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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jun 17, 2019 15:05:47 GMT -5
Couple days late, but I didn't know about this till now.
Being tone deaf doesn't make the world work.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jun 17, 2019 15:14:27 GMT -5
If she wants to take his iconography and use it towards good, then I say go for it.
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Post by toodarkmark on Jun 17, 2019 15:24:14 GMT -5
If she wants to take his iconography and use it towards good, then I say go for it. I agree. Her husband may have been homophobic, but here she is using that legacy to talk about acceptance. That seems like exactly the kind of thing you would want to see happen. Turning hate into acceptance.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jun 17, 2019 15:25:48 GMT -5
I approve of this. She's taking something that was used for hatred and is turning it around.
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Post by ANuclearError on Jun 17, 2019 15:27:05 GMT -5
If she wants to take his iconography and use it towards good, then I say go for it. I agree. Her husband may have been homophobic, but here she is using that legacy to talk about acceptance. That seems like exactly the kind of thing you would want to see happen. Turning hate into acceptance. I reckon that would work a hell of a lot better if she actively worked with an LGBT+ organisation to do so. The community themselves would need to have some sort of "ownership" (for lack of a better word) for this to work the it should.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jun 17, 2019 15:27:23 GMT -5
I think it’s a fantastic tweet. Good on her
EDIT: also thank god I avoid Twitter. It’s the worst place in the world. Nobody can say anything without getting crap for it. It’s a nice gesture during Pride Month and people are unacceptable of it unless she at the same time condemns the dead father of her children.
I friggen loathe twitter
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Post by Mama Rhodes Looking @ U Now on Jun 17, 2019 15:37:22 GMT -5
This thread irks me as a queer person, ngl. Dressing up as a massive homophobe for a pride photoshoot isn't reclaiming anything, it's just being really dense and tone deaf. It means literally nothing.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 17, 2019 15:45:45 GMT -5
This thread irks me as a queer person, ngl. Dressing up as a massive homophobe for a pride photoshoot isn't reclaiming anything, it's just being really dense and tone deaf. It means literally nothing. Not to this LGBT member, it doesn't.
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Post by Nickybojelais on Jun 17, 2019 15:46:39 GMT -5
This thread irks me as a queer person, ngl. Dressing up as a massive homophobe for a pride photoshoot isn't reclaiming anything, it's just being really dense and tone deaf. It means literally nothing. It's also hard to accept the spontaneity and heartfelt nature of such messages by WWE employees after Stephanie McMahon's infamous and ill judged "philanthropy is the future of marketing" line.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 15:48:38 GMT -5
Just curious, Did Mr. Warrior ever apologize and or try to make amends for any of the stuff he said?
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 17, 2019 15:50:18 GMT -5
Just curious, Did Mr. Warrior ever apologize and or try to make amends for any of the stuff he said? If he did, it would have probably been incomprehensible anyway.
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Post by Venti on Jun 17, 2019 15:51:50 GMT -5
I think it’s a fantastic tweet. Good on her EDIT: also thank god I avoid Twitter. It’s the worst place in the world. Nobody can say anything without getting crap for it. It’s a nice gesture during Pride Month and people are unacceptable of it unless she at the same time condemns the dead father of her children. I friggen loathe twitter Best to avoid the reddit thread on this, too, then. As a queer person, who obviously doesn't speak for all other LGBTQ people, I really don't want to judge a lady I literally do not know at all because of things her deceased husband said years ago(which I obviously don't agree with)
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jun 17, 2019 15:57:14 GMT -5
someone else LGBT here (not that it makes my opinion any more important)
Thing is with Warrior, they are celebrating him with the Warrior award, besides the homophobic comments, he referred to Droz as the cripple, wished death on Bobby Heenan, after his cancer diagnosis (and thats ignoring comments about Hurricane Katrina victims as well as commenting on Heath Ledger's death), guy was infamously a POS for years.
But It's like a lot of WWE decisions, sometimes you just have to let it go over your head, maybe roll your eyes about it or maybe take "pride" in Dana celebrating and issuing his image in something he would have hated
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Post by Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks on Jun 17, 2019 16:12:14 GMT -5
This thread irks me as a queer person, ngl. Dressing up as a massive homophobe for a pride photoshoot isn't reclaiming anything, it's just being really dense and tone deaf. It means literally nothing. Pretty much how I'm feeling. I'm not doubting the sincerity of Dana's gesture, but it would have been better without invoking Warrior's image. It's always a delicate and divisive subject whenever there's an effort to "take back" something associated with prejudice (language, iconography, etc.) It can be done, and in some cases it's been done very well, but it needs to be handled gradually and with sensitivity. You can't just clown-hammer it into existence, though I guess that's WWE's PR approach to pretty much everything.
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Post by thirteen3 on Jun 17, 2019 16:12:24 GMT -5
Well, It's been rumored that their marriage was kinda falling apart by the end. Mostly due to financial trouble, one of the reasons why Warrior got back in good graces with the company in the first place.
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Post by avenger on Jun 17, 2019 16:19:15 GMT -5
As another member of the LGBTQIA community, his views then, aren't necessarily her views now, but to wear his facepaint is tone deaf.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jun 17, 2019 16:25:07 GMT -5
It might be absolutely tone deaf but it might also be calculated on her behalf to sorta fix the idiocy he spread. If you look at a checklist of the dumb shit he said, she's used the Warrior Award to honor "cripples" and now this to show she doesn't support his views on "queerin".
Could be coincidence, but maybe it could be her trying to make shit right with the only tool really available to her, his iconography.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 16:26:03 GMT -5
As a straight person I don't have any say as to how LBGT members view this. When I saw it it reminds me of me and other blacks saying "that word." Yeah it has a history of power but we took it and turned it around (or at least tried to). We use it in a positive light. Judging her comments I hope that's what she was trying to do rather than being tone deaf. She can't afford any more negativity.
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Post by Tiiulicious on Jun 17, 2019 16:40:22 GMT -5
Warrior died in 2014 and there was video of him saying vile things as late as in 2006. Before his death, he never apologized for any of the absolutely vile things he said about the LGBTQ community, so Dana using his iconography is tone-deaf, no matter how you splice it. It doesn't come across as sincere and it's wholly unnecessary on her part. Tweet the same thing without Warrior paint, nothing wrong with it. Using the image of a known homophobe however is shitty and unnecessary.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Jun 17, 2019 16:46:22 GMT -5
She once said that he was very much a changed man at the end and that the guy who talked about "cripples" and how "queering doesn't make the world work" was not the guy who was there those last few days of his life. We'll never truly know, but I'd like to think it's at least in part true. Regardless, good on her.
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