Ultimo Gallos
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jul 21, 2019 18:34:36 GMT -5
The rate things are going, they could make a movie about NFL SuperPro and make half a billion dollars. I want a US-1 movie myself. So does Bendis."US-1 is the best series Marvel had in the 80s!" Would love a Team America/Thunder Riders cameo or whatever. But I doubt even most of the people working at Marvel rememeber them. |
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Post by schizo on Jul 21, 2019 19:23:28 GMT -5
Yeah, and? Doesn't mean I can't like the movies anyway.
In a movie that is supposed to be selling the Fantastic Four, a major action sequence is caused by one of their members being mopey and irresponsible, and they are cheered for cleaning up the mess they caused. Do you not understand why that is an issue? Ok, I don't follow. What exactlly is the big issue here? They got cheered for saving lives |
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jul 21, 2019 19:25:54 GMT -5
In a movie that is supposed to be selling the Fantastic Four, a major action sequence is caused by one of their members being mopey and irresponsible, and they are cheered for cleaning up the mess they caused. Do you not understand why that is an issue? Ok, I don't follow. What exactlly is the big issue here? They got cheered for saving lives They cause the situation in the first place. If I set fire to a building accidentally and then pull the alarm, should I be praised? |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 21, 2019 19:28:08 GMT -5
Shame they wasted Mads Mikkelsen in Doctor Strange. He'd be a fantastic Doctor Doom. I wouldn't say wasted at all but I do like the Nikolaj Coster-Waldau idea as Doom. I feel like he will be a strong Doctor Doom and he obviously has the acting jobs to show the man before he became Doctor Doom |
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Post by schizo on Jul 21, 2019 19:30:05 GMT -5
Ok, I don't follow. What exactlly is the big issue here? They got cheered for saving lives They cause the situation in the first place. If I set fire to a building accidentally and then pull the alarm, should I be praised? Well, if you wanna do a fair comparison, if you put out said fire yourself, and no one got hurt. Than yeah? |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 21, 2019 19:33:08 GMT -5
Ok, I don't follow. What exactlly is the big issue here? They got cheered for saving lives They cause the situation in the first place. If I set fire to a building accidentally and then pull the alarm, should I be praised? Iron Man and Banner created Ultron and nearly doomed people Iron Man suits was going to be used to take over The Avengers themselves have caused a ton of damage in saving the world You can make mistakes and still be seen as a hero |
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jul 21, 2019 19:39:52 GMT -5
They cause the situation in the first place. If I set fire to a building accidentally and then pull the alarm, should I be praised? Iron Man and Banner created Ultron and nearly doomed people Iron Man suits was going to be used to take over The Avengers themselves have caused a ton of damage in saving the world You can make mistakes and still be seen as a hero Except Tony being very aware of the threat he created was a big plot point in the third and fourth movies. I don’t get how this is an argument. The Fantastic Four recklessly endangered lives because one of them had an emotional episode. They salvaged the situation at considerable financial cost, but because no one died they deserve to be praised? This would simply never happen in the modern MCU because the writers are way, way smarter than that. I’m shocked I’m having to speak up about it here. |
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Post by chrom on Jul 21, 2019 19:41:48 GMT -5
Would like them to make Reed a genius badass and remind everyone why he's the smartest man in Marvel instead of a witless tool they've made him
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 21, 2019 19:52:50 GMT -5
Would like them to make Reed a genius badass and remind everyone why he's the smartest man in Marvel instead of a witless tool they've made him I'd like to see them bring The Maker in somehow |
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Post by Cyno on Jul 21, 2019 19:52:54 GMT -5
If Ant Man didn't flop, why would this? Antman didnt have the stench of the past F4 movies. Or the reputation of been lame dorks, and came at arguably the peak of MCU. Will phase 4 keep it up with two of the most popular characters done, the Thanos arc wrapped up? Probably, but the MCU bubble is gonna burst at some point and F4 is the most likely flop. X-Men wont, theyre cool and most X movies were good. Are you kidding? "A good Fantastic Four movie in the MCU!" would, if anything, be a huge selling point. Disney and its handling of the MCU has earned a lot of trust from comic book nerds and casual moviegoers both. Taking that trust and using it to save a wronged franchise already has a ton of the former salivating about the possibilities. And the latter will go to the theaters because Disney is aces at marketing and if the movie's good, word-of-mouth and critical praise will sell the movie on its own.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 21, 2019 20:06:01 GMT -5
Iron Man and Banner created Ultron and nearly doomed people Iron Man suits was going to be used to take over The Avengers themselves have caused a ton of damage in saving the world You can make mistakes and still be seen as a hero Except Tony being very aware of the threat he created was a big plot point in the third and fourth movies. I don’t get how this is an argument. The Fantastic Four recklessly endangered lives because one of them had an emotional episode. They salvaged the situation at considerable financial cost, but because no one died they deserve to be praised? This would simply never happen in the modern MCU because the writers are way, way smarter than that. I’m shocked I’m having to speak up about it here. Being aware doesn't mean he should not be blamed because of his own critical error if we are going by your criteria. Tony was having a crisis after the Avengers movie and his paranoia got him to make Ultron along with having the suits as "protection". That's an "emotional episode" but in a different perspective |
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jul 21, 2019 20:37:53 GMT -5
I can’t believe some of the arguments against the FF (Film and team both) going on in here.
