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Post by sfvega on Aug 21, 2020 16:55:58 GMT -5
I will absolutely concede that Jackson very likely coached them up in attitude and defensive discipline, but he also thought the best offense was Steph running iso and Klay playing with his back to the basket, and very likely would not have listened to whatever assistant coach suggested the key lineup to Kerr. Mark Jackson deserves credit for making them pros. He disciplined them and that's important but Kerr brought the winning formula and turned them loose. That discipline helped them but his system was trash and not listening to coaches and getting them fired or moved is why he don't have a job nowΒ Mark Jackson was super petty and people never forgot Jackson is a decent coach, but Kerr is one of the smartest, most even-keeled dudes in basketball. He's not Pop, but he's maybe Pop Lite. And it's not just the Splash Bros, he had that bench playing great as well. LeBron's Miami teams lost two Finals when their bench was atrocious. Same with Cleveland. A big weakness of super teams is that they're so top-heavy that it's hard to not get blown off the floor when your 2nd unit comes in. Toronto's depth last year was gigantic. Lakers without Bradley are the same way. Kerr turned a bunch of questionable moving parts into a cohesive unit. Guys like Bogut, McGee when he was at his lowest, Swaggy P, etc. even Livingston ended up looking way more competent that they would have elsewhere when they would be just another body on the Hornets or the Pistons or the Knicks.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 21, 2020 17:03:34 GMT -5
Mark Jackson deserves credit for making them pros. He disciplined them and that's important but Kerr brought the winning formula and turned them loose. That discipline helped them but his system was trash and not listening to coaches and getting them fired or moved is why he don't have a job now Mark Jackson was super petty and people never forgot Jackson is a decent coach, but Kerr is one of the smartest, most even-keeled dudes in basketball. He's not Pop, but he's maybe Pop Lite. And it's not just the Splash Bros, he had that bench playing great as well. LeBron's Miami teams lost two Finals when their bench was atrocious. Same with Cleveland. A big weakness of super teams is that they're so top-heavy that it's hard to not get blown off the floor when your 2nd unit comes in. Toronto's depth last year was gigantic. Lakers without Bradley are the same way. Kerr turned a bunch of questionable moving parts into a cohesive unit. Guys like Bogut, McGee when he was at his lowest, Swaggy P, etc. even Livingston ended up looking way more competent that they would have elsewhere when they would be just another body on the Hornets or the Pistons or the Knicks. Correct. Klay and Steph are great but what goes unappreciated is his work with everyone else. Got Iggy to buy in on being a bench player when he still had enough in the tank to be a starter. McGee, Bogue, Livingston, Speights, Barbosa, Looney, McCaw, West etc are just a bunch of names who played really good ball and knew their roles on the team Kerr without question will hit the HOF as an all around talent. Had a good career, was a good executive, and then became a great coach
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Post by sfvega on Aug 21, 2020 17:08:08 GMT -5
Jackson is a decent coach, but Kerr is one of the smartest, most even-keeled dudes in basketball. He's not Pop, but he's maybe Pop Lite. And it's not just the Splash Bros, he had that bench playing great as well. LeBron's Miami teams lost two Finals when their bench was atrocious. Same with Cleveland. A big weakness of super teams is that they're so top-heavy that it's hard to not get blown off the floor when your 2nd unit comes in. Toronto's depth last year was gigantic. Lakers without Bradley are the same way. Kerr turned a bunch of questionable moving parts into a cohesive unit. Guys like Bogut, McGee when he was at his lowest, Swaggy P, etc. even Livingston ended up looking way more competent that they would have elsewhere when they would be just another body on the Hornets or the Pistons or the Knicks. Correct. Klay and Steph are great but what goes unappreciated is his work with everyone else. Got Iggy to buy in on being a bench player when he still had enough in the tank to be a starter. McGee, Bogue, Livingston, Speights, Barbosa, Looney, McCaw, West etc are just a bunch of names who played really good ball and knew their roles on the teamΒ Kerr without question will hit the HOF as an all around talent. Had a good career, was a good executive, and then became a great coach Not to mention was a great commentator in the booth. Sorely missed these days.
