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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 21, 2019 2:34:51 GMT -5
First MCU flop? The FF are Marvel's lamest superhero team, don and haven't had a single good movie yet. The only interesting thing about them is Dr Doom. This could be the first flop of the MCU. Nope. If freaking Ant-Man didn't flop, no Marvel film with charismatic leads will flop. It just doesn't happen.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jul 21, 2019 3:28:00 GMT -5
Bums me out to see people think the FF are lame. They were always my favorite comic book team.
Secondly, what’s up with the constant Krasinski/Blunt fantasy casting? Do they have some connection to the FF that I don’t know about?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 21, 2019 3:34:51 GMT -5
First MCU flop? The FF are Marvel's lamest superhero team, don and haven't had a single good movie yet. The only interesting thing about them is Dr Doom. This could be the first flop of the MCU. If Ant Man didn't flop, why would this?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 21, 2019 3:36:46 GMT -5
First MCU flop? The FF are Marvel's lamest superhero team, don and haven't had a single good movie yet. The only interesting thing about them is Dr Doom. This could be the first flop of the MCU. Nope. If freaking Ant-Man didn't flop, no Marvel film with charismatic leads will flop. It just doesn't happen. Lol I should have read the 2nd page as I wrote the same thing Yea, if Ant-Man didn't flop I don't see this doing so since F4 is a team a lot of people know. You also know Marvel is going to get someone strong to portray the F4 family so i'm not worried at all especially if you consider they will be apart of the universe moving forward with a possible Galactus sighting
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jul 21, 2019 4:23:55 GMT -5
First MCU flop? The FF are Marvel's lamest superhero team, don and haven't had a single good movie yet. The only interesting thing about them is Dr Doom. This could be the first flop of the MCU. If Ant Man didn't flop, why would this? Antman didnt have the stench of the past F4 movies. Or the reputation of been lame dorks, and came at arguably the peak of MCU. Will phase 4 keep it up with two of the most popular characters done, the Thanos arc wrapped up? Probably, but the MCU bubble is gonna burst at some point and F4 is the most likely flop. X-Men wont, theyre cool and most X movies were good.
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Post by eJm on Jul 21, 2019 4:33:37 GMT -5
If Ant Man didn't flop, why would this? Antman didnt have the stench of the past F4 movies. Or the reputation of been lame dorks, and came at arguably the peak of MCU. Will phase 4 keep it up with two of the most popular characters done, the Thanos arc wrapped up? Probably, but the MCU bubble is gonna burst at some point and F4 is the most likely flop. X-Men wont, theyre cool and most X movies were good. The best comparison for this is Spider-Man, to be honest. Yes, he was still a popular character but dude survived 3 movies, movies that whilst they did well aren’t exactly highly regarded and two being an entire reboot. Because at least people somewhat remember ASM2 as bad (I thought it was alright but I’m a benefit of the doubt sort of guy), nobody remembers F4ntastic or whatever it was because nobody saw it. And Homecoming came, what, 3 years after that movie?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 21, 2019 4:43:09 GMT -5
If Ant Man didn't flop, why would this? Antman didnt have the stench of the past F4 movies. Or the reputation of been lame dorks, and came at arguably the peak of MCU. Will phase 4 keep it up with two of the most popular characters done, the Thanos arc wrapped up? Probably, but the MCU bubble is gonna burst at some point and F4 is the most likely flop. X-Men wont, theyre cool and most X movies were good. Stench of what tho? F4 has had 2 movies in like 10 years and while the last one flopped it is hardly a franchise that has been run into the ground. Spider-Man had more movies than F4 when they put him in the MCU and his movies came with varying success. The last two X-Men movies have not been received well so your basis of "stench" is far-fetched And your reasoning about Ant-Man not flopping is backwards. Them at their peak throwing out an absolute no name is a move that was bold and could have backfired. Everyone predicted Ant-Man would flop, same with Guardians of the Galaxy. F4 is a better property than both of them on their best day before they came into the MCU and the fans are dying for a good F4 movie especially if we assume they bring are a big focus of the future and can add Galactus as the new big bad and Silver Surfer and his cosmic powers to the MCU
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 21, 2019 4:45:04 GMT -5
Antman didnt have the stench of the past F4 movies. Or the reputation of been lame dorks, and came at arguably the peak of MCU. Will phase 4 keep it up with two of the most popular characters done, the Thanos arc wrapped up? Probably, but the MCU bubble is gonna burst at some point and F4 is the most likely flop. X-Men wont, theyre cool and most X movies were good. The best comparison for this is Spider-Man, to be honest. Yes, he was still a popular character but dude survived 3 movies, movies that whilst they did well aren’t exactly highly regarded and two being an entire reboot.Because at least people somewhat remember ASM2 as bad (I thought it was alright but I’m a benefit of the doubt sort of guy), nobody remembers F4ntastic or whatever it was because nobody saw it. And Homecoming came, what, 3 years after that movie? Exactly my point and you made mine while I was typing and I didn't get to see yours. Add X-Men to the list same like Spider-Man where the last 2 movies was a miss after hitting on the first two but no one will complain when they come in Adding F4 is a big move due to what they can bring for the future
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Post by cosmo on Jul 21, 2019 4:45:51 GMT -5
I'm still convinced that after Avengers Tower was sold in Spidey: Homecoming, it'll be converted into the Baxter Building.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 21, 2019 4:46:52 GMT -5
If Ant Man didn't flop, why would this? Antman didnt have the stench of the past F4 movies. Or the reputation of been lame dorks, and came at arguably the peak of MCU. Will phase 4 keep it up with two of the most popular characters done, the Thanos arc wrapped up? Probably, but the MCU bubble is gonna burst at some point and F4 is the most likely flop. X-Men wont, theyre cool and most X movies were good. Maybe half the X movies are widely considered good, with the last one being a complete box office failure and the one before that not much better. Also, the stench of Amazing Spider-Man 2 didn't hurt Homecoming in the slightest. I'm honestly not sure where this "flop" idea is coming from. This studio has built a dedicated global audience who just want to come along for the ride, and they've almost always cast super charismatic leads to carry the films. At worst it makes $350 million domestic. At worst.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jul 21, 2019 4:47:34 GMT -5
Are we really determining if a movie will bomb based on if the characters are cool or not?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 21, 2019 4:48:40 GMT -5
The rate things are going, they could make a movie about NFL SuperPro and make half a billion dollars.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 21, 2019 4:49:41 GMT -5
Are we really determining if a movie will bomb based on if the characters are cool or not? The Jon Peters approach.
