk Empire
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Post by nickcave on May 12, 2019 16:50:17 GMT -5
Seinfeld. I’d seen a dip in quality from series 7 onward, and knew that they all wound up in prison. However, the way it was done was just a bit flat, ending not with a bang but with a whimper. I get that Seinfeld was about the little things - a show about ‘nothing’ - but it just seemed a ‘meh’ way to finish such an iconic, influential show. Also the tone just feels off the whole episode, it feels like a completely different show.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on May 12, 2019 17:53:38 GMT -5
When people mentioned Full House, there was also Family Matters. From what I understand, there was supposed to be one more season with Laura and Steve finally getting married, but then the sets were destroyed. I felt dissatisfied that it ended with Steve going to space. Imagine someone just saw the first season of Family Matters and then read this post.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on May 12, 2019 18:31:52 GMT -5
(WW)ECW - What was the precursor to today’s NXT ended with Ezekiel Jackson beating fan favorite Christian only for the belt to be abandoned/forgot about almost immediately.
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Post by chrom on May 12, 2019 19:41:55 GMT -5
The thing about Seinfeld's finale, they have footage of the thief on tape the whole time, hell they even show it during the trial and the guy's face is shown with everyone seeing it and yet no one not even the police are concerned about it.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 22:49:50 GMT -5
Add Clone High to the list of brilliant shows ending on a cliffhanger.
I'm concerned about the series finale of the Simpsons. There's just no way for a finale to meet the expectations set by a show that's lasted 30 years and has that kind of a legacy.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 12, 2019 22:59:28 GMT -5
How Your Mother Died and I tried to Make It Work With Robin for the 83rd Time. Even though we made it abundantly clear through all the other seasons that we are completely incompatible people.
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Post by Casey Jones on May 12, 2019 23:51:55 GMT -5
How Your Mother Died and I tried to Make It Work With Robin for the 83rd Time. Even though we made it abundantly clear through all the other seasons that we are completely incompatible people. It seems the creators thought Robin and Ted were Ross and Rachel.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 12, 2019 23:54:21 GMT -5
Even though we made it abundantly clear through all the other seasons that we are completely incompatible people. It seems the creators thought Robin and Ted were Ross and Rachel. So do I, in that those people are also pretty bad for each other.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 0:08:37 GMT -5
I said this in the other thread earlier today.
I actually liked the HIMYM ending. I’ll agree a lot of season nine was shit. But I never believed in the Barney/Robin relationship (it felt as jarring as Rachel / Joey). I felt Barney’s characters ending was perfect. Yes Robin/Ted are toxic together (just like Ross/Rachel). But it’s still a hell of a lot better than Barney / Robin.
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Post by BorneAgain on May 13, 2019 0:51:35 GMT -5
Someone brought up Enterprise, but honestly TNG is the only Trek series that completely stuck the landing. All Good Things is a befitting finale, encapsulating the development of the characters, humanity's progression, and the eventual grudging respect between Q & Picard. It proved to be a better swan song for the Enterprise D than Generations and infinitely better a conclusion for the crew than Nemesis.
The rest of the series finales really vary on quality.
-Enterprise ends with a character being needlessly killed and pointlessly focusing on a TNG character rather than the actual crew.
-Voyager has a convoluted time travel plot basically existing as a plot device to get the crew home, nerf the Borg one last time, and emblematic of the series' wasted potential in not even showing the crew getting back to Earth.
-TOS finishes out the series with most sexist episode in the show's run, Shatner chewing every bit of scenery he can, and a plot that leaves the villain unpunished because the episode concludes she was a hysterical woman that couldn't control herself. Not exactly the stuff of optimistic futures.
-DS9 for the most part is fairly satisfying, tying up most of the loose ends and putting the characters in good places for their conclusion... all while having to close out the silly Dukat Pah'Wraiths arc which was already long in the tooth. The darkest and most multi-layered Trek series to date ends with an over the top supernatural fight like something out a cheap Indiana Jones knockoff.
When the wacky de-aging episode of the Animated Series is at the better end of Trek finales, then you know how its a franchise that struggles with conclusions.
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Post by Starshine on May 13, 2019 1:06:43 GMT -5
Yeah, that one kills me. You could really just say the whole last season. There was just so much they had to skip over to finish the story in their 8 episode window. Especially considering how good Season 4 was.
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Post by CMWaters on May 13, 2019 1:15:26 GMT -5
Someone brought up Enterprise, but honestly TNG is the only Trek series that completely stuck the landing. All Good Things is a befitting finale, encapsulating the development of the characters, humanity's progression, and the eventual grudging respect between Q & Picard. It proved to be a better swan song for the Enterprise D than Generations and infinitely better a conclusion for the crew than Nemesis. The rest of the series finales really vary on quality. -Enterprise ends with a character being needlessly killed and pointlessly focusing on a TNG character rather than the actual crew. -Voyager has a convoluted time travel plot basically existing as a plot device to get the crew home, nerf the Borg one last time, and emblematic of the series' wasted potential in not even showing the crew getting back to Earth. -TOS finishes out the series with most sexist episode in the show's run, Shatner chewing every bit of scenery he can, and a plot that leaves the villain unpunished because the episode concludes she was a hysterical woman that couldn't control herself. Not exactly the stuff of optimistic futures. -DS9 for the most part is fairly satisfying, tying up most of the loose ends and putting the characters in good places for their conclusion... all while having to close out the silly Dukat Pah'Wraiths arc which was already long in the tooth. The darkest and most multi-layered Trek series to date ends with an over the top supernatural fight like something out a cheap Indiana Jones knockoff. When the wacky de-aging episode of the Animated Series is at the better end of Trek finales, then you know how its a franchise that struggles with conclusions. To be fair to TOS, this was long before Trek became a major franchise, so expecting a proper conclusion episode would have been wrong at the time. Just count Star Trek VI as the true "series finale" as it were.
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