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Post by toodarkmark on Sept 26, 2020 22:44:15 GMT -5
I got Jordan and then everybody else.   LBJ is in with Magic, Bird,Kobe but the Bulls teams with Jordan were automatic.  Were they? Because I remember when Detroit owned them for years, and Jordan was considered a guy who couldn't win in the playoffs. He 100% turned that around, but people forget what people said about him from like 87 until 1991. Lebron is a level above Kobe, Bird and Magic. It's Jordan, Lebron, Kareem, then Magic, Bird, and I actually put Tim Duncan ahead of Kobe, but that's subjective. But either way, 38-10-16 in a 5 game closeout performance at 35 is f'ing amazing. |
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Post by Shark on Sept 26, 2020 22:44:31 GMT -5
BACK IN THE FINALS BAYYYYYBEEEEEE!!!! and anotha division banner to hang up. Hell of a series though Denver is a special special team and gave literally everything they are gonna be hell to deal with it for years to come at full strength. They did an amazing job drafting and putting pieces around those top draft picks to slowly build a contender. I am not going to be shocked to see Denver win an NBA title in the next few years. They are going to be a tough tough out for the next many many years. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 22:44:55 GMT -5
This is why we basically gave up everything we did for AD and we got one more job to do.
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Post by madness50 on Sept 26, 2020 22:45:37 GMT -5
LeBron was channeling Big Game James Worthy in this close out game. Biggest stat line in a close out game for LA since Worthy did it in the 1988 Finals.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 26, 2020 22:48:16 GMT -5
As I said once Clippers went down, this is Lakers NBA title to lose
The biggest a LeBron team has been the favorite since he faced the Mavs
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Sept 26, 2020 22:52:42 GMT -5
I got Jordan and then everybody else. LBJ is in with Magic, Bird,Kobe but the Bulls teams with Jordan were automatic. Were they? Because I remember when Detroit owned them for years, and Jordan was considered a guy who couldn't win in the playoffs. He 100% turned that around, but people forget what people said about him from like 87 until 1991. Lebron is a level above Kobe, Bird and Magic. It's Jordan, Lebron, Kareem, then Magic, Bird, and I actually put Tim Duncan ahead of Kobe, but that's subjective. But either way, 38-10-16 in a 5 game closeout performance at 35 is f'ing amazing. Yeah they were. After Jordan played for 5 seasons The Bulls won a championship every season that he played a full season for them. Lebron doesn't compare. And I'd argue Bird or Magic would have 5 or 6 titles if the other didn't exist. They also saved what was a dying sport. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 22:55:36 GMT -5
 Lets f***ing go work aint done and we will see if Miami can close out or if that series goes to 7. In the words of Unc..."if a dog had a square ass it would poop blocks" lol |
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Post by AwamoriRock on Sept 26, 2020 22:58:39 GMT -5
Were they? Because I remember when Detroit owned them for years, and Jordan was considered a guy who couldn't win in the playoffs. He 100% turned that around, but people forget what people said about him from like 87 until 1991. Lebron is a level above Kobe, Bird and Magic. It's Jordan, Lebron, Kareem, then Magic, Bird, and I actually put Tim Duncan ahead of Kobe, but that's subjective. But either way, 38-10-16 in a 5 game closeout performance at 35 is f'ing amazing. Yeah they were. After Jordan played for 5 seasons The Bulls won a championship every season that he played a full season for them.  Lebron doesn't compare.  And I'd argue Bird or Magic would have 5 or 6 titles if the other didn't exist.  They also saved what was a dying sport. The what ifs are too much here. Jordan didn’t have the benefit of advanced training and science, he also didn’t play with the scrubs LeBron had to play with. It’s so hard to compare eras. Like I think the 2017 Warriors sweep the Bulls but what if they had to eat burgers at halftime? |
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Sept 26, 2020 23:03:42 GMT -5
Yeah they were. After Jordan played for 5 seasons The Bulls won a championship every season that he played a full season for them. Lebron doesn't compare. And I'd argue Bird or Magic would have 5 or 6 titles if the other didn't exist. They also saved what was a dying sport. The what ifs are too much here. Jordan didn’t have the benefit of advanced training and science, he also didn’t play with the scrubs LeBron had to play with. It’s so hard to compare eras. Like I think the 2017 Warriors sweep the Bulls but what if they had to eat burgers at halftime? Pippen is all world, but the rest of the team isn't an unstoppable train by any stretch. Plus it's not like Jordan left the Bulls to go play with David Robinson and Dominique Wilkins because the Bulls werent good enough and won two titles there. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 26, 2020 23:05:43 GMT -5
Jordan is still the GOAT, LeBron is at worst 3rd on a list but that's no shame that people try to make it out to be
WHen you start talking the greats of all time, you have to pick thin hairs with a fine tooth comb and LeBron has some imperfections in his prime he can't get past but he is still an all time great
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Sept 26, 2020 23:07:37 GMT -5
