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Post by chronocross on Jun 27, 2019 6:52:29 GMT -5
Wow, WTF.
As for Heyman, yeah he was really good at conning people especially those who wanted to leave to make more money in WCW. I'm glad Dreamer is in a better place now.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jun 27, 2019 7:27:35 GMT -5
Tommy had to close down the doors because Heyman didn’t even care at that point what happened to ecw.
I don’t buy the story that he couldn’t tell anyone ecw was closing because of bankruptcy court in order to pay the guys.
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Post by Crow Dust on Jun 27, 2019 7:34:15 GMT -5
I ain’t saying it’s right but I get where he was coming from.
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Post by ERON on Jun 27, 2019 7:47:31 GMT -5
I've had times in my life where I was really frustrated, and used fantasy scenarios like this to act out my frustration in my head. They usually end with me mentally telling myself something along the lines of, "WTF, dude," knowing full well that I'd never have the guts to actually do anything like that for real. Hopefully that's all this was, and Tommy's just being overdramatic about it.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 27, 2019 8:15:45 GMT -5
Also, I knew he had turned down WCW offers, but had no idea it was for that much. This was at a time WCW were paying Lanny Poffo hundreds of thousands to sit home just to keep Randy Savage happy. Dreamer actually had name value back then and Bischoff was a big fan, so I've no doubt Tommy turned down a huge payday to stay loyal.
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Post by Mecca on Jun 27, 2019 8:34:12 GMT -5
He should have remembered what Kevin Nash says......the only things real in the business are the money and the miles. If you legit turn down 750k to work for peanuts then you're a dipshit.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 8:40:10 GMT -5
I dont think he should have kept to himself if it hells him make feel better and "atone" in a way. Especially because the world is really needing to reavaliate mental illness. Shows how far someone can drop over your actions. Also how much Heyman ruined lifes but Heyman being scummy is nothing new This. Keeping that inside for years would have done further damage to him. I'm glad he's ok now because yeah, that's dark. Rough.
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Post by timelimitdraw on Jun 27, 2019 9:08:42 GMT -5
As someone who struggles with mental illness, I'm glad that he's in a better place, but it's scary to realize that he had that idea back then. One of the good things I can say about Dreamer is that his loyalty has shown others what to do (work hard, be proactive) and what NOT to do. One example: AJ Styles, who was all-in at TNA for years. When they were going to cut his pay in half, he could've had the Kool-Aid and been a loyal "good soldier" but instead, he bet on himself.
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Post by jivesoulbrah on Jun 27, 2019 9:11:04 GMT -5
Jesus Christ.
He could’ve just said I wanted to murder Paul Heyman, but wow did he go into detail.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Jun 27, 2019 9:20:05 GMT -5
In light of recent events I hope that arena isn't STILL allowing people to come in armed
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Post by thetower52 on Jun 27, 2019 9:20:10 GMT -5
Tommy dreamer also said he wanted someone to use a sniper on him on a ppv once
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jun 27, 2019 9:30:01 GMT -5
Goddamn, Tommy.
You don't have to be so candid...
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Post by bmfjules on Jun 27, 2019 9:34:26 GMT -5
Liam Neeson: When is Tommy Dreamer coming to get this beer back that I've been holding for him?
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Jun 27, 2019 9:38:57 GMT -5
In light of recent events I hope that arena isn't STILL allowing people to come in armed This was 18 years ago before 9/11 lol. They’re definitely not letting people in with weapons. Totally different time.
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Post by willywonka666 on Jun 27, 2019 9:40:19 GMT -5
I think Tommy and anyone else for that matter should share stuff like this-You can't help but wonder what kinds of things others were afraid to talk about that went out and did heinous stuff like Tommy thought about doing. I think the thread title should be amended really, A lot of things cross our minds, but it would be a different thing if he actually had the gun in hand and walked to Paul and then changed his mind
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Post by Dub H on Jun 27, 2019 9:41:00 GMT -5
Jesus Christ. He could’ve just said I wanted to murder Paul Heyman, but wow did he go into detail. I think it was to show how serious and in the bottom he was and not just a show of extreme anger that wasnt literal.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jun 27, 2019 9:46:33 GMT -5
Yeah, kinda at a loss for words on this one.
Depression is a monster
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jun 27, 2019 9:48:38 GMT -5
Jesus Christ. He could’ve just said I wanted to murder Paul Heyman, but wow did he go into detail. I think it was to show how serious and in the bottom he was and not just a show of extreme anger that wasnt literal. Yeah, it’s important to show how real these thoughts can be when you’re suffering from depression and are dealing with an especially bad episode. Without going into detail, I’ve certainly had similar thoughts on my worst days
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 27, 2019 9:56:10 GMT -5
In light of recent events I hope that arena isn't STILL allowing people to come in armed Well the Astrodome has been closed since 2008, so they're not letting anybody in, armed or not.
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Post by Evil Homer on Jun 27, 2019 10:03:50 GMT -5
Then he went home and ate Pizza. thankfully thats what he did , if he had gone through with it as horrible as that would have been for both families of Paul & Tommy , it probably would have been the end of WWE as well
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