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Post by eJm on Jul 21, 2019 4:52:24 GMT -5
The rate things are going, they could make a movie about NFL SuperPro and make half a billion dollars. I want a US-1 movie myself.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 21, 2019 4:53:24 GMT -5
Antman didnt have the stench of the past F4 movies. Or the reputation of been lame dorks, and came at arguably the peak of MCU. Will phase 4 keep it up with two of the most popular characters done, the Thanos arc wrapped up? Probably, but the MCU bubble is gonna burst at some point and F4 is the most likely flop. X-Men wont, theyre cool and most X movies were good. Maybe half the X movies are widely considered good, with the last one being a complete box office failure and the one before that not much better. Also, the stench of Amazing Spider-Man 2 didn't hurt Homecoming in the slightest. I'm honestly not sure where this "flop" idea is coming from. This studio has built a dedicated global audience who just want to come along for the ride, and they've almost always cast super charismatic leads to carry the films. At worst it makes $350 million domestic. At worst. People have been predicting flops since Guardians of the Galaxy. Unlike them and Ant-Man, F4 is nowhere near a risk as they was and expectations will be fairly high for their eventual movie or roles in the MCU. Until people start getting tired of the movies which at this point doesn't seem to be the case, a flop is really the last thing on their mind and even then if a flop did come it's not like you're shutting down operations. To have one flip in however many films is nothing to put your head down about
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Post by Prince Petty on Jul 21, 2019 4:56:29 GMT -5
I've seen someone suggest that they should do a period Fantastic Four, set in the 1960s, and I realised that's just about the only thing about this that could excite me. I've never cared about the Fantastic Four, and actively dislike Reed Richards as a character, and with the track record F4 movies have, it's incredibly hard to see this news as a good thing.
But I'm happy to just ignore MCU movies that don't float my boat. I never saw Doctor Strange, and won't see the sequel either. And I probably won't watch the Blade reboot (not a fan of that character either).
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 21, 2019 5:01:37 GMT -5
I've seen someone suggest that they should do a period Fantastic Four, set in the 1960s, and I realised that's just about the only thing about this that could excite me. I've never cared about the Fantastic Four, and actively dislike Reed Richards as a character, and with the track record F4 movies have, it's incredibly hard to see this news as a good thing. But I'm happy to just ignore MCU movies that don't float my boat. I never saw Doctor Strange, and won't see the sequel either. And I probably won't watch the Blade reboot (not a fan of that character either). Doctor Strange was a good movie
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jul 21, 2019 5:57:29 GMT -5
My boy John better get Reed after not getting Cap!
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Post by mattperiolat on Jul 21, 2019 6:44:12 GMT -5
Personally, I’d want Chiklis back as Thing more, even if it’s all VO work. And truth be told, much as I want this, I think I’d rather see a Doom solo movie first.
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Post by Raskovnik on Jul 21, 2019 6:58:20 GMT -5
If Ant Man didn't flop, why would this? Antman didnt have the stench of the past F4 movies. Or the reputation of been lame dorks, and came at arguably the peak of MCU. Will phase 4 keep it up with two of the most popular characters done, the Thanos arc wrapped up? Probably, but the MCU bubble is gonna burst at some point and F4 is the most likely flop. X-Men wont, theyre cool and most X movies were good. I think you're confusing you personally thinking the Fantastic 4 are lame with the entire world thinking they're lame, which is silly. Besides, a superhero who has historically been derided as being really lame, Aquaman, went on to become the highest-grossing DC superhero movie ever so I'm not sure how good that argument is even if everyone actually did think the Fantastic 4 were lame, which I'm not convinced is the case. Also, there have also been people forecasting the entire MCU (and superhero movie) "bubble" bursting since like...ever, but 10 years on Endgame just became the highest grossing film of all time. These movies are their own genre now, like rom coms or horror movies, and very likely here to stay. Some may do better or worse but I highly doubt there's going to any bursting going on.
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