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Post by sfvega on Jul 7, 2020 2:11:50 GMT -5
Dude got Trout money. Good for him. For the longest, QBs deserved baseball money and would settle for less and make up the difference in endorsements. He is merely OK at best but I'm not doing this argument again. Good, because there's no statistical or logical basis to that argument.
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Post by bob on Jul 7, 2020 8:22:01 GMT -5
So...DeSean Jackson is f***ing crazy. ?
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Post by AwamoriRock on Jul 7, 2020 8:49:03 GMT -5
Did I just see the sentence Mahomes βis OK at bestβ
Lmfao for ages. Thatβs hilarious.
Anyway, the Chiefs are so good but letβs not forget they had to engineer a comeback against a team that outclassed them as a whole but just did not have the generational talent QB who could make every big play. Not taking away from them, but the gap between them and SF, Ravens(their offseason was impressive), and a last chance Saints run is not demonstrative. Iβd put all my money on them but not that comfortably.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jul 7, 2020 9:19:25 GMT -5
So...DeSean Jackson is f***ing crazy. ? Had a anti Semitic post on Twitter. Which was clearly only able to be taken as anti Semitic and he said it was taken the wrong way.
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Post by Mecca on Jul 7, 2020 9:57:46 GMT -5
The #Chiefs and QB Patrick Mahomes have agreed to terms on a 10-year extension worth $503 million, sources tell me and @tompelissero. He gets $477M in guarantee mechanisms and gives the ability for Mahomes to have outs if the guarantee mechanisms arenβt exercised. No trade clause F***ing WHAT?? Literally everybody, and I mean, EVERY. BODY. has been saying that the NFL's salary cap is about to take a significant hit in the years to come due to the financial ramifications that COVID-19 is going to have on the NFL in the short- and possibly long-term, and the Chiefs are out here throwing around $477 million in guaranteed money? ESPN's Adam Schefter estimated that the 2021 salary cap might be reduced by as much as 50 percent, down anywhere from $30 million to $80 million, and that the NFL is looking at an estimated loss in revenue of $3.2 billion if there are no fans in the stands in 2020, which is looking more and more likely with each passing day. Granted, the NFL coould just borrow against future projected earnings from broadcasting rights deals, but that's just robbing Peter to pay Paul. A time like this is literally the worst possible time to be hurling historically-high amounts of money at a player you didn't have to pay. Patrick Mahomes is obviously a great quarterback, but where's the "congratulations, you played yourself" gif when you need it? www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29419411/is-patrick-mahomes-500-million-contract-actually-team-friendly-answering-eight-questions-chiefs-qb-dealIt's actually not the deal you think it is....
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Post by BRV on Jul 7, 2020 10:46:53 GMT -5
A word of advice, if you're ever thinking about posting a quote, and it starts with "Hitler said," maybe don't.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 7, 2020 10:58:03 GMT -5
Mahomes is still guaranteed 6 years at $183 mill
That's 15% of the cap. He will not play out that full contract unless shit happens but he will be seeking another and higher deal in another 6 years
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Post by Mecca on Jul 7, 2020 11:04:43 GMT -5
Mahomes is still guaranteed 6 years at $183 mill That's 15% of the cap. He will not play out that full contract unless shit happens but he will be seeking another and higher deal in another 6 years Here is where the problem lies, all QB's are going to make bank, so would you rather have Mahomes at the 40-45 clip, Prescott at 37 or Teddy Bridgewater at almost 30? This is where we are headed...
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 7, 2020 11:09:41 GMT -5
Mahomes is still guaranteed 6 years at $183 mill That's 15% of the cap. He will not play out that full contract unless shit happens but he will be seeking another and higher deal in another 6 years Here is where the problem lies, all QB's are going to make bank, so would you rather have Mahomes at the 40-45 clip, Prescott at 37 or Teddy Bridgewater at almost 30? This is where we are headed... I'm not knocking them for getting paid, just that fans retain this pipe dream that a team will still be the same after the QB gets paid Shit gets difficult when you finally have to commit the cap space to the QB. It won't be felt now but in 2-3 years it will be if talent like Hill and Jones want their bag and KC isn't willing to committ. Sacrifices are going to have to be made
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Post by Mecca on Jul 7, 2020 11:10:49 GMT -5
Here is where the problem lies, all QB's are going to make bank, so would you rather have Mahomes at the 40-45 clip, Prescott at 37 or Teddy Bridgewater at almost 30? This is where we are headed... I'm not knocking them for getting paid, just that fans retain this pipe dream that a team will still be the same after the QB gets paid Shit gets difficult when you finally have to commit the cap space to the QB. It won't be felt now but in 2-3 years it will be if talent like Hill and Jones want their bag and KC isn't willing to committ. Sacrifices are going to have to be made They already paid Hill, and apparently they are attempting to get something done with Jones now.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 7, 2020 11:15:32 GMT -5
I'm not knocking them for getting paid, just that fans retain this pipe dream that a team will still be the same after the QB gets paid Shit gets difficult when you finally have to commit the cap space to the QB. It won't be felt now but in 2-3 years it will be if talent like Hill and Jones want their bag and KC isn't willing to committ. Sacrifices are going to have to be made They already paid Hill, and apparently they are attempting to get something done with Jones now. They paid Hill the start of last season. It was a 3 year deal. As I just it won't be felt now but it will be 2-3 years down the line when players want their bag. So Hill is content for at least this season but I can see his reps getting on the Chiefs back after next season saying he isn't going into his last year without a contract Jones has been threatening to sit if he don't get paid and after this Mahomes news, I doubt he is taking a cent less then what he is asking for. That's a potential casualty and one they may have to make because they have to start planning for the future and acquire draft picks to get cheap talent
