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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jun 18, 2019 17:53:57 GMT -5
O All this talk makes me think of Mason Ryan...The dude was relatively young for wrestler standards and had the body of Batista...I am shocked he wasn't bigger then what he was... The WWE developmental system churned out a lot of guys like him, great bodies, but lacking the kind of spark that would make him a big name, very little IT factor or drive, kind of like the Powerplant guys in that respect. He found work outside of wrestling with the Cirque du Soleil and hasn't looked back, good for him.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jun 19, 2019 1:25:13 GMT -5
Eddie Kingston.
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Jun 19, 2019 21:11:25 GMT -5
Ethan HD
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Jun 19, 2019 22:32:31 GMT -5
David Starr, but, uh, that’s his gimmick.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Jun 21, 2019 0:49:55 GMT -5
I was just watching the May 31st episode of Impact and on commentary Don Callis says Willie Mack just signed a long-term deal with Impact. Not sure what that really means aside from he probably won't be in WWE or AEW anytime soon.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jun 21, 2019 16:34:03 GMT -5
Willie I doubt will ever goto WWE. Years back he got a developmental contract. Then showed up and got cut quick. Heard it was a health issue but never had that confirmed
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Post by bmfjules on Jun 22, 2019 11:10:53 GMT -5
Does The Rock have any contractual ties to WWE anymore?
Big longshot, but I'm assuming there's nothing legally stopping him from participating in the King of Trios as one of the Ant Men if he *wanted* to..
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 23, 2019 2:10:59 GMT -5
Does The Rock have any contractual ties to WWE anymore? Big longshot, but I'm assuming there's nothing legally stopping him from participating in the King of Trios as one of the Ant Men if he *wanted* to.. His film contracts very likely legally stop him from participating, especially after the injury scare he had last time he actually worked (Rowan "match" not included).
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jun 23, 2019 4:32:16 GMT -5
Does The Rock have any contractual ties to WWE anymore? Big longshot, but I'm assuming there's nothing legally stopping him from participating in the King of Trios as one of the Ant Men if he *wanted* to.. At the very least, WWE has some sort of license to sell his merchandise, so I imagine he's got a signed deal that would keep him out of any other wrestling organization.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jun 23, 2019 4:47:01 GMT -5
It's astonishing how few ex-WWE guys are still out there that seem to matter. give it a year or two, may be hundreds
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jun 23, 2019 7:31:20 GMT -5
Willie I doubt will ever goto WWE. Years back he got a developmental contract. Then showed up and got cut quick. Heard it was a health issue but never had that confirmed He failed the mental evaluation, I remember that coming out and there being a lot of concern over him after that.
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Post by jason1980s on Jun 23, 2019 8:27:27 GMT -5
I would say Brock Lesnar. He has no loyalty to anyone or any brand, only the next highest paycheck and whoever will give in to his needs of being able to do the least while receiving the most money. And even if he were under contract with WWE, I don't think Vince would touch a breach lawsuit because Vince WANTS Brock more than Brock needs Vince. Brock is Vince's 20-30 year dream come true. He is a legit backgrounded wrestler with a monster body and can sustain a push on the very top for years and years unlike Warrior or Luger.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jun 23, 2019 11:00:49 GMT -5
I would say Brock Lesnar. He has no loyalty to anyone or any brand, only the next highest paycheck and whoever will give in to his needs of being able to do the least while receiving the most money. And even if he were under contract with WWE, I don't think Vince would touch a breach lawsuit because Vince WANTS Brock more than Brock needs Vince. Brock is Vince's 20-30 year dream come true. He is a legit backgrounded wrestler with a monster body and can sustain a push on the very top for years and years unlike Warrior or Luger. When he went to NJPW, WWE shut that down real quick.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jun 23, 2019 11:01:47 GMT -5
Willie I doubt will ever goto WWE. Years back he got a developmental contract. Then showed up and got cut quick. Heard it was a health issue but never had that confirmed He failed the mental evaluation, I remember that coming out and there being a lot of concern over him after that. Any more details on this? Remember thinking dude seemed a little.... different on AOW, but haven’t heard he’s done anything that batshit outside the ring.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 23, 2019 11:54:48 GMT -5
