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Post by XIII on Jul 4, 2020 5:59:18 GMT -5
As a person with a a fair amount of native blood(my grandfather was full blooded) the name never really bothered me, but it has bothered some tribes for many years, so for them it should be changed.
I suppose that they’ll just change to the Warriors, which I find quite generic and lame. I’d much prefer that they keep the Red part of the name and go with something like RedHawks, Red Storm, or something of that nature.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jul 4, 2020 6:02:36 GMT -5
I read the initial report. As a Colts fan, you might or might not like my take. What is my take? Quite simply, some balls were probably deliberately under inflated but most were probably inflated to the minimum allowed amount and shrunk in the cold. I don’t even think Brady wanted it done as, if anything, it was more likely done to reduce the odds of the Patriots fumbling the ball. Under inflating the ball probably made Brady’s job harder. In other words, I think Brady should have been punished for going along with it.....for 2 games (1 for going along with it and 1 for destroying evidence). Brady was overpunished and Belichick was significantly underpunished. The Pats inflated the balls to the minimum or just above the minimum, and the balls naturally deflated. When the NFL got the data that proved what the Patriots were saying, they buried it. They buried it with a shovel, and buried the shovel. Right. You're telling me that either nobody saw the data, or despite the league having more leaks than the Titanic, everyone clammed up here? That's incredibly hard to believe. If the PSI data proved the league was right during deflategate, that info would have been out there in an instant, whether it was supposed to be made pubic or not.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jul 4, 2020 8:26:24 GMT -5
I read the initial report. As a Colts fan, you might or might not like my take. What is my take? Quite simply, some balls were probably deliberately under inflated but most were probably inflated to the minimum allowed amount and shrunk in the cold. I don’t even think Brady wanted it done as, if anything, it was more likely done to reduce the odds of the Patriots fumbling the ball. Under inflating the ball probably made Brady’s job harder. In other words, I think Brady should have been punished for going along with it.....for 2 games (1 for going along with it and 1 for destroying evidence). Brady was overpunished and Belichick was significantly underpunished. The Pats inflated the balls to the minimum or just above the minimum, and the balls naturally deflated. When the NFL got the data that proved what the Patriots were saying, they buried it. They buried it with a shovel, and buried the shovel. Again, some of those balls were under inflated below the limit before taken into the cold. Their pressure readings were too low by far for there to be any other explanation. The Patriots were not without guilt in Deflategate; they just weren’t as guilty as the narrative suggested. Don’t be fooled into thinking otherwise.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jul 4, 2020 13:46:35 GMT -5
My favorite take on the whole Redskins thing is people bitching about it and then saying they haven’t watched the NFL in years. So then why even bitch? How is this even affecting your life in anyway whatsoever?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 8:04:10 GMT -5
My favorite take on the whole Redskins thing is people bitching about it and then saying they haven’t watched the NFL in years. So then why even bitch? How is this even affecting your life in anyway whatsoever? People wanna bitch for the sake of bitching.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Jul 5, 2020 10:26:19 GMT -5
I always heard that a lot of Native American people don't mind team names, like the Indians, Braves, Seminoles, etc. They just don't like the stupid chants, tomahawk chops, and stereotypical logos.
But yeah, Redskins is a straight up slur, and should have never been used or changed a long time ago.
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Post by Mecca on Jul 6, 2020 8:58:18 GMT -5
My only issue with the name change of the Redskins is it leads to slippery slope stuff like there are people that want the Chiefs name changed, how is that an offensive name?
