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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Jun 23, 2019 21:30:25 GMT -5
I know it takes two to tango, but that match not working wasn't on Kofi it was on creative making Dolph generic heel #1987 and nobody or there mama by Dolph as a threat.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 21:31:53 GMT -5
That match was on whoever decided a cage match consisting of 20 minutes of playing with each other's ankles was a good idea.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Jun 23, 2019 21:34:16 GMT -5
That match was on whoever decided a cage match consisting of 20 minutes of playing with each other's ankles was a good idea. Yep. It should've been balls to the wall like older Kofi/Dolph matches, but nope. Got to have those 25 rest spots.
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Post by RI Richmark on Jun 23, 2019 21:37:20 GMT -5
Great finish though
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jun 23, 2019 21:40:09 GMT -5
You see that look on Dean Malenko's face? That's the look of sweet relief that he didn't produce this match. Or it could be the look he makes when he's hungry. He doesn't have that many expressions...
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Post by theironyuppie on Jun 23, 2019 21:51:00 GMT -5
You see that look on Dean Malenko's face? That's the look of sweet relief that he didn't produce this match. Or it could be the look he makes when he's hungry. He doesn't have that many expressions... The 1000 holds make up for it though.
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Post by Sparkybob on Jun 23, 2019 21:52:05 GMT -5
Cage matches are pretty tough to make work unless you think both guys really want to destroy each other.
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Post by Venti on Jun 23, 2019 22:03:40 GMT -5
Cage matches are pretty tough to make work unless you think both guys really want to destroy each other. That's my thing, this rivalry has like no heat or energy behind it. When I think of great WWE cage matches, I think Bret/Owen, Rock/HHH on Raw, Austin/Vince. What I'm getting at is cage matches should be saved for feuds with lots of heat and emotion behind them. This rivalry feels so manufactured.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 22:03:43 GMT -5
How about more ten minute sprints and less twenty minute slogs?
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Post by cabbageboy on Jun 23, 2019 22:09:56 GMT -5
In Saudi Arabia they did the 10 minute slog though. What's scary is they have 3 weeks until the next PPV so they might as well bite the bullet and put these guys in some other stip match to blow it off for good, since Kofi really just won by lunging out of a cage.
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Post by romanstylesiii on Jun 23, 2019 22:10:44 GMT -5
I know it takes two to tango, but that match not working wasn't on Kofi it was on creative making Dolph generic heel #1987 and nobody or there mama by Dolph as a threat. That is every heel on the roster except for Daniel Bryan
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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Jun 23, 2019 22:22:36 GMT -5
This Dolph Ziggler run is absolutely baffling to me even as someone that's like long stopped expecting WWE to do things that make sense.
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Post by Wardlow on Wardlow 54 on Jun 23, 2019 22:26:32 GMT -5
As soon as commentary said that the cage would limit Kofi's offense, I knew we in for a long night lol like, Kofi is known for high flying stuff, maybe, oh, I don't know... INCORPORATE THE CAGE INTO THAT?? Just a thought.
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Post by Dean-o on Jun 23, 2019 22:27:37 GMT -5
Cage matches are pretty tough to make work unless you think both guys really want to destroy each other. Not to mention, (me if i’m wrong) wasn’t the whole point of the cage so the FACES couldn’t interfere?
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Post by HisRoyalGreeness on Jun 23, 2019 23:29:01 GMT -5
You see that look on Dean Malenko's face? That's the look of sweet relief that he didn't produce this match. Or it could be the look he makes when he's hungry. He doesn't have that many expressions... That’s also the look he has when he’s riding a rollercoaster or playing a game of backgammon.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jun 23, 2019 23:35:29 GMT -5
How is this even hard?! Just have them both bump around for one another like maniacs and everyone has a great time! Why won't they just do that?
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jun 23, 2019 23:38:41 GMT -5
I know it takes two to tango, but that match not working wasn't on Kofi it was on creative making Dolph generic heel #1987 and nobody or there mama by Dolph as a threat. That is every heel on the roster except for Daniel Bryan Yeah and that's one of the biggest problems choking out the company today.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 24, 2019 2:31:37 GMT -5
The feud is heatless, Dolph is stale as shit and cage matches have been a joke in WWE for years already. This was basically always going to blow.
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Post by spagett on Jun 24, 2019 2:41:15 GMT -5
Dolph Ziggler reminds me of like Greg Valentine in 1991.
A guy who was over at one point, but was now stale and incredibly not over but just kept hanging around. Nobody cares.
Having Dolph Ziggler challenge for the WWE title on PPV is like having Greg Valentine challenging for the title in 1992.
It's just absurd.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jun 24, 2019 3:12:34 GMT -5
Dolph Ziggler reminds me of like Greg Valentine in 1991. A guy who was over at one point, but was now stale and incredibly not over but just kept hanging around. Nobody cares. Having Dolph Ziggler challenge for the WWE title on PPV is like having Greg Valentine challenging for the title in 1992. It's just absurd. Yet they wonder why Ticket sales was so bad going in. Both of your top title matches you had challengers nobody gives a crap about. 2019 nobody cares about Dolph Ziggler who been stale and uninteresting for almost 5 years now. Than you book a cage match and have it become rest hold city so that doesn't make me want to buy the next PPV. The other title match you have Barron Corbin as the challenger. As someone who finds the guy a channel changer on Raw, who would I pay to see a show MEed by Corbin? The bad thing is the ME heel picture is so bad now. Your better heels are now in tag matches and unused, that or in a mid card feuds and losing.
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