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Post by cosmo on Jul 21, 2019 20:44:00 GMT -5
Yeah, and? Doesn't mean I can't like the movies anyway.
In a movie that is supposed to be selling the Fantastic Four, a major action sequence is caused by one of their members being mopey and irresponsible, and they are cheered for cleaning up the mess they caused. Do you not understand why that is an issue?
Yeah, I understand totally. Doesn't stop me from liking the movie.
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Post by wildojinx on Jul 21, 2019 21:55:38 GMT -5
I think Terry Crews would be a good Ben Grimm. He could pull off both the serious side of the character and the bruiser side.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jul 21, 2019 22:18:41 GMT -5
I'm excited, but I kind of hope for one thing.
Please no Doom.
What I mean by that is the well is already a little poisoned with the F4, it doesn't help that Doom was featured in both previous attempts.
Give it time. Not only to let the audience ease into the F4, but it would allow them to have some of the best stories of the F4, them having fun romps against the rest of their rogue's gallery.
That, and I'm kind of the opinion Doom should be built up slowly. Not Mandarin slowly. But slowly. If casted and written correctly, Doom could be a major player for the MCU at large. No need to rush right into him in the F4's first outing (for the third time).
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jul 22, 2019 1:04:07 GMT -5
I'm excited, but I kind of hope for one thing. Please no Doom. What I mean by that is the well is already a little poisoned with the F4, it doesn't help that Doom was featured in both previous attempts. Give it time. Not only to let the audience ease into the F4, but it would allow them to have some of the best stories of the F4, them having fun romps against the rest of their rogue's gallery. That, and I'm kind of the opinion Doom should be built up slowly. Not Mandarin slowly. But slowly. If casted and written correctly, Doom could be a major player for the MCU at large. No need to rush right into him in the F4's first outing (for the third time). To a certain degree I agree with you about Doom. I want Doom to be built up slowly and perhaps even save him as the new threat after Thanos. A Marvel Ultimate Alliance film with Doom as the real global threat who wants to rule the world is a great story. Plenty of time to build him up to that level, allows the audience to connect with the Fantastic Four, X-Men are most likely established again, and viola there will be another huge Marvel film that could potentially surpass Endgame. |
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Jul 22, 2019 1:30:02 GMT -5
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 22, 2019 2:04:16 GMT -5
Would like them to make Reed a genius badass and remind everyone why he's the smartest man in Marvel instead of a witless tool they've made him I guess it's up for debate if he's the outright smartest, given sometimes Pym seems to outclass even him, but he's definitely top tier intelligent. I would like to see him step into the void created by Stark's absence, given movie Stark is honestly probably smarter than comic one is, at least relative to the universe he inhabited. |
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jul 22, 2019 2:59:25 GMT -5
Reed and Doom are the smartest human beings on Earth according to the old Marvel Universe trading cards. They both rank 6 out of 7 on the intelligence scale. (Stark, Banner and Xavier are all 5s for example.) The only characters that I remember reaching the max score of 7 were omnipotent/galactic characters like Galactus, etc.   |
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Post by clifford on Jul 22, 2019 8:55:12 GMT -5
How did they not announce Fantastic 4 as the official last movie of Phase 4 of the MCU? Announce it for early 2022. It made so much sense!!
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