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jul 6, 2020 11:33:38 GMT -5
My only issue with the name change of the Redskins is it leads to slippery slope stuff like there are people that want the Chiefs name changed, how is that an offensive name? Something like a Chief or a Brave sounds respectful. Redskin is a straight up slur. I don’t doubt however somewhere in our lifetime there’s a large movement to remove any people being associated with mascots
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Post by Mecca on Jul 6, 2020 11:36:26 GMT -5
My only issue with the name change of the Redskins is it leads to slippery slope stuff like there are people that want the Chiefs name changed, how is that an offensive name? Something like a Chief or a Brave sounds respectful. Redskin is a straight up slur. I don’t doubt however somewhere in our lifetime there’s a large movement to remove any people being associated with mascots I understand that but it's already out there that if the Redskins change their name people are going to want the Blackhawks, Braves, Indians and Chiefs to follow suit.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jul 6, 2020 11:39:57 GMT -5
Something like a Chief or a Brave sounds respectful. Redskin is a straight up slur. I don’t doubt however somewhere in our lifetime there’s a large movement to remove any people being associated with mascots I understand that but it's already out there that if the Redskins change their name people are going to want the Blackhawks, Braves, Indians and Chiefs to follow suit. I’m sure, just as there’s been people petitioning for it for a while now. But the Redskins one has always kinda stood out as obviously offensive
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 6, 2020 12:16:50 GMT -5
I understand that but it's already out there that if the Redskins change their name people are going to want the Blackhawks, Braves, Indians and Chiefs to follow suit. I’m sure, just as there’s been people petitioning for it for a while now. But the Redskins one has always kinda stood out as obviously offensive And if enough people want to change the name of blackhawks, Indians, Chiefs etc then change the name It is only a name, nothing you need to pick a hill to die on. Indians already talking of changing their name for obvious reasons. Braves and Chiefs are more respectful but as said I wouldn't pick that hill to die on if the team decided to change it
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Post by Mecca on Jul 6, 2020 12:19:07 GMT -5
I’m sure, just as there’s been people petitioning for it for a while now. But the Redskins one has always kinda stood out as obviously offensive And if enough people want to change the name of blackhawks, Indians, Chiefs etc then change the name It is only a name, nothing you need to pick a hill to die on. Indians already talking of changing their name for obvious reasons. Braves and Chiefs are more respectful but as said I wouldn't pick that hill to die on if the team decided to change it Here in Kansas City we already got a big section of people basically saying they'll never buy tickets or support the team ever again if they change the name...you know midwest....
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 6, 2020 12:27:09 GMT -5
And if enough people want to change the name of blackhawks, Indians, Chiefs etc then change the name It is only a name, nothing you need to pick a hill to die on. Indians already talking of changing their name for obvious reasons. Braves and Chiefs are more respectful but as said I wouldn't pick that hill to die on if the team decided to change it Here in Kansas City we already got a big section of people basically saying they'll never buy tickets or support the team ever again if they change the name...you know midwest.... They say that but yet they will be the first in line to cheer on the team when they start winning. Sports fans are more fickle then wrestling fans
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Post by Mecca on Jul 6, 2020 12:37:42 GMT -5
Here in Kansas City we already got a big section of people basically saying they'll never buy tickets or support the team ever again if they change the name...you know midwest.... They say that but yet they will be the first in line to cheer on the team when they start winning. Sports fans are more fickle then wrestling fans I think you're right for the most part, everyone is so riled up about everything now around here.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jul 6, 2020 12:51:51 GMT -5
The Kansas City Big Chiefs and their mascot is Andy Reid with a footlong hotdog
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Post by Cyno on Jul 6, 2020 14:04:42 GMT -5
Patrick Mahomes has job security. 10 year extension signed with the Chiefs.
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Post by Cyno on Jul 6, 2020 14:06:53 GMT -5
Here in Kansas City we already got a big section of people basically saying they'll never buy tickets or support the team ever again if they change the name...you know midwest.... They say that but yet they will be the first in line to cheer on the team when they start winning. Sports fans are more fickle then wrestling fans Also the same kind of people who got really mad about Bomani Jones' Cleveland Caucasians t-shirt he wore one day. The concept of irony is lost on these folks.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Jul 6, 2020 14:10:08 GMT -5
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Post by Mecca on Jul 6, 2020 14:20:00 GMT -5
More Superbowls for the Chiefs have been guaranteed.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jul 6, 2020 14:39:26 GMT -5
Snyder is so stupid he’ll change the name to the DC Redskins
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