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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 0:35:16 GMT -5
So for the last month or so Impact has featured RVD, Sabu, Tommy Dreamer, Sandman, and Little Guido.
Why are they doing this? I loved ECW in the 90's and I even dug the ECW nostalgia in 2004-2006. But no one gave a shit when Impact tried ECW nostalgia in 2010. Why is anyone supposed to give a shit nearly a decade after that.
It sucks because I was really digging Impact's show but this stuff is slogging it down for me.
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Post by chrom on Jun 25, 2019 2:12:48 GMT -5
Its the only thing that they know how to do
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jun 25, 2019 2:27:43 GMT -5
it's been more than twice as long since ECW on Sci-Fi as been off the air than between the closure between ECW and it's first reunion show.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 2:51:03 GMT -5
are they trying to show TV execs they have "star power"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 9:52:56 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm not against a wrestling company booking wrestlers. Guido can still go. RVD is still a draw, and also more than physically capable. Dreamer is a good hand, is a positive influence in the locker room, and has been active on the indie scene the past several years as a mentor to a lot of the current generation. I think Sabu used in the right way (very limited role) is an attraction in pro wrestling. All these guys had runs in WWE after ECW. Yes, they also wrestled for ECW previously. But WWE booking Samoa Joe in 2019 isn't just doing "ROH nostalgia." He's had a career since then. Same with RVD. Sandman though, is nothing but nostalgia at this point. Can't really defend that one.
In the current wrestling landscape, with AEW just popping up, ROH signing guys to exclusive deals, MLW having a TV show, too, and WWE signing guys up for the sake of sending them to the Performance Center so that other companies can't get them, I can't fault Impact for booking guys who have some name value to wrestling fans watching TV. These are guys who have worked with Impact for several years, they have a good relationship with them, they feel they can count on them, etc. Nothing wrong with it. I mean, Impact could just have a roster entirely comprised of green indie guys, or they could have a mix. I prefer a mix, especially for a TV show. If it was my show, and I had the ability to feature Rob Van Dam along with the current younger generation of talent, I'm making the most of that opportunity. The younger guys can also learn from working with a solid ring vet like Guido.
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Post by markymark on Jun 25, 2019 10:08:45 GMT -5
So for the last month or so Impact has featured RVD, Sabu, Tommy Dreamer, Sandman, and Little Guido. Why are they doing this? I loved ECW in the 90's and I even dug the ECW nostalgia in 2004-2006. But no one gave a shit when Impact tried ECW nostalgia in 2010. Why is anyone supposed to give a shit nearly a decade after that. It sucks because I was really digging Impact's show but this stuff is slogging it down for me. Guido was only on A Night you cant mist(Impact+ show) and Critical Destruction twitch show, not on the main show.
Sandman put over Kross and he is gone.
Sabu is PPA
Dreamers case though, he is pretty much like Bully Ray in ROH(wrestler and also part of creative team) but with the difference is that he doesnt make storylines about himself and doesnt threaten fans backstage lol.
RVD is probably to help the brand with star power, if we look by the recent attendance, A Night you cant mist did better attendance than the Philly and NY tapings, that proves Mutah still puts butts in seats in 2019.
I dont blame Impact for not finding any other veteran available to put over the young talent unless you want MVP, Chavo Guerrero, Ryback on the roster?
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Post by cabbageboy on Jun 25, 2019 11:10:13 GMT -5
The RVD thing is sad since he actually was a major WWE star in his own right and shouldn't need to do ECW nostalgia tours.
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Post by nickcave on Jun 25, 2019 11:58:02 GMT -5
The RVD thing is sad since he actually was a major WWE star in his own right and shouldn't need to do ECW nostalgia tours. I don't think he really *needs* to do this per say. I think he could be back in WWE tomorrow if that's what he wanted to do. I think Impact just offered him a ton of money and he doesn't have to work many dates. Doesn't sound like a bad deal to me.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jun 25, 2019 12:16:54 GMT -5
The RVD thing is sad since he actually was a major WWE star in his own right and shouldn't need to do ECW nostalgia tours. I don't think he really *needs* to do this per say. I think he could be back in WWE tomorrow if that's what he wanted to do. I think Impact just offered him a ton of money and he doesn't have to work many dates. Doesn't sound like a bad deal to me. He canāt. Apparently he admitted in his divorce proceedings that he has a diminishing eye sight and couldnāt pass a wwe physical. Heās not on impact because he wants to, itās because he needs it, the divorce kicked his ass.
