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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 27, 2019 9:23:35 GMT -5
If he quit the SDL gig because he was tired of being on the road, is he just “Dogg” now? Domesticated Dogg. |
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on May 27, 2019 9:39:36 GMT -5
So, does the whole roster of NXT UK turn into tea-sipping, umbrella-twirling heels now?
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Post by Hypnosis on May 27, 2019 9:45:00 GMT -5
So, does the whole roster of NXT UK turn into tea-sipping, umbrella-twirling heels now? On regular NXT: "Io Shirai: Face of America" |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 10:24:36 GMT -5
I get that Road Dogg is a favorite punching bag and he did himself no favors with his Twitter stuff defending the booking, but Vince McMahon running interference on everything has got to be super-frustrating as a creative-type. Vince pretty much leaves NXT well enough alone, so if he's down there as a creative-type, we'll be able to better judge how many of the poor ideas on Smackdown were on him and how many were on Vince. We better get ready for that f***ing Ryker superpush. |
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Post by avenger on May 27, 2019 10:46:11 GMT -5
Fair enough but when his DERP face kept being posted every time there was something bad on SD it was pretty easy to draw the conclusion that he was the primary culprit. I'd say more so the primary target. It's easier for people to attack Road Dogg than Vince. It's the same as when people attack the writers and the wrestlers instead of Vince. Everybody's just in that same boat with this company as sad as that is. Random but after the AEW Moxley thing I saw a video of what Moxley did when the camera turned off. He flipped middle fingers, said "I can do this here!!", grabbed the cameras and played around, just having fun. Just bringing that up because that's some real freedom that he of all people got. Who knows how hard everyone who isn't Vince is being held down. Must be crazy because they'd never let someone who isn't Rock do that in WWE. So when it's bad, it's Vince, and when it's good, it's Not Vince. Got you. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 10:50:48 GMT -5
I'd say more so the primary target. It's easier for people to attack Road Dogg than Vince. It's the same as when people attack the writers and the wrestlers instead of Vince. Everybody's just in that same boat with this company as sad as that is. Random but after the AEW Moxley thing I saw a video of what Moxley did when the camera turned off. He flipped middle fingers, said "I can do this here!!", grabbed the cameras and played around, just having fun. Just bringing that up because that's some real freedom that he of all people got. Who knows how hard everyone who isn't Vince is being held down. Must be crazy because they'd never let someone who isn't Rock do that in WWE. So when it's bad, it's Vince, and when it's good, it's Not Vince. Got you. Can you find where I said "when it's good it's not Vince?" for me? |
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on May 27, 2019 10:52:14 GMT -5
If he quit the SDL gig because he was tired of being on the road, is he just “Dogg” now? Florida Dogg He’ll start managing Pitbull and they’ll 2019’s version of Jarrett and the Roadie. |
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Post by Juice on May 27, 2019 10:57:07 GMT -5
If Road Dogg didn't want to catch blame for the shit writing he helped turn in, then he shouldn't have tried to defend the Becky heel turn or literally say "Wins and Losses don't matter". You're a trash writer for life after you do that, I got no sympathy for him. Kissing company ass on social media is kinda required. Trash writer for life seems a bit harsh. |
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on May 27, 2019 11:39:28 GMT -5
Fair enough but when his DERP face kept being posted every time there was something bad on SD it was pretty easy to draw the conclusion that he was the primary culprit. I'd say more so the primary target. It's easier for people to attack Road Dogg than Vince. It's the same as when people attack the writers and the wrestlers instead of Vince. Everybody's just in that same boat with this company as sad as that is. Random but after the AEW Moxley thing I saw a video of what Moxley did when the camera turned off. He flipped middle fingers, said "I can do this here!!", grabbed the cameras and played around, just having fun. Just bringing that up because that's some real freedom that he of all people got. Who knows how hard everyone who isn't Vince is being held down. Must be crazy because they'd never let someone who isn't Rock do that in WWE. The past year or so has really been an interesting turnaround/breakpoint situation for the perception of creative. Ryan Ward got promoted to the main roster to write early Smackdown and people took it as proof all the other bad writers upstairs were always terrible. Then Smackdown started to get shitty and suddenly everyone insisted it was Road Dogg getting more in spite of every report it had been him and Ward doing the show from the start of the brand split and his only promotion was just to get a job title and make official what he was doing. It's really only after the Jimmy Jacobs firing, I think, that some people began to realize there was something else going on here. We had more firings, backstage drama, stories about writers being unhappy, writers getting canned, and situations like Dean walking away for what really did seem to be an issue of creative dissatisfaction over literally any other factor, and fresh off of the gas mask germophobe heel run nobody could really argue with that dissatisfaction. I think Road Dogg has become so entrenched as a person to blame because of what happened before all this and also just him being a real jackhat on twitter about it all, but people do seem to be realizing more and more that the buck doesn't just stop with Vince, the buck can become an entirely different form of currency five minutes before the show and if you don't have it in your wallet you're going to get fired. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 12:15:43 GMT -5
He should've said nothing to the fans tweeting him about Becky's heel turn. I get that sometimes hitting back at fans after being tweeted at constantly is hard to resist, but no good was going to come out of him responding.
