|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 5, 2020 22:23:50 GMT -5
KD shuts the door on returning this year, Kyrie too. Nets shut the door on that two months ago ESPN trying to do their best to stir up some shit and it got shut down again |
|
|
|
Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jun 5, 2020 22:28:38 GMT -5
KD shuts the door on returning this year, Kyrie too. Nets shut the door on that two months ago ESPN trying to do their best to stir up some shit and it got shut down again Can’t blame ESPN, I got excited thinking of what it could be, hell Vegas went crazy about the possibility. The east is weak enough that the Nets could’ve reached the conference finals with those two. |
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 6, 2020 22:44:28 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 8, 2020 11:54:15 GMT -5
Malik Monk is reinstated for his suspension from Feb and rumor going around was it was for Cocaine
|
|
Rican
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
July 17, 2011 - HHHe called it
Posts: 16,740
|
Post by Rican on Jun 8, 2020 14:15:05 GMT -5
LaMarcus Aldridge had season ending surgery and won’t be going to Orlando with the Spurs. Damnit. That playoff streak is done
|
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 8, 2020 14:39:18 GMT -5
LaMarcus Aldridge had season ending surgery and won’t be going to Orlando with the Spurs. Damnit. That playoff streak is done Spurs need a lottery pick to start getting themselves back into some type of contention with a central player In the long term planning this isn't the worst thing and I think LA is a free agent either this year or next so if Spurs are trying to trade him they want him healthy considering this is going to be a short offseason |
|
tenshi
Patti Mayonnaise
Probably more memorable than a Charlotte title reign
Posts: 35,097
|
Post by tenshi on Jun 8, 2020 16:22:56 GMT -5
LaMarcus Aldridge had season ending surgery and won’t be going to Orlando with the Spurs. Damnit. That playoff streak is done Spurs need a lottery pick to start getting themselves back into some type of contention with a central player In the long term planning this isn't the worst thing and I think LA is a free agent either this year or next so if Spurs are trying to trade him they want him healthy considering this is going to be a short offseason The thing is finding a team that'd want Aldridge and can give the Spurs a good offer in return. Poetlt has shown signs of being a good rebounder and defender but his offense needs work. If they can find someone to complement him either vĂa trade or the draft, San Antonio could be more open to let Aldridge go but, if they don't, they'd have one of their top offensive options suffering injuries that can damage him, his trade and his production before entering free agency in 2021. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 18:08:53 GMT -5
I still can't believe a team as smart as the Spurs thought DeRozan and Aldridge in the same lineup could work in today's NBA. A rare misstep by the Spurs org.
|
|
|
|
Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jun 8, 2020 18:14:10 GMT -5
I still can't believe a team as smart as the Spurs thought DeRozan and Aldridge in the same lineup could work in today's NBA. A rare misstep by the Spurs org. Maybe DeRozan was the best deal that they could get for Kawhi? I don’t recall any other team offering an all star and all nba player for Leonard. |
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 8, 2020 18:27:09 GMT -5
Spurs had no leverage
Everyone knew Kawhi wanted to be in L.A. and knew it was a one year rental. Toronto made out as well as they did is rare. They won a championship with a guy as a rental and was able to have a young player turn into an All Star to replace what they were losing and be the future of the team
For the Spurs, they ended up with an All Star and a young Center. The trade wasn't a bad flip but DeRozan is what he is and Spurs itself is a team that needs a reboot
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 18:52:48 GMT -5
Maybe I'm biased because I saw DeRozan a lot, but he was a high usage, ISO heavy, mid range shooter who couldn't play defense while in Toronto. The Raptors tried everything they could to build a roster that could mask his weaknesses, but it always failed in the playoffs. I said at the time if the Raptors just replaced DeRozan with Danny Green, they would have been a better team. Kawhi on top of that was a dream. Maybe the Spurs thought Pop could help DeRozan, and honestly, looking at the numbers, he was surprisingly very efficient this year before the stoppage. Maybe Pop did work some magic there, but he still can't shoot 3's, and neither can Aldridge, which is not going to work in today's pace and space NBA.
