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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Oct 17, 2019 8:22:39 GMT -5
Buddy Hield is negotiating his contract through the media. He’s a big part of the Kings, but he is absolutely not a max player. If that’s what he demands, you trade him. Especially with a Fox for-sure max on the horizon, and probably Bagley too.
I’d give him like 4/90-95. Bigger than Barnes, but not a max.
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Post by Rican on Oct 17, 2019 9:02:44 GMT -5
The Spurs finally won a preseason game! And it was against Houston! And Dejounte Murray looks awesome! I'm so excited to watch him this season.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 17, 2019 10:01:09 GMT -5
Buddy Hield is negotiating his contract through the media. He’s a big part of the Kings, but he is absolutely not a max player. If that’s what he demands, you trade him. Especially with a Fox for-sure max on the horizon, and probably Bagley too. I’d give him like 4/90-95. Bigger than Barnes, but not a max. Hield doesn’t want a max, he’s just weighing his options but he said he would like to stay
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 17, 2019 10:03:11 GMT -5
Beal signs a 2 year max deal with Wiz. 2 for $72 million
Interesting. My first assumption is, he’s gearing up to team with somebody because he could easily got a max deal this upcoming summer in a “weak” free agent class
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 17, 2019 10:15:11 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2019 10:29:20 GMT -5
We straight up bombed on the warriors ...yes it is pre-season but still we lookin SO GOOD GAWD DAMN
Clippers yall aint ready gonna make sure you reminded you the wannabe baby lakers come opening night
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 17, 2019 11:27:21 GMT -5
Jaylen Brown also has said to turned down a 4 year $80 million deal from the Celtics
He's willing to bet on himself as he wants a max contract
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Oct 17, 2019 12:12:02 GMT -5
Buddy Hield is negotiating his contract through the media. He’s a big part of the Kings, but he is absolutely not a max player. If that’s what he demands, you trade him. Especially with a Fox for-sure max on the horizon, and probably Bagley too. I’d give him like 4/90-95. Bigger than Barnes, but not a max. Hield doesn’t want a max, he’s just weighing his options but he said he would like to stay He’s wants 110, Kings offered 90, then apparently he said he wouldn’t accept 100. That’s too much for him. Elite shooter. Can’t deny it. But bad defender (even though he tries) and really really low IQ. Not worth it.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Oct 17, 2019 12:13:35 GMT -5
We straight up bombed on the warriors ...yes it is pre-season but still we lookin SO GOOD GAWD DAMN Clippers yall aint ready gonna make sure you reminded you the wannabe baby lakers come opening night Clippers are indeed ready.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Oct 17, 2019 12:14:42 GMT -5
Took me over 2 seasons accept him after the DMC trade and he’s torn that all down. I’m trading him if I’m Vlade.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 17, 2019 14:05:19 GMT -5
Hield doesn’t want a max, he’s just weighing his options but he said he would like to stay He’s wants 110, Kings offered 90, then apparently he said he wouldn’t accept 100. That’s too much for him. Elite shooter. Can’t deny it. But bad defender (even though he tries) and really really low IQ. Not worth it. He's being greedy He's no doubt an important piece of the team. He opens the lane for Fox and allows Bagley to move around the court BUT he's still the 3rd best player on the team. If he played lockdown defense he'd have a point but he doesn't so paying that amount of money for a shooter is too much They are better off trying to find a trade partner. Kings can't afford anything messing with chemistry as they can't have a setback. Flipping him for a pick or even a potential player is ideal. If I had to guess some deals, you have a door a bit open thanks to him being on a rookie deal Charlotte: They not trading 1st round picks most likely but maybe you can get a 2 seconds and Malik Monk Dallas: Depending on where they sit later, can trade him for Courtney Lee expiring contract and be a role player Boston: Flip him for Jaylen Brown tho he also looking for a max but I can see Kings considering it for him Clippers: Landry Shamet and a future pick (assuming they have any left) OKC: Maybe can flip him and Dedmon later in the season for Steven Adams Just stuff to throw out there
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Oct 17, 2019 14:16:07 GMT -5
Of those scenarios, I’d go Jaylen Brown in a second. I’d consider Malik Monk.
100+ mil for Buddy Hield is stupid money, and the Kong’s can’t be stupid with large scale extensions in the not-to-distant future.