I would say Brock Lesnar. He has no loyalty to anyone or any brand, only the next highest paycheck and whoever will give in to his needs of being able to do the least while receiving the most money. And even if he were under contract with WWE, I don't think Vince would touch a breach lawsuit because Vince WANTS Brock more than Brock needs Vince. Brock is Vince's 20-30 year dream come true. He is a legit backgrounded wrestler with a monster body and can sustain a push on the very top for years and years unlike Warrior or Luger. When he went to NJPW, WWE shut that down real quick. Not quite. They tried. He laughed it off and kept working. They filed injunctions and restraining orders and they were unsuccessful. The lawsuit came afterward, and the terms of the settlement have never been disclosed. But no, they weren't able to shut him down from working in Japan. He worked eight matches over there during a span of two years (seven for New Japan, one for Inoki). But Brock is NOT a legit free agent so he's not even part of this thread's discussion.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jun 23, 2019 12:00:31 GMT -5
When he went to NJPW, WWE shut that down real quick. Not quite. They tried. He laughed it off and kept working. They filed injunctions and restraining orders and they were unsuccessful. The lawsuit came afterward, and the terms of the settlement have never been disclosed. But no, they weren't able to shut him down from working in Japan. He worked eight matches over there during a span of two years (seven for New Japan, one for Inoki). But Brock is NOT a legit free agent so he's not even part of this thread's discussion. Had to look it up, and you’re absolutely correct. It’s interesting that it looks like NJPW ultimately said uncle and stripped him of the title given that up until that point all of WWE’s legal work seemed like screaming at the moon.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 23, 2019 12:08:36 GMT -5
Not quite. They tried. He laughed it off and kept working. They filed injunctions and restraining orders and they were unsuccessful. The lawsuit came afterward, and the terms of the settlement have never been disclosed. But no, they weren't able to shut him down from working in Japan. He worked eight matches over there during a span of two years (seven for New Japan, one for Inoki). But Brock is NOT a legit free agent so he's not even part of this thread's discussion. Had to look it up, and you’re absolutely correct. It’s interesting that it looks like NJPW ultimately said uncle and stripped him of the title given that up until that point all of WWE’s legal work seemed like screaming at the moon. They stripped him of the title because he went home with it and didn't give it back. He brought it with him to the Inoki show and lost it there to Kurt Angle, none of this with the authority of NJPW. New Japan and TNA then did a thing where Angle lost the belt to Nakamura in a unification match, bringing it "back" where it was supposed to be.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jun 23, 2019 12:55:49 GMT -5
Had to look it up, and you’re absolutely correct. It’s interesting that it looks like NJPW ultimately said uncle and stripped him of the title given that up until that point all of WWE’s legal work seemed like screaming at the moon. They stripped him of the title because he went home with it and didn't give it back. He brought it with him to the Inoki show and lost it there to Kurt Angle, none of this with the authority of NJPW. New Japan and TNA then did a thing where Angle lost the belt to Nakamura in a unification match, bringing it "back" where it was supposed to be. Lol in his book Brock said he kept the iwgp belt in his garage.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 23, 2019 13:07:17 GMT -5
I don't want to keep on the Lesnar track, because he is absolutely NOT what this thread is about, but it's amazing that the fact that he challenged WWE on the whole "independent contractor" thing and ESSENTIALLY WON, and no one remembers it. Hell, Del Rio did the same thing later on. It CAN be done. Those contracts are absolute bullshit and people are too scared to take the step to prove it.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jun 23, 2019 14:28:19 GMT -5
I don't know if Rock and WWE have any kind of agreement past maybe some merchandising agreement. They sell tons of Rock merchandise on WWEShop including merchandise featuring his likeness. Still, he has very little free time between acting and producing for TV and movies. Him being injured at WrestleMania led to delays in shooting Hercules, so it's less likely he has a real match any time soon.
Not exactly relevant, but Rock's daughter Simone has trained at the Performance Center. She's not signed and may not even be planning on a wrestling career, but she has trained there. I believe she is a student at NYU. Both her parents are powerful figures, so I'd say the world is her oyster.
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