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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Jul 20, 2019 22:14:39 GMT -5
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Post by dav on Jul 20, 2019 22:20:16 GMT -5
I hope Michael Chiklis is involved somehow. He deserved much better movies.
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Post by Cyno on Jul 20, 2019 22:31:59 GMT -5
I want to see John Krasinski as Reed Richards.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 22:36:38 GMT -5
I want to see John Krasinski as Reed Richards. And Rainn Wilson as Doctor Doom. In all seriousness, I'm actually down for Krasinski to be Reed.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jul 20, 2019 22:39:31 GMT -5
I want to see John Krasinski as Reed Richards. This is genius casting.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 20, 2019 22:49:18 GMT -5
My dream cast would be:
John Krasinski as Reed Emily Blunt as Sue Joe Keery as Johnny John Cena as Ben Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Doom
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jul 20, 2019 22:59:07 GMT -5
I'd still like to see the movie actually set in the 1960's.
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Post by Stu on Jul 20, 2019 23:08:14 GMT -5
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Doom Regardless, MCU needs to be smart about introducing Dr. Doom. I think Victor Von Doom should briefly appear in the first movie, but become Dr. Doom in the second. Too much of the movie would be devoted to the team's origin and that wouldn't do Doom any favors. He needs a slow burn, like Thanos.
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Post by Stu on Jul 20, 2019 23:13:56 GMT -5
Spider-Man spoiler: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}If JK Simmons can do it, why not Evans?! {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}There's a difference. We can pretend the first Jameson doesn't exist. But as far as Evans goes, we'd have two people in the same universe who look alike. Michael B. Jordan would've worked if he hadn't appeared in Black Panther.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 20, 2019 23:15:23 GMT -5
I am not sure if I'd rather get a Reed Richards who is acknowledged onscreen as autistic or not. On one hand, it'd be rep, and that's nice. On the other, Reed Richards is not exactly a sympathetic depiction of autism in terms of... I don't even know where to start.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 20, 2019 23:23:20 GMT -5
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Doom Regardless, MCU needs to be smart about introducing Dr. Doom. I think Victor Von Doom should briefly appear in the first movie, but become Dr. Doom in the second. Too much of the movie would be devoted to the team's origin and that wouldn't do Doom any favors. He needs a slow burn, like Thanos. I honestly want them to take a more Zemo route at first. Imagine Sokovia after Ultron. They're scared, desperate, vulnerable. Enter Doom, who builds Latveria from the ashes of Sokovia, promising to forever protect them from the outside world. Outside of the Accords, we have no idea what's going on after it all went down. I am not sure if I'd rather get a Reed Richards who is acknowledged onscreen as autistic or not. On one hand, it'd be rep, and that's nice. On the other, Reed Richards is not exactly a sympathetic depiction of autism in terms of... I don't even know where to start. As a father of autistic children, I can tell you that the MCU already has an autistic hero whether they're aware of it or not. Peter Parker in the MCU, if he were real, would 100% be on the autism spectrum.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 20, 2019 23:27:44 GMT -5
Regardless, MCU needs to be smart about introducing Dr. Doom. I think Victor Von Doom should briefly appear in the first movie, but become Dr. Doom in the second. Too much of the movie would be devoted to the team's origin and that wouldn't do Doom any favors. He needs a slow burn, like Thanos. I honestly want them to take a more Zemo route at first. Imagine Sokovia after Ultron. They're scared, desperate, vulnerable. Enter Doom, who builds Latveria from the ashes of Sokovia, promising to forever protect them from the outside world. Outside of the Accords, we have no idea what's going on after it all went down. I am not sure if I'd rather get a Reed Richards who is acknowledged onscreen as autistic or not. On one hand, it'd be rep, and that's nice. On the other, Reed Richards is not exactly a sympathetic depiction of autism in terms of... I don't even know where to start. As a father of autistic children, I can tell you that the MCU already has an autistic hero whether they're aware of it or not. Peter Parker in the MCU, if he were real, would 100% be on the autism spectrum. I could buy Peter as being on the spectrum, sure, and/or someone else, Reed is just the only canon one I am aware of off the top of my head, comics-wise.
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Post by DSR on Jul 21, 2019 0:24:04 GMT -5
Spider-Man spoiler: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}If JK Simmons can do it, why not Evans?! {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}There's a difference. We can pretend the first Jameson doesn't exist. But as far as Evans goes, we'd have two people in the same universe who look alike. Michael B. Jordan would've worked if he hadn't appeared in Black Panther. Eh, we have people in our own universe who look alike. Compare Chad Smith of Red Hot Chili Peppers to Will Ferrell. Or Elias Koteas to Christopher Meloni.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jul 21, 2019 1:52:55 GMT -5
First MCU flop?
The FF are Marvel's lamest superhero team, don and haven't had a single good movie yet. The only interesting thing about them is Dr Doom.