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Post by Push R Truth on Oct 17, 2019 15:03:30 GMT -5
So like in all seriousness are their any teams that could realistically sign talent like Buddy for Max right now? It just feels like he's trying to create a market for himself that doesn't exist.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Oct 17, 2019 15:17:11 GMT -5
So like in all seriousness are their any teams that could realistically sign talent like Buddy for Max right now? It just feels like he's trying to create a market for himself that doesn't exist. I hope he tests free agency and gets a rude awakening.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 17, 2019 17:19:40 GMT -5
So like in all seriousness are their any teams that could realistically sign talent like Buddy for Max right now? It just feels like he's trying to create a market for himself that doesn't exist. My thing is I have two problems with this 1. You are not some big tier free agent nor are you a star. Don't compare yourself to stars who have not came to Sac. 2. $90 mill is not an insulting offer. If he would had said $75 mill, I would been more inclined to agree but don't bring your fight to the media because now you look like a hoe In a weak free agent class, I don't think it is outside the realm he could got max money but not for the full term. He may have gotten the max offer for a 3 year deal but not a 4 year deal. You're not a missing piece on a team, you're a very key role player. Jaylen Brown I can understand turning down $80 mill but even then I think he is a little crazy but due to his defense, someone will think they can make the next Kawhi out of him. Buddy, nah he's JJ Reddick who is a really good player but even at his best, he took max money on one year deals and is now settling into veteran role In closing, he needs to get it the f*** together
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Post by BRV on Oct 17, 2019 20:01:51 GMT -5
Boston: Flip him for Jaylen Brown tho he also looking for a max but I can see Kings considering it for him As a Celtics fan, I can't see any benefit to a Jaylen Brown for Buddy Hield trade. Boston would not be getting any advantage at the negotiating table or in terms of salary flexibility and they'd be acquiring a player who wouldn't fit into their system as well as Brown. Jaylen Brown makes perfect sense on Boston because he's a defensive stopper who has the ability to score 15 to 20 points on a given night, but who doesn't need the ball in his hands and won't gum up the works for the likes of Kemba Walker, Jayson Tatum, or Gordon Hayward. Hield, however, is a great shooter but a sieve defensively who would be likely relegated to bench minutes as a microwave offensive scorer off the bench when Walker or Tatum need a breather. He'd probably get stashed behind Marcus Smart on the depth chart and in the starting lineup, because Smart is a better fit for when Walker, Tatum, and Hayward are on the floor, much more than Hield would be.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Oct 17, 2019 20:25:47 GMT -5
Jaylen Brown hasn't done a damn thing yet. He's 22 with three years behind him, possible emerging defensive star, but whats his ceiling? If he thinks he's worth a max than as a Celtics fan I look forward to seeing him try to prove it this season.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 17, 2019 21:05:01 GMT -5
Boston: Flip him for Jaylen Brown tho he also looking for a max but I can see Kings considering it for him As a Celtics fan, I can't see any benefit to a Jaylen Brown for Buddy Hield trade. Boston would not be getting any advantage at the negotiating table or in terms of salary flexibility and they'd be acquiring a player who wouldn't fit into their system as well as Brown. Jaylen Brown makes perfect sense on Boston because he's a defensive stopper who has the ability to score 15 to 20 points on a given night, but who doesn't need the ball in his hands and won't gum up the works for the likes of Kemba Walker, Jayson Tatum, or Gordon Hayward. Hield, however, is a great shooter but a sieve defensively who would be likely relegated to bench minutes as a microwave offensive scorer off the bench when Walker or Tatum need a breather. He'd probably get stashed behind Marcus Smart on the depth chart and in the starting lineup, because Smart is a better fit for when Walker, Tatum, and Hayward are on the floor, much more than Hield would be. If Boston aren’t willing to give Brown that contact they could consider moving him. The Kings would consider giving up a protected pick and Hield to make that happen if they are willing to give Brown that contract Boston wouldn’t lose anything trading Brown. You get a shooter and still have the defensive prowess of Smart to lean on. Ainge would look to get something as opposed to losing Brown for nothing or being forced to match an overpay. Tho that’s just me spitballing, I don’t personally see a deal done
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Post by Crimson on Oct 18, 2019 1:56:09 GMT -5
I'm officially on the Point Justise bandwagon. If dude can just get his shot down and more consistently score in the double digits, I'm feeling good.
Also helps that now with Jimmy Butler here and Herro showing signs of being an offensive beast, there's not this pressure for him to produce as much offensive wise.
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Post by sfvega on Oct 18, 2019 6:19:10 GMT -5
As a Celtics fan, I can't see any benefit to a Jaylen Brown for Buddy Hield trade. Boston would not be getting any advantage at the negotiating table or in terms of salary flexibility and they'd be acquiring a player who wouldn't fit into their system as well as Brown. Jaylen Brown makes perfect sense on Boston because he's a defensive stopper who has the ability to score 15 to 20 points on a given night, but who doesn't need the ball in his hands and won't gum up the works for the likes of Kemba Walker, Jayson Tatum, or Gordon Hayward. Hield, however, is a great shooter but a sieve defensively who would be likely relegated to bench minutes as a microwave offensive scorer off the bench when Walker or Tatum need a breather. He'd probably get stashed behind Marcus Smart on the depth chart and in the starting lineup, because Smart is a better fit for when Walker, Tatum, and Hayward are on the floor, much more than Hield would be. If Boston aren’t willing to give Brown that contact they could consider moving him. The Kings would consider giving up a protected pick and Hield to make that happen if they are willing to give Brown that contract Boston wouldn’t lose anything trading Brown. You get a shooter and still have the defensive prowess of Smart to lean on. Ainge would look to get something as opposed to losing Brown for nothing or being forced to match an overpay. Tho that’s just me spitballing, I don’t personally see a deal done I think Hield starts on Boston (and pretty much any team he would go to). Smart's role has been the 6th man, and also who runs the 2nd team offense Hield or Edwards? The answer would be neither. It's like Cleveland with Sexton and Garland. They're both shooters and far from ideal running the 2nd team offense through. Smart is more important in that role since Rozier is gone now.
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