Maybe DeRozan/Poeltl was the best offer available, but I'd have to know what the Lakers and/or Clippers were offering (don't remember who else was serious about getting him) before I say that. DeRozan is not typically the style of player the Spurs would acquire. I think it may have been partly the "best" offer they got, but also partly not wanting to send him to LA.
|
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 8, 2020 18:57:57 GMT -5
Kyle Lowry deserved as much blame for choking in the playoffs, just as much as DeRozan. Lowry was able to redeem himself by finally being the 3rd best player on a team instead of the 2nd best
DeRozan is not a bad player but he's a niche player in the NBA where he's good enough to get to the basket at will but if you aren't shooting and hitting 3s at an honest rate you are going to hinder yourself. DeMar with his efficiency this year needs to be on a team where he is the 3rd option that can get you an easy 15-18PPG
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 19:08:03 GMT -5
Lowry was better in the playoffs this year, partly because he was playing with a superstar, but also because the Raptors were able to space the floor on offense and run both fast break and ISO offense depending on situation. They couldn't do that with DeRozan because he was ball dominant on offense, and he couldn't hit 3's so the spacing wasn't as good. I think a lot of people assumed the Raptors were overrated because LBJ kept clowning them in the playoffs, but I think it's understated how much DeRozan hurt them despite the traditional numbers looking great. You're right, he's not a bad player, he's just not a good fit in today's NBA. If this was still 2000's style basketball, then he would have been better off, though defensively he was never good enough to be a tier 1 player.
|
|
|
|
Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jun 8, 2020 19:08:19 GMT -5
Maybe I'm biased because I saw DeRozan a lot, but he was a high usage, ISO heavy, mid range shooter who couldn't play defense while in Toronto. The Raptors tried everything they could to build a roster that could mask his weaknesses, but it always failed in the playoffs. I said at the time if the Raptors just replaced DeRozan with Danny Green, they would have been a better team. Kawhi on top of that was a dream. Maybe the Spurs thought Pop could help DeRozan, and honestly, looking at the numbers, he was surprisingly very efficient this year before the stoppage. Maybe Pop did work some magic there, but he still can't shoot 3's, and neither can Aldridge, which is not going to work in today's pace and space NBA. Maybe DeRozan/Poeltl was the best offer available, but I'd have to know what the Lakers and/or Clippers were offering (don't remember who else was serious about getting him) before I say that. DeRozan is not typically the style of player the Spurs would acquire. I think it may have been partly the "best" offer they got, but also partly not wanting to send him to LA. In hindsight it was the best deal, I think the lakers offered Lonzo and the rest of the team except Lebron but they didn’t wanted it. Can’t blame San Antonio cause the Pelicans got those players and they didn’t improve much. |
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 8, 2020 19:12:16 GMT -5
Maybe I'm biased because I saw DeRozan a lot, but he was a high usage, ISO heavy, mid range shooter who couldn't play defense while in Toronto. The Raptors tried everything they could to build a roster that could mask his weaknesses, but it always failed in the playoffs. I said at the time if the Raptors just replaced DeRozan with Danny Green, they would have been a better team. Kawhi on top of that was a dream. Maybe the Spurs thought Pop could help DeRozan, and honestly, looking at the numbers, he was surprisingly very efficient this year before the stoppage. Maybe Pop did work some magic there, but he still can't shoot 3's, and neither can Aldridge, which is not going to work in today's pace and space NBA. Maybe DeRozan/Poeltl was the best offer available, but I'd have to know what the Lakers and/or Clippers were offering (don't remember who else was serious about getting him) before I say that. DeRozan is not typically the style of player the Spurs would acquire. I think it may have been partly the "best" offer they got, but also partly not wanting to send him to LA. In hindsight it was the best deal, I think the lakers offered Lonzo and the rest of the team except Lebron but they didn’t wanted it. Can’t blame San Antonio cause the Pelicans got those players and they didn’t improve much. Yet.....Record does not tell the full story and Ingram has turned into an All Star while Lonzo is getting his confidence back and a perfect compliment to Zion They didn't do the trade because they weren't going to give Kawhi what he wanted and have to deal with Kawhi in the West |