This could be the first flop of the MCU.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 21, 2019 2:05:59 GMT -5
First MCU flop? The FF are Marvel's lamest superhero team, don and haven't had a single good movie yet. The only interesting thing about them is Dr Doom. This could be the first flop of the MCU. Not to be pedantic (too much), but Incredible Hulk was the first flop of the MCU. Only the fact that it had a relatively small advertising budget compared to similarly budgeted movies allowed it to just about break even. Still, I don't think Fantastic Four will flop. Between Marvel's overall success rate and a clamouring fan base eagerly awaiting a good FF movie, I'm pretty sure it'll do good business.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jul 21, 2019 2:17:49 GMT -5
First MCU flop? The FF are Marvel's lamest superhero team, don and haven't had a single good movie yet. The only interesting thing about them is Dr Doom. This could be the first flop of the MCU. Not to be pedantic (too much), but Incredible Hulk was the first flop of the MCU. Only the fact that it had a relatively small advertising budget compared to similarly budgeted movies allowed it to just about break even. Still, I don't think Fantastic Four will flop. Between Marvel's overall success rate and a clamouring fan base eagerly awaiting a good FF movie, I'm pretty sure it'll do good business. I didn't know Hulk flopped although it doesnt surprise me that Hulk did poor. For me, FF seems a risk. They don't seem to have much casual appeal, come across as very dated and cheesy and have the stink of the other FF movies to wash off. Plus for me at least, theyre pretty lame.
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Post by eJm on Jul 21, 2019 2:22:40 GMT -5
Not to be pedantic (too much), but Incredible Hulk was the first flop of the MCU. Only the fact that it had a relatively small advertising budget compared to similarly budgeted movies allowed it to just about break even. Still, I don't think Fantastic Four will flop. Between Marvel's overall success rate and a clamouring fan base eagerly awaiting a good FF movie, I'm pretty sure it'll do good business. I didn't know Hulk flopped although it doesnt surprise me that Hulk did poor. For me, FF seems a risk. They don't seem to have much casual appeal, come across as very dated and cheesy and have the stink of the other FF movies to wash off. Plus for me at least, theyre pretty lame. I mean, I’d say a bigger risk was adapting Iron Man in the first place, a character that at the time was a bit player in the mainstream minds and known to other fans for a mediocre cartoon and...really, not much else. I feel like there’s an expected level of quality now from the MCU akin to something like Pixar. Put the Day of the Dead to another studio, you get the alright Book of Life. Put that concept to Pixar and you get Coco. Same here, really. But it depends on casting, direction and the like and by the time it comes out it’ll be, what, 6 years since the reboot and a decade plus since the original one? That’s enough time for things to fade.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jul 21, 2019 2:24:15 GMT -5
First MCU flop? The FF are Marvel's lamest superhero team, don and haven't had a single good movie yet. The only interesting thing about them is Dr Doom. This could be the first flop of the MCU. If something from Phase Four is flopping then I'm putting my money on Eternals. I mean I doubt it will, I think Marvel Studios has built up enough good will that most average movie goers will give it a chance, and I'm sure the people producing it will make something fun of it. But if this had come out a couple of years ago, I think the concept would be just too esoteric to really find an audience.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Jul 21, 2019 2:24:33 GMT -5
My MCU F4 John Krasinski as Mister Fantastic Emily Blunt as Invisible Woman Dave Franco as Human Torch Nick Offerman as The Thing
The villain for the first movie would either be the Puppet Master or Mole Man (lots of potential for easter eggs if amongst the Moloids there was a bunch of Marvel's old monsters)
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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Jul 21, 2019 2:28:56 GMT -5
Not to be pedantic (too much), but Incredible Hulk was the first flop of the MCU. Only the fact that it had a relatively small advertising budget compared to similarly budgeted movies allowed it to just about break even. Still, I don't think Fantastic Four will flop. Between Marvel's overall success rate and a clamouring fan base eagerly awaiting a good FF movie, I'm pretty sure it'll do good business. I didn't know Hulk flopped although it doesnt surprise me that Hulk did poor. For me, FF seems a risk. They don't seem to have much casual appeal, come across as very dated and cheesy and have the stink of the other FF movies to wash off. Plus for me at least, theyre pretty lame. I mean, as far as casual appeal, NONE of the MCU heroes really had casual appeal until the movies made them huge. Iron Man and Thor were c-tier. Cap was boring. Black Widow and Hawkeye not even on casual radar. Guardians of the Galaxy were barely on comic fans radars. The Avengers a c-tier Justice League. The MCU single handed turned that around and made the Marvel heroes just as well known, and now bigger box office draws, than the VERY well known DC heroes. 20 years ago if you told me there was an Avengers movie and a Justice League movie, I wouldn’t have thought twice about which one I would see and which one I’d skip. If you told me there were FOUR Avengers movie and Justice League killed the DC movie universe, I’d have called you a liar. I have nothing but faith in Feige and the MCU to make F4 amazing. And I feel like we’ll be asking ourselves in 10-15 years, “Is Blink Marvel’s first flop?” And the answer will still be no. As long as they keep putting the same love and attention into these movies.
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