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Post by nickcave on Jun 25, 2019 12:38:55 GMT -5
I don't think he really *needs* to do this per say. I think he could be back in WWE tomorrow if that's what he wanted to do. I think Impact just offered him a ton of money and he doesn't have to work many dates. Doesn't sound like a bad deal to me. He canāt. Apparently he admitted in his divorce proceedings that he has a diminishing eye sight and couldnāt pass a wwe physical. Heās not on impact because he wants to, itās because he needs it, the divorce kicked his ass. I did not realize, in my mind he was only in WWE a couple years ago but 2014 is quite awhile to be gone.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 13:13:53 GMT -5
So for the last month or so Impact has featured RVD, Sabu, Tommy Dreamer, Sandman, and Little Guido. Why are they doing this? I loved ECW in the 90's and I even dug the ECW nostalgia in 2004-2006. But no one gave a shit when Impact tried ECW nostalgia in 2010. Why is anyone supposed to give a shit nearly a decade after that. It sucks because I was really digging Impact's show but this stuff is slogging it down for me. Guido was only on A Night you cant mist(Impact+ show) and Critical Destruction twitch show, not on the main show. Sandman put over Kross and he is gone. Sabu is PPA Dreamers case though, he is pretty much like Bully Ray in ROH(wrestler and also part of creative team) but with the difference is that he doesnt make storylines about himself and doesnt threaten fans backstage lol. RVD is probably to help the brand with star power, if we look by the recent attendance, A Night you cant mist did better attendance than the Philly and NY tapings, that proves Mutah still puts butts in seats in 2019. I dont blame Impact for not finding any other veteran available to put over the young talent unless you want MVP, Chavo Guerrero, Ryback on the roster?
Having ONE ECW vet is fine, and I understand the reasoning behind it. They don't need five. And you can try to justify them however you want but it's still 5 ECW guys on Impact in the span of a few weeks in 2019.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson š„ on Jun 25, 2019 13:14:33 GMT -5
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 25, 2019 16:58:53 GMT -5
Impact is an indie with a TV deal now. Indies book old guys to draw and pop the crowd. It's all good.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jun 25, 2019 17:19:16 GMT -5
So was Dreamerās AEW appearance a one-time deal then?
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Post by Dub H on Jun 25, 2019 17:35:59 GMT -5
Guido was only on A Night you cant mist(Impact+ show) and Critical Destruction twitch show, not on the main show. Sandman put over Kross and he is gone. Sabu is PPA Dreamers case though, he is pretty much like Bully Ray in ROH(wrestler and also part of creative team) but with the difference is that he doesnt make storylines about himself and doesnt threaten fans backstage lol. RVD is probably to help the brand with star power, if we look by the recent attendance, A Night you cant mist did better attendance than the Philly and NY tapings, that proves Mutah still puts butts in seats in 2019. I dont blame Impact for not finding any other veteran available to put over the young talent unless you want MVP, Chavo Guerrero, Ryback on the roster?
Having ONE ECW vet is fine, and I understand the reasoning behind it. They don't need five. And you can try to justify them however you want but it's still 5 ECW guys on Impact in the span of a few weeks in 2019. What,not 5,how many you suggest? 3?!
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Post by abjordans on Jun 25, 2019 18:21:08 GMT -5
At least as far as RVD, he could probably work for any wrestling company in the world right now still to this day if he wanted. He is a big star and still brings something to the table, he is good for them to have.
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Post by timelimitdraw on Jun 25, 2019 18:24:28 GMT -5
So was Dreamerās AEW appearance a one-time deal then? Dreamer is so well respected that he's probably the only guy in the business who can work everywhere at the same time and nobody would have a problem with it.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jun 25, 2019 18:28:18 GMT -5
How is Guido nowadays?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 25, 2019 18:40:12 GMT -5
it's been more than twice as long since ECW on Sci-Fi as been off the air than between the closure between ECW and it's first reunion show. And TNA/Impact has existed as long as ECW, its predecessors Tri-State and Eastern Wrestling, and WWECW combined.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 25, 2019 19:57:01 GMT -5
I am not a fan of it, really, but I get it, and it makes sense from a business perspective. I am most just wary of RVD's interest in putting people over. We at least know the others will do it.
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