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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 26, 2020 11:14:53 GMT -5
As I said two days ago Both Jabari Parker and Buddy Hield tested positive for the Covid 10% of the NBA I think will test positive if not more
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jun 26, 2020 12:11:10 GMT -5
So they're still planning on playing in Florida?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 12:14:32 GMT -5
I was expecting worse than the numbers Woj reported. Whether thatβs good or bad, I have no idea, but Iβm surprised itβs that low tbh.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jun 26, 2020 14:57:40 GMT -5
It's almost like opening everything up without an idea of how to track the virus was an all-around bad idea.
Imagine that.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 26, 2020 16:41:57 GMT -5
Willie Cauley Stein will not go to Orlando to be with the Mavs
He and his girl having a baby due soon
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Post by sfvega on Jun 26, 2020 20:20:38 GMT -5
Yeah, when you think about it VC played in 22 seasons and peaked in his 3rd. That's pretty f***ing crazy considering most guys who peak early are out of the league before they make it 10 or 11 years, much less double that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 20:50:46 GMT -5
I agree him spending nearly a decade as a role player will make people forget about his prime, but to me, he is a guy who should have been better than he actually was during his prime, and I know thatβs saying a lot based on how good he was. He was shooting +40% from 3βs by his 2nd year in the league and that was before everyone shooting 3βs was cool. Best dunker ever. Quickest first step ever (if not then heβs in the conversation). Could create off the dribble from anywhere. Played defense when he was motivated. He is someone who should have been in the same sentence as Kobe, while Iβm not sure heβd be in the top 5 players people talk about from the 2000βs. His time as a star after 2001 was largely forgettable, as those NJ teams never did anything noteworthy despite how great he was, and by the time he made the ECF with the Magic he wasnβt that same guy. Iβm not saying I disagree with you, he has a HOF resume which might be under appreciated a bit because a lot of fans will remember him as a journeyman for the last decade but as a Raptors fan I saw him from day 1. As great as he was, if he had a mindset like Kobe or AI, I think heβs on a different level public opinion. Some times people with so much god given talent can coast on that talent because they know they can, and VC had that rep for a long time. Hmmm, i'd have to defer to you on how much he coasted in his prime. I never thought of him as Roy Jones type of lazy where he got over on his god given talent and never put the work in but I can def buy into not having the most legendary work ethic which is what separate Kobe from VC and AI VC last great year was maybe 06-07. Him and Kidd worked really well as a tandem but they needed a 3rd player and RJ couldn't fill that void as a reliable scorer behind VC. Def by the time he got to the Magic, he was a diff guy. 33 and out his prime. The biggest knock against VC is as talented as he was, he was never really in title contention when he was the star. He didn't make his teammates better. Would be an interesting debate as how him and T-Mac would had fared if Toronto had kept him and he blossomed into the star he did After 2001 when Vince started getting more injuries and not living up to (possibly unfair) expectations, there was definitely questions about his work ethic. I believe he even implied in an interview after he was traded to the Nets that he coasted a bit on his talent, but I don't remember the exact wording. All I remember is the media and Raptors fans blowing it up. There was a lot of drama with VC and Toronto, and after he was traded to the Nets, he never quite had the same shine as a superstar as he did during his initial years in Toronto. I think with Vince he had so much talent that he probably took it for granted some times, whereas someone like Kobe worked hard at everything. I mention Kobe because I remember during 2000-01, there was a legit argument as to which of the two you would want on your team. That's how great Carter's career started. After being traded on the Nets, his career seemed to fade a bit, despite his numbers still being that of an all star. Still an amazing career either way. Carter's career feels like it lasted my whole lifetime.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 11:47:29 GMT -5
I know the schedule was based on a team's remaining schedule prior to the league shutting down, so teams are playing who they would have played anyway minus the 8 teams that are not in the bubble, but man that Pelicans schedule......