|
|
|
Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jun 8, 2020 19:18:49 GMT -5
In hindsight it was the best deal, I think the lakers offered Lonzo and the rest of the team except Lebron but they didn’t wanted it. Can’t blame San Antonio cause the Pelicans got those players and they didn’t improve much. Yet.....Record does not tell the full story and Ingram has turned into an All Star while Lonzo is getting his confidence back and a perfect compliment to Zion They didn't do the trade because they weren't going to give Kawhi what he wanted and have to deal with Kawhi in the West Eddie Murphy: It still sucks man Lol they may have some future still. Just wish they would’ve played that way in LA. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 19:21:45 GMT -5
Maybe I'm biased because I saw DeRozan a lot, but he was a high usage, ISO heavy, mid range shooter who couldn't play defense while in Toronto. The Raptors tried everything they could to build a roster that could mask his weaknesses, but it always failed in the playoffs. I said at the time if the Raptors just replaced DeRozan with Danny Green, they would have been a better team. Kawhi on top of that was a dream. Maybe the Spurs thought Pop could help DeRozan, and honestly, looking at the numbers, he was surprisingly very efficient this year before the stoppage. Maybe Pop did work some magic there, but he still can't shoot 3's, and neither can Aldridge, which is not going to work in today's pace and space NBA. Maybe DeRozan/Poeltl was the best offer available, but I'd have to know what the Lakers and/or Clippers were offering (don't remember who else was serious about getting him) before I say that. DeRozan is not typically the style of player the Spurs would acquire. I think it may have been partly the "best" offer they got, but also partly not wanting to send him to LA. In hindsight it was the best deal, I think the lakers offered Lonzo and the rest of the team except Lebron but they didn’t wanted it. Can’t blame San Antonio cause the Pelicans got those players and they didn’t improve much. If they offered Ingram and Ball for Kawhi, then I would have taken that deal in a heartbeat over DeRozan. |
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 8, 2020 19:24:35 GMT -5
Yet.....Record does not tell the full story and Ingram has turned into an All Star while Lonzo is getting his confidence back and a perfect compliment to Zion They didn't do the trade because they weren't going to give Kawhi what he wanted and have to deal with Kawhi in the West Eddie Murphy: It still sucks man Lol they may have some future still. Just wish they would’ve played that way in LA. No rookie has succeeded on the Lakers the last few years Russell - goes to the Nets and becomes an All Star Randle - Put up All Star numbers on the Pelicans Ingram - Finally became mini KD everyone compared him to and put up 24PPG in an All Star season Ball - Complimentary PG on a good team Look at the bright side. They won't be drafting high for the next 10 years because they traded all their picks just like the Clippers |
|
|
|
Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jun 8, 2020 19:27:06 GMT -5
In hindsight it was the best deal, I think the lakers offered Lonzo and the rest of the team except Lebron but they didn’t wanted it. Can’t blame San Antonio cause the Pelicans got those players and they didn’t improve much. If they offered Ingram and Ball for Kawhi, then I would have taken that deal in a heartbeat over DeRozan. At that time Ingram was injury prone and Ball couldn’t score shit, the lakers were also a losing team with them as the main guys. I don’t know how Gentry turned them around. |
|
|
|
Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jun 8, 2020 19:29:40 GMT -5
Eddie Murphy: It still sucks man Lol they may have some future still. Just wish they would’ve played that way in LA. No rookie has succeeded on the Lakers the last few years Russell - goes to the Nets and becomes an All Star Randle - Put up All Star numbers on the Pelicans Ingram - Finally became mini KD everyone compared him to and put up 24PPG in an All Star season Ball - Complimentary PG on a good team Look at the bright side. They won't be drafting high for the next 10 years because they traded all their picks just like the Clippers You tell me if having Julius Randle is a good thing lol Yes those guys managed to turn their careers around, unfortunately Russel and Randle have both regressed hope that doesn’t happen to Ball and Ingram though. |
|
:format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/61946227/Dqpaz_iVsAA04LW.0.jpg)
