I've had times in my life where I was really frustrated, and used fantasy scenarios like this to act out my frustration in my head. They usually end with me mentally telling myself something along the lines of, "WTF, dude," knowing full well that I'd never have the guts to actually do anything like that for real. Hopefully that's all this was, and Tommy's just being overdramatic about it.
This is normal. Everyone has these thoughts, they just don't talk about them. The fact that someone has these thoughts - and then doesn't follow through with them, shows that their decision making processes (controlled by areas of the brain such as the orbitofrontal cortex and the amygdala) are working.
If he had gone through with it, it wouldn't be as a result of mental illness or depression (at least one in seven of us will have depression at some point in our lives, and the murder rates aren't that high), it would be more likely to be a psychosocial disorder or brain injury.
I really commend him for opening up like this. There are way too many people who act on their worst impulses, so to have people out there saying there’s other ways to address these feelings is always useful. There is a very big difference between having murderous intent and actually acting on it.
Unfortunately mental health is so badly stigmatized in western culture, I just kind of expect a bunch of fans shaming him over it.
Things that make sense in pro wrestling do not exist.
Did he really rationally think he was going to shoot Heyman, do the pose and then shoot himself before security got him and/or the feed was cut? Scary stuff.
Arena security aren’t armed, and generally get paid shit. I doubt any of them are rushing a dude with a gun. In a pre 9/11 world, I have no doubt he’d have been able to pull it off if he had wanted to. It wouldn’t have made air, atleast him killing him self wouldn’t have, but it honestly would’ve likely been fairly easy as scary as that is.
I get wanting to kill someone. I get wanting to kill yourself. But shooting someone in the back of the head in front of millions of people, then busting out a wrestling pose before killing myself on camera...I don’t get where that is coming from.
Because where it's coming from is a dark and horrible place, but it's not actually that unusual. A lot of suicidal ideation comes in the form of 'fantasy'; think really f***ed up daydreams where instead of going to a cool place or getting superpowers you just f***ing end your misery. And to that end, spectacle means a lot. I can't speak for exactly what he was feeling, but it sounds to me like the fantasy was about catharsis. About getting his revenge heroically for everything Heyman screwed him for, then ending his own misery, in front of people who would forever remember him and his legacy. He would have gone down in history for it. Certainly not good history, but when you are at your lowest f***ing point, the idea of being eternal is promising, because being broken down and feeling like dirt can overwhelm everything else.
This sort of thing isn't something I have had personally, but have dealt with in ways I'm not going to go into. All I'll really say here is that it's good you don't get where he's coming from, and I think that's something you should be very grateful for. Lives are much, much better off never having to touch something like this.
too real of a post, bravo
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I feel like this might have ruined Tommy Dreamer. Like, wow, there is that documentary on HBO about the cop who was tried for his “thought crimes” for role playing murder and carnibal fantasies because he did prep work to actually make it happen. I mean, Dreamer did prep work. He knew the laws, he had a plan. Like, wow, I hope he doesn’t get in trouble for this.
Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Jun 28, 2019 1:30:28 GMT -5
ECW was one of my favorite promotions. I followed them from 1994 to 2001. From when they became extreme right up until the end. I watched every show. I read every dirt sheet article I could about it and the wrestlers there. I watched all the shoot interviews that I could get my hands on. I even managed to make it out to a handful of their shows thanks to some older friends back then. I had a lot of their shirts, programs and I got those white master tapes too even though my friends and I all recorded every show. I even knew some inside stuff about some things there just from being allowed to hang out before or after a few shows. That’s how much I was into ECW way back when.
All of that said a lot of the wrestlers there were far more invested in ECW than you could possibly imagine. Tommy Dreamer most of all. He put his life on the line for that promotion so many times. He put his money and his family’s money into it when he could’ve been making bank in WCW. Paul Heyman was ECW. Tommy trusted him with every part of his being. Literally.
I get that feeling of betrayal. I get going to such a dark place. Tommy probably felt like wrestling ruined his life and he was going to ruin it for everyone else. Insert that line about some people just wanting to watch the world burn. Tommy would’ve ended Paul, ended himself, ended Mania and possibly ended WWE. It doesn’t matter if the feed would’ve been cut. It’s Mania. There are photographers and video cameras everywhere. The images would’ve gotten out and about. It would’ve been absolutely horrific and the damage done would’ve been immeasurable.
I’m glad Tommy can put those feelings behind him. I don’t think there’s anything to be concerned about with him now. He’s moved on and he has a good family life. It’s a chilling confession. Maybe it will help someone suffering with depression to read this article. If it helps just one person from doing something horrible I’d say that’s a win.