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Post by sfvega on Jun 27, 2020 11:56:28 GMT -5
I know the schedule was based on a team's remaining schedule prior to the league shutting down, so teams are playing who they would have played anyway minus the 8 teams that are not in the bubble, but man that Pelicans schedule...... That schedule still pisses me off. Two weeks you put people at risk and the league at risk of shutting down for REGULAR SEASON GAMES.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 12:26:15 GMT -5
I know the schedule was based on a team's remaining schedule prior to the league shutting down, so teams are playing who they would have played anyway minus the 8 teams that are not in the bubble, but man that Pelicans schedule...... That schedule still pisses me off. Two weeks you put people at risk and the league at risk of shutting down for REGULAR SEASON GAMES. Agreed. I'm guessing there is some sort of TV revenue incentive to get through X amount of regular season games, which is why they are going through with it. Otherwise this seems completely pointless. The only incentive from a standings perspective is giving Zion a chance to make the playoffs. That's literally it. Everything else is pretty much set in stone. I'm sure players wanted some tune up games before the grind of the playoffs began, but time is not exactly on any sport's side right now. I would have preferred just starting with the playoffs, with maybe some training camp games for tune up.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 29, 2020 13:08:45 GMT -5
Trevor Ariza and Wilson Chandler are not coming back this season
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Post by Push R Truth on Jun 29, 2020 14:57:37 GMT -5
I completely side with Ariza with his decision. Glad to see his dedication to his kid's life. I never want to be on the side of telling a parent they can't see their kid. Unless, you know, they are a murderer or something.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 29, 2020 15:02:42 GMT -5
I completely side with Ariza with his decision. Glad to see his dedication to his kid's life. I never want to be on the side of telling a parent they can't see their kid. Unless, you know, they are a murderer or something. Yea, I believe he is having a custody battle for his kid so the league can kick rocks until next season Mostly everyone who sits out will be doing it for family reasons. Chandler said he doesn't want to leave his family
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 29, 2020 20:54:02 GMT -5
Hmmm, i'd have to defer to you on how much he coasted in his prime. I never thought of him as Roy Jones type of lazy where he got over on his god given talent and never put the work in but I can def buy into not having the most legendary work ethic which is what separate Kobe from VC and AI VC last great year was maybe 06-07. Him and Kidd worked really well as a tandem but they needed a 3rd player and RJ couldn't fill that void as a reliable scorer behind VC. Def by the time he got to the Magic, he was a diff guy. 33 and out his prime.Β The biggest knock against VC is as talented as he was, he was never really in title contention when he was the star. He didn't make his teammates better. Would be an interesting debate as how him and T-Mac would had fared if Toronto had kept him and he blossomed into the star he didΒ After 2001 when Vince started getting more injuries and not living up to (possibly unfair) expectations, there was definitely questions about his work ethic. I believe he even implied in an interview after he was traded to the Nets that he coasted a bit on his talent, but I don't remember the exact wording. All I remember is the media and Raptors fans blowing it up. There was a lot of drama with VC and Toronto, and after he was traded to the Nets, he never quite had the same shine as a superstar as he did during his initial years in Toronto. I think with Vince he had so much talent that he probably took it for granted some times, whereas someone like Kobe worked hard at everything. I mention Kobe because I remember during 2000-01, there was a legit argument as to which of the two you would want on your team. That's how great Carter's career started. After being traded on the Nets, his career seemed to fade a bit, despite his numbers still being that of an all star. Still an amazing career either way. Carter's career feels like it lasted my whole lifetime. Vince actually admitted after the Raptors traded him he stopped trying because he didnt feel the organization was committed to winning. He was furious that the Raptors hired Rob Babcock as GM rather than Dr J (who openly campaigned for the job) and then he just gave up when Babcock drafted Rafael Aroujo over Andre Iguodola (who he openly campaigned for predraft)
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jun 29, 2020 22:26:47 GMT -5
Seems these Brooklyn Nets players will not be going to Florida
* Kyrie Irving * Kevin Durant * Wilson Chandler * Nic Claxton * DeAndre Jordan (tested positive for COEVID)
And Spencer Dinwiddie is unsure at this time
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 22:49:11 GMT -5
After 2001 when Vince started getting more injuries and not living up to (possibly unfair) expectations, there was definitely questions about his work ethic. I believe he even implied in an interview after he was traded to the Nets that he coasted a bit on his talent, but I don't remember the exact wording. All I remember is the media and Raptors fans blowing it up. There was a lot of drama with VC and Toronto, and after he was traded to the Nets, he never quite had the same shine as a superstar as he did during his initial years in Toronto. I think with Vince he had so much talent that he probably took it for granted some times, whereas someone like Kobe worked hard at everything. I mention Kobe because I remember during 2000-01, there was a legit argument as to which of the two you would want on your team. That's how great Carter's career started. After being traded on the Nets, his career seemed to fade a bit, despite his numbers still being that of an all star. Still an amazing career either way. Carter's career feels like it lasted my whole lifetime. Vince actually admitted after the Raptors traded him he stopped trying because he didnt feel the organization was committed to winning. He was furious that the Raptors hired Rob Babcock as GM rather than Dr J (who openly campaigned for the job) and then he just gave up when Babcock drafted Rafael Aroujo over Andre Iguodola (who he openly campaigned for predraft) Babcock drafting Araujo and trading Carter for a sack of garbage all in a span of 5 months still haunts me. Then he passed on Danny Granger the following year to draft Joey Graham. Man what a horrible time to be a Raptors fan.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 30, 2020 12:23:34 GMT -5
NBA news
- Deal with JR "HennyGod" Smith is being finalized with the Lakers - Three Pelicans players tested positive for COVID (We don't know who) - Dame Lillard gets one of the three covers for 2k21 (Wake me for Kobe legend cover) - Nuggets shut down facility due to virus
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 30, 2020 15:20:36 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 1, 2020 11:12:56 GMT -5
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 1, 2020 23:27:27 GMT -5
According to Brett Brown, no Sixers have opted out of play, and Ben Simmons is fully recovered from his injury earlier this year
Now can the team actually mesh together?
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