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Post by Hit Girl on May 27, 2019 12:18:45 GMT -5
There's a way of responding to criticism in a constructive way like "we are trying our best but we welcome feedback etc..." or a more risque "we offer ideas, but we don't decide what goes on air" rather than a sycophantic defence of shit.
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Post by Prince Petty on May 27, 2019 12:32:35 GMT -5
So I guess we've got an opportunity now to find out whether it was Vince's interference that ruined Road Dogg's good ideas, or whether he's just not got a very creative mind. My hunch is that he's a guy who comes up with a lot of ideas, but I wouldn't put money on a lot of them being particularly modern or innovative.
Then again, wrestling doesn't have to be creatively innovative all the time. Sometimes the traditional ideas executed well are the best.
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Post by thegame415 on May 27, 2019 12:46:12 GMT -5
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Post by avenger on May 27, 2019 16:59:27 GMT -5
So when it's bad, it's Vince, and when it's good, it's Not Vince. Got you. Can you find where I said "when it's good it's not Vince?" for me? "Road Dogg was writing SDL with Ward during latter 2016 to early 2017 when it was at it's best. People somehow thought he jumped on later than that but nah, he was writing that great stuff we praised. The issue is Vince doing his stuff because the more hands on Vince got, the worse SDL became. People just say "Road Dogg screws things up" to deflect from Vince. " |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 17:13:07 GMT -5
Can you find where I said "when it's good it's not Vince?" for me? "Road Dogg was writing SDL with Ward during latter 2016 to early 2017 when it was at it's best. People somehow thought he jumped on later than that but nah, he was writing that great stuff we praised. The issue is Vince doing his stuff because the more hands on Vince got, the worse SDL became. People just say "Road Dogg screws things up" to deflect from Vince. " I said show me where I said "when it's good it's not Vince." You still haven't done that yet because I didn't say it nor do I believe that. The issue is you took that as me saying "everything Vince does is bad" when that doesn't mean that. I've given Vince numerous props for what Vince has done on this board. Next time don't try to claim I said something that I didn't say. It looks silly. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 17:14:38 GMT -5
I never knew about this. I should have called somebody.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on May 27, 2019 17:19:13 GMT -5
If Road Dogg didn't want to catch blame for the shit writing he helped turn in, then he shouldn't have tried to defend the Becky heel turn or literally say "Wins and Losses don't matter". You're a trash writer for life after you do that, I got no sympathy for him. Kissing company ass on social media is kinda required. Trash writer for life seems a bit harsh. No, once you start defending crap, you're linked to that crap forever. The dumbass excuses he made are enough. Road Dogg is a shit writer. |
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Post by segaz on May 28, 2019 7:01:44 GMT -5
If he quit the SDL gig because he was tired of being on the road, is he just “Dogg” now? Does the Road Dogg man become a Rail Dogg if he takes a train? |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 28, 2019 16:37:35 GMT -5
There's a way of responding to criticism in a constructive way like "we are trying our best but we welcome feedback etc..." or a more risque "we offer ideas, but we don't decide what goes on air" rather than a sycophantic defence of shit. But this is part of why he's an idiot. We all know he has his balls in a vice in Vince's office whenever he writes one of those tweets, so don't f***ing bother, they make everyone involved look worse. |
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Post by eJm on May 28, 2019 16:39:38 GMT -5
There's a way of responding to criticism in a constructive way like "we are trying our best but we welcome feedback etc..." or a more risque "we offer ideas, but we don't decide what goes on air" rather than a sycophantic defence of shit. But this is part of why he's an idiot. We all know he has his balls in a vice in Vince's office whenever he writes one of those tweets, so don't f***ing bother, they make everyone involved look worse. Yeah, like, there’s a reason why people frown on CEOs and people in power responding to stuff over Twitter and why that ain’t stuff you respond to. If you’re confident in your decisions, you shouldn’t need to justify yourself to every Tom, Dick and Harry on Twitter. |
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