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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 10, 2019 17:10:53 GMT -5
I have a distrust of people who claim to hate Rock. Nobody has a bad word to say about him except Vin Diesel and Tyrese, and their motivations are based entirely on their wallets, while Rock himself comes across like a buff, Samoan Mr. Rogers. If he has a dark side he must be doing some KGB-level shit to make people who know about it disappear. Rock is someone I've always suspected was very much like Robin Williams in that he always seems so outgoing and vibrant, but there's some sad shit under the surface. A lot of people for some reason are just distrusting of those who keep their sadness and anger private, because most folks wear it more on their sleeve. It's not Dwayne Johnson's responsibility to make his demons public, though. If all he puts out there is the best version of himself who treats others with kindness, that's all that should matter. Yeah, when he talked about his depression I saw some parallels with Williams.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 10, 2019 17:11:52 GMT -5
Mick's issue was that Rock never came to check on him after the match, despite just about everyone else dropping by to make sure he was alright. Mick put a lot of that resentment on himself for not just confronting him, but he'd been under the impression he could maybe have one last feud with Rock, and didn't want to toss out that fuel prematurely, a reason he freely admitted was idiotic. For Rock's part, he apparently was immediately apologetic and said he had no memory of after that match, which gels with Rock saying he was terrified during his first top run because he was so young and being pushed so hard, and waiting for the other shoe to drop. Wouldn't shock me if pretty much everything after the first chairshot was practically autopilot for him, which has to be terrifying in its own right, to know that you have the capacity for that kind of brutality in you. Still, the gist is basically right. Rock didn't fight Mick on it and immediately took the blame when Mick told him, and Foley forgave him after and buried the hatchet. Yea, figured it had to be something to that effect That whole thing was f***ed from jump when you consider Mick's kids was in the audience for that. But yeah, that is the real only negative you heard on his name Only other thing I can think of is Jericho and Bully Ray saying they had a match, think it was a tag team match and they said some spot to The Rock and Rock said, "The Rock doesn't do that" and they looked at him funny. I think the spot was supposed to be something like they (Dudley Boys) trip up Rock when he was in the ring and Rock was like nah that doesn't fit my character which is one of the only times i've heard anyone say Rock said no to anything Yeah, he's apparently said that he was sometimes protective of the character, given he felt like he was walking on eggshells with how Rock was supposed to be "cool", and sometimes pretty loathe to show vulnerability on some things, but he loosened up on that over time, and that he said he wished he could have done Rock 'n Sock over again because he would have been game for more things. Which, I mean, if I was like in my 20s and I had this MASSIVE push, I'd be waiting for it to come crashing down, too. I don't know that I wouldn't feel that way now, even.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 10, 2019 17:18:22 GMT -5
Yea, figured it had to be something to that effect That whole thing was f***ed from jump when you consider Mick's kids was in the audience for that. But yeah, that is the real only negative you heard on his name Only other thing I can think of is Jericho and Bully Ray saying they had a match, think it was a tag team match and they said some spot to The Rock and Rock said, "The Rock doesn't do that" and they looked at him funny. I think the spot was supposed to be something like they (Dudley Boys) trip up Rock when he was in the ring and Rock was like nah that doesn't fit my character which is one of the only times i've heard anyone say Rock said no to anything Yeah, he's apparently said that he was sometimes protective of the character, given he felt like he was walking on eggshells with how Rock was supposed to be "cool", and sometimes pretty loathe to show vulnerability on some things, but he loosened up on that over time, and that he said he wished he could have done Rock 'n Sock over again because he would have been game for more things. Which, I mean, if I was like in my 20s and I had this MASSIVE push, I'd be waiting for it to come crashing down, too. I don't know that I wouldn't feel that way now, even. Yea, and even then could you blame him? Coming up he had people trying to hold him down and when he made it, you had to fight to keep your spot. Hell, Stone Cold told Big Show to his face i'm not losing to you, the people came here to see Stone Cold Steve Austin. Rock without question took no prisoners on the mic but he was giving in the ring. Crazy how the mind of a top guy works and what it could do for you. Austin was fueled by paranoia, HHH with his ego, The Rock with expectation etc
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Post by Shark on Sept 10, 2019 17:57:47 GMT -5
Yeah, he's apparently said that he was sometimes protective of the character, given he felt like he was walking on eggshells with how Rock was supposed to be "cool", and sometimes pretty loathe to show vulnerability on some things, but he loosened up on that over time, and that he said he wished he could have done Rock 'n Sock over again because he would have been game for more things. Which, I mean, if I was like in my 20s and I had this MASSIVE push, I'd be waiting for it to come crashing down, too. I don't know that I wouldn't feel that way now, even. Yea, and even then could you blame him? Coming up he had people trying to hold him down and when he made it, you had to fight to keep your spot. Hell, Stone Cold told Big Show to his face i'm not losing to you, the people came here to see Stone Cold Steve Austin. Rock without question took no prisoners on the mic but he was giving in the ring. Crazy how the mind of a top guy works and what it could do for you. Austin was fueled by paranoia, HHH with his ego, The Rock with expectation etc I honestly think Rock is the most giving top guy I've ever seen. Guy had the clout to just refuse to do any job, but he was always seemingly willing to take a pin to help get a guy over.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 10, 2019 18:11:40 GMT -5
Yea, and even then could you blame him? Coming up he had people trying to hold him down and when he made it, you had to fight to keep your spot. Hell, Stone Cold told Big Show to his face i'm not losing to you, the people came here to see Stone Cold Steve Austin. Rock without question took no prisoners on the mic but he was giving in the ring. Crazy how the mind