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Post by chrom on Sept 21, 2019 13:21:40 GMT -5
Saw it yesterday and I loved it. It is on par with 1,2 and 4. It as gritty as Rambo 4 in some parts. The climax/final showdown is as brutal and awesome as Rambo 4 (heck, I´d say it was even more brutal). The finals showdown could have been a bit longer for my taste though. The movie takes it time to show how Rambo is finally having some sort of family and happiness. They develop the new characters in Rambo´s life and show the relationship between them. That really makes it more effective when the shit hits the fan and Rambo get´s pushed too far ("this time it´s REALLY personal"). That also means that there is a lot less action than in the last couple of Rambo movie. The action starts in the third act and it is very effective that way. THAT scene in the car ("the moment that pushed Rambo the most) really surprised me and made the third act more effective. Villans were scumbags like the bad guys from 4 (as I said, it is gritty). Sounds like the kind of film Rambo's meant to be
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Post by SkullTrauma on Sept 21, 2019 14:32:13 GMT -5
His opinion is irrelevant. His version of Rambo died in the book.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Sept 21, 2019 14:55:34 GMT -5
The good news for David Morrel is that no one associates him with Rambo anyway.
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Post by thechase on Sept 21, 2019 15:15:43 GMT -5
His opinion is irrelevant. His version of Rambo died in the book. He was still involved with the franchise after the book was adapted (and which did actually film an ending where Rambo did die) He novelised Part Two and III, was a consultant on those sequels and had even pitched a concept for the fifth one, Stallone actually liked it, it was the studios that demanded the sex trafficking angle seen in the finished product
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Sept 21, 2019 16:24:25 GMT -5
I've rolled my eyes at the critics whining about the depiction of the Cartels. If anything their even worse in real life. Yeah and I can't help but laugh at the critics who have accused this of being some sort of Trumpian propaganda piece against Mexico.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Sept 21, 2019 16:43:47 GMT -5
I remember when the last movie came out, and there was an uproar about Stallone exploiting the conflict in Burma. Which I always found amusing, as that movie provided more exposure and awareness to the conflict than anyone else's efforts combined.
If anyone has a physical copy of Rambo, I highly encourage you to listen to the director's commentary. Stallone and his movies are surprisingly deep and substantial. In it, he talks about the lead Karen rebel is in real life a Karen rebel. Stallone stated that the guy knew appearing in the movie would be a death sentence for him and his family, but it meant more to him to be in the movie, as it was the first time there had been any publicity about that conflict. Stallone lamented that he hadn't heard from that guy since the movie's release.
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Post by Jiren on Sept 21, 2019 16:52:02 GMT -5
I've rolled my eyes at the critics whining about the depiction of the Cartels. If anything their even worse in real life. Even Mexican people are replying with stuff like "This movie is tame compared to reality" when it comes to Cartels.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Sept 21, 2019 17:23:10 GMT -5
I've rolled my eyes at the critics whining about the depiction of the Cartels. If anything their even worse in real life. Even Mexican people are replying with stuff like "This movie is tame compared to reality" when it comes to Cartels. I doubt any film would be able to get away with showing how brutal the Cartels in real life.
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Post by Brickstone Kid on Sept 22, 2019 10:07:10 GMT -5
His opinion is irrelevant. His version of Rambo died in the book. He was still involved with the franchise after the book was adapted (and which did actually film an ending where Rambo did die) He novelised Part Two and III, was a consultant on those sequels and had even pitched a concept for the fifth one, Stallone actually liked it, it was the studios that demanded the sex trafficking angle seen in the finished product This isn't entirely accurate. The studio was wanting to do a new Rambo for so long they would have done it on the moon if that's what Sly wanted. Ultimately Sly makes all the creative decisions on these films.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Sept 22, 2019 11:58:44 GMT -5
Saw it yesterday and I loved it. It is on par with 1,2 and 4. It as gritty as Rambo 4 in some parts. The climax/final showdown is as brutal and awesome as Rambo 4 (heck, I´d say it was even more brutal). The finals showdown could have been a bit longer for my taste though. The movie takes it time to show how Rambo is finally having some sort of family and happiness. They develop the new characters in Rambo´s life and show the relationship between them. That really makes it more effective when the shit hits the fan and Rambo get´s pushed too far ("this time it´s REALLY personal"). That also means that there is a lot less action than in the last couple of Rambo movie. The action starts in the third act and it is very effective that way. THAT scene in the car ("the moment that pushed Rambo the most) really surprised me and made the third act more effective. Villans were scumbags like the bad guys from 4 (as I said, it is gritty). {Spoiler}When his niece died I felt so horrible for him. They could've went the obvious route and he saves her for the cliché reunion and she eventually goes on to college after healing physically and mentally. However, knowing it would provide a more emotional impact, she dies almost immediately after he saves her and desperately attempting to keep her awake was great acting. After she died I said "Oh no...…" You almost could hear a pin drop in the theatre. That was some hardcore tragic reality on display there.
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Post by Sephiroth on Sept 22, 2019 14:17:11 GMT -5
A Stallone movie getting bad reviews? No way!
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Sept 22, 2019 14:57:13 GMT -5
I never understood the complaints about the supposed "racist" nature of the film. Where were they when "Breaking Bad" and "Sons of Anarchy" were a thing in depicting cartels?
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Post by Jiren on Sept 22, 2019 16:46:22 GMT -5
I saw it tonight and I enjoyed it, For me I'd rank it as the weakest of the series but it's still good.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Sept 22, 2019 16:55:39 GMT -5
I enjoyed it.
Wasn't great but still enjoyed it.
Ridiculously violent.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Sept 23, 2019 12:38:14 GMT -5
Stallone talked about exploring the possibility of a Rambo prequel. Showing his Vietnam time. Not exactly sure I am on board with that seeing as the little hints and flashes we saw in "First Blood" worked brilliantly. {Spoiler}I'd like to imagine that seeing as John has nothing and no one left, he ventures off somewhere and lives the remainder of his life as a hermit not interacting with anyone until the end of his days. It's depressing but there's nothing left to explore.
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