Jordan is still the GOAT, LeBron is at worst 3rd on a list but that's no shame that people try to make it out to be WHen you start talking the greats of all time, you have to pick thin hairs with a fine tooth comb and LeBron has some imperfections in his prime he can't get past but he is still an all time great AND when people make comparisons to Jordan and its not laughed off right away you know you're legit. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 26, 2020 23:10:36 GMT -5
Jordan is still the GOAT, LeBron is at worst 3rd on a list but that's no shame that people try to make it out to be WHen you start talking the greats of all time, you have to pick thin hairs with a fine tooth comb and LeBron has some imperfections in his prime he can't get past but he is still an all time great AND when people make comparisons to Jordan and its not laughed off right away you know you're legit. LeBron belongs in the convo just like other GOATS of their generation What he has done in his career is remarkable and he could lead a 3rd team to an NBA title Now, I will joke he's a mercenary and only goes to teams he can control but none the less that's what happens when you are that great, you can dictate your moves |
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Post by sfvega on Sept 27, 2020 1:12:34 GMT -5
I got Jordan and then everybody else.   LBJ is in with Magic, Bird,Kobe but the Bulls teams with Jordan were automatic.  Were they? Because I remember when Detroit owned them for years, and Jordan was considered a guy who couldn't win in the playoffs. He 100% turned that around, but people forget what people said about him from like 87 until 1991. Lebron is a level above Kobe, Bird and Magic. It's Jordan, Lebron, Kareem, then Magic, Bird, and I actually put Tim Duncan ahead of Kobe, but that's subjective. But either way, 38-10-16 in a 5 game closeout performance at 35 is f'ing amazing. Duncan, Wilt, Kareem, etc. Kobe isn't in my top 15. |
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Sept 27, 2020 1:36:51 GMT -5
Yeah they were. After Jordan played for 5 seasons The Bulls won a championship every season that he played a full season for them.  Lebron doesn't compare.  And I'd argue Bird or Magic would have 5 or 6 titles if the other didn't exist.  They also saved what was a dying sport. The what ifs are too much here. Jordan didn’t have the benefit of advanced training and science Also look at the dang sneakers dudes was wearing in the 80's,MJ didn't have basic arch support every game his first few seasons. Who knows how many years got taken off so many players careers from that alone |
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Post by AwamoriRock on Sept 27, 2020 2:02:04 GMT -5
The what ifs are too much here. Jordan didn’t have the benefit of advanced training and science Also look at the dang sneakers dudes was wearing in the 80's,MJ didn't have basic arch support every game his first few seasons. Who knows how many years got taken off so many players careers from that alone Yeah, it’s why comparing eras is ultimately fruitless—there’s a caveat for everything. Curry would be like dropping an alien into that era, while Jordan with proper conditioning might be unstoppable. |
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Sept 27, 2020 9:43:10 GMT -5
Also look at the dang sneakers dudes was wearing in the 80's,MJ didn't have basic arch support every game his first few seasons. Who knows how many years got taken off so many players careers from that alone Yeah, it’s why comparing eras is ultimately fruitless—there’s a caveat for everything. Curry would be like dropping an alien into that era, while Jordan with proper conditioning might be unstoppable. Or a guy like Bird in an era where 3’s are as commonplace as today |
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Post by toodarkmark on Sept 27, 2020 10:22:26 GMT -5
Who would people prefer to be in the finals with the Lakers?
Boston has the history with the Lakers that makes the matchup instantly a classic. I'm a huge fan of Marcus Smart and his toughness, and they a lot of talent when they're healthy. I think it's a better matchup for the Lakers.
Miami and Lakers I feel would go to 7 games. Miami isnt supposed to be there, Lebron and Davis are expected to win, but Butler and Adebayo are a matchup nightmare for those two. Green hasn't been playing great offensively, but him on Herro is a good matchup. In the end, it will be up to the Lakers bench to have some big games. Howard (even if he starts), Rondo, Kuzma, and Morris will be the keys to a Lakers championship. Or Lebron just dominates Butler, but I don't see that happening.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 10:40:52 GMT -5
The GOAT talk is always just so funny and obsurd to me because there is no set criteria so it all just ends up being a wishey washey arguement.
Anyways as for Miami or Boston.
Lakers still hold the advantage against either team because there is no one on either team that can stop AD and Bron but Miami matches up better because Miami can put Bam on AD etc and Miami would definetly push it to 6 games but if Bron shows up like he did in the final 3 lastnight it is gonna be real trouble for Miami.
If it ends up being Boston it will at best another 5 game trouncing.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 27, 2020 11:36:20 GMT -5
Neither team has the star power to match LeBron/AD but both are good teams that can neutralize at least one
If Boston can make this comeback against the Heat, I can see them beating LA in 6/7 games
If Miami wins, I think Lakers play enough tough basketball to win in 6. Miami hasn't been dominating people and have made comebacks that Lakers are also bad at giving up but I can't see LBJ not doing everything in his power and probably draining whatever he has left of his prime to win this chip
This one is more important to him then the Cavs was
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 11:53:24 GMT -5
Malik Beasley is in a whole lot of trouble.
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