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Post by Tom Turkey on Aug 21, 2020 17:22:29 GMT -5
Raptors up 3-0....unless the Raptors decide to take a nap, this series is over. Nets too short handed to deal and Vanvleet is playing his ass off Most likely playing his way out of Toronto price tag tooΒ Brooklynβs playing like a team that misses Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 21, 2020 17:24:42 GMT -5
Nets too short handed to deal and Vanvleet is playing his ass off Most likely playing his way out of Toronto price tag too Brooklynβs playing like a team that misses Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. A team that misses their regular players If they had Dinwiddie, DJ, Harris, Prince, and Chandler all rotation players this would be closer. They are basically playing with a role replacement squad
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 21, 2020 20:38:58 GMT -5
Luka out here thinking he tough lol
Don't go that route boy
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 21, 2020 20:40:36 GMT -5
KP now too
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 21, 2020 20:42:22 GMT -5
Kawhi getting tired of the Clippers shit, they playing too lazy
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 21:34:24 GMT -5
As a Celtics fan, Iβm thoroughly enjoying these Playoffs so far.
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Aug 21, 2020 22:01:14 GMT -5
Well. Mavs are toast now.
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Post by Shark on Aug 21, 2020 22:57:15 GMT -5
It really feels more like if the Clippers get out of the 1st round, it's not going to be because they are the better team. That BS ejection in Game 1 helped them a lot to win that game and even then it was close. They get handled in Game 2 and PG13 plays poorly. PG13 again comes up short tonight, 3-16 is not going to cut it, and Luka now has an ankle injury. They aren't really proving how good they are, just that they're getting luckier.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 22, 2020 2:32:38 GMT -5
It really feels more like if the Clippers get out of the 1st round, it's not going to be because they are the better team. That BS ejection in Game 1 helped them a lot to win that game and even then it was close. They get handled in Game 2 and PG13 plays poorly. PG13 again comes up short tonight, 3-16 is not going to cut it, and Luka now has an ankle injury. They aren't really proving how good they are, just that they're getting luckier. Luck is a big part of basketball. The fact they are beating the Mavs without playing nowhere near their best basketball should tell you a lot
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Post by Shark on Aug 22, 2020 3:21:39 GMT -5
It really feels more like if the Clippers get out of the 1st round, it's not going to be because they are the better team. That BS ejection in Game 1 helped them a lot to win that game and even then it was close. They get handled in Game 2 and PG13 plays poorly. PG13 again comes up short tonight, 3-16 is not going to cut it, and Luka now has an ankle injury. They aren't really proving how good they are, just that they're getting luckier. Luck is a big part of basketball. The fact they are beating the Mavs without playing nowhere near their best basketball should tell you a lot It tells me that if they keep playing like this, they're getting bounced by Utah in the next round.
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Post by sfvega on Aug 22, 2020 3:33:42 GMT -5
Luck is a big part of basketball. The fact they are beating the Mavs without playing nowhere near their best basketball should tell you a lot It tells me that if they keep playing like this, they're getting bounced by Utah in the next round.Β We're not even sure Utah will be in the next round. But if that is the match-up, Utah would be lucky to see a game 6. Speaking of teams that cannot be looking forward to the next round, Boston has to wish they would have drawn the Milwaukee side of the East.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 22, 2020 3:56:08 GMT -5
Luck is a big part of basketball. The fact they are beating the Mavs without playing nowhere near their best basketball should tell you a lot It tells me that if they keep playing like this, they're getting bounced by Utah in the next round.Β Highly doubt it. Utah is playing their best ball while Clippers isnβt but Clippers would still beat them in 6 Dallas is a bigger challenge to Clippers due to their offense but Utah will not score like this forever
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 22, 2020 4:28:24 GMT -5
Rumor going around Pistons want to team up the Ball brothers
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Aug 22, 2020 6:12:37 GMT -5
Rumor going around Pistons want to team up the Ball brothers They can also fire their coach and hire Lavar. It would be brilliant.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 11:00:54 GMT -5
Yeah there is no chance the Jazz are a threat to the Clippers. The Mavs are likely the toughest matchup for the Clippers until the WCF.
Paul George has to turn things around, though.
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Post by Tom Turkey on Aug 22, 2020 12:21:55 GMT -5
Unsurprisingly, Nick Nurse is the 2019-20 Coach of the Year.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Aug 22, 2020 12:38:28 GMT -5
Unsurprisingly, Nick Nurse is the 2019-20 Coach of the Year. As he should
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