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Post by Mecca on Jul 7, 2020 11:18:38 GMT -5
They already paid Hill, and apparently they are attempting to get something done with Jones now. They paid Hill the start of last season. It was a 3 year deal. As I just it won't be felt now but it will be 2-3 years down the line when players want their bag. So Hill is content for at least this season but I can see his reps getting on the Chiefs back after next season saying he isn't going into his last year without a contract Jones has been threatening to sit if he don't get paid and after this Mahomes news, I doubt he is taking a cent less then what he is asking for. That's a potential casualty and one they may have to make because they have to start planning for the future and acquire draft picks to get cheap talent To be fair in all of this, the Chiefs have been a very good drafting team in Reid's tenure. Mahomes is the franchise though they didn't have much choice here.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 7, 2020 11:28:03 GMT -5
They paid Hill the start of last season. It was a 3 year deal. As I just it won't be felt now but it will be 2-3 years down the line when players want their bag. So Hill is content for at least this season but I can see his reps getting on the Chiefs back after next season saying he isn't going into his last year without a contract Jones has been threatening to sit if he don't get paid and after this Mahomes news, I doubt he is taking a cent less then what he is asking for. That's a potential casualty and one they may have to make because they have to start planning for the future and acquire draft picks to get cheap talent To be fair in all of this, the Chiefs have been a very good drafting team in Reid's tenure. Mahomes is the franchise though they didn't have much choice here. They have but it is hard to draft like this at a consistent pace. Can they do it? Sure They have no choice. They knew this day was coming sooner then later. Luckily for them they was able to win a ring before they actually paid Mahomes so now you have the idea of a ring to entice some vets on cheaper deals while trying to draft young high end talent. This is where the difficulty will set in. Big expectations on top of having to justify a big contract. Teams have crumbled under this pressure but the Chiefs have a good shot of being the next dynasty
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Post by BRV on Jul 7, 2020 11:40:53 GMT -5
OK, let's take the first point and say he plays out the contract until the end of the 2025 season and then renegotiates. His cap hits for the following six seasons are as follows: 2020: $5.34 million 2021: $24.8 million 2022: $31.4 million 2023: $42.4 million 2024: $39.9 million 2025: $41.9 million The second point mentions that Mahomes it set to make 15.4 percent of the Chiefs' cap. That's adjusting for 5.3 percent cap inflation, which the league saw after 2019. But it's becoming crystal clear that the salary cap won't increase after 2020 and, in all likelihood, will plummet after 2020, down (as Adam Schefter reported) 50 percent. The salary cap probably isn't going to fully recover until 2024 when the television contract money starts landing, but by then, Mahomes will already have three years of this sword of damocles contract hanging over the Chiefs' cap.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 7, 2020 13:12:14 GMT -5
Dude got Trout money. Good for him. For the longest, QBs deserved baseball money and would settle for less and make up the difference in endorsements. He is merely OK at best but I'm not doing this argument again. Good, because there's no statistical or logical basis to that argument. There's plenty of factual basis for that argument. He is THE most overrated player in the league right now and one of the most overrated QBs of all time and the fluke SB run only serves to back that up.
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Post by Mecca on Jul 7, 2020 13:25:28 GMT -5
Dude got Trout money. Good for him. For the longest, QBs deserved baseball money and would settle for less and make up the difference in endorsements. Good, because there's no statistical or logical basis to that argument. There's plenty of factual basis for that argument. He is THE most overrated player in the league right now and one of the most overrated QBs of all time and the fluke SB run only serves to back that up. Are you a Raiders fan? There has to be something going on here as to what is making you think this way.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 7, 2020 13:32:35 GMT -5
There's plenty of factual basis for that argument. He is THE most overrated player in the league right now and one of the most overrated QBs of all time and the fluke SB run only serves to back that up. Are you a Raiders fan? There has to be something going on here as to what is making you think this way. Packers and the ability to actually look beyond empty stats.
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Post by Sicho100 on Jul 7, 2020 13:36:20 GMT -5
Are you a Raiders fan? There has to be something going on here as to what is making you think this way. Packers and the ability to actually look beyond empty stats. Mahomes replaced a solid NFL starting QB, and immediately turned in an historically great year, followed by a Super Bowl for a team that, with that solid starter predecessor, would consistently top out in the divisional round. This isnβt an argument.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 7, 2020 13:40:39 GMT -5
"Empty Stats"
That is such bullshit. Just stop
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Post by sfvega on Jul 7, 2020 13:49:53 GMT -5
Dude got Trout money. Good for him. For the longest, QBs deserved baseball money and would settle for less and make up the difference in endorsements. Good, because there's no statistical or logical basis to that argument. There's plenty of factual basis for that argument. He is THE most overrated player in the league right now and one of the most overrated QBs of all time and the fluke SB run only serves to back that up. That's pretty far from a fact. It's definitely an opinion. I mean, Dan Fouts and Warren Moon were also guys who played in very favorable systems and put up a bunch of "empty regular season stats" and they're HOFers who no one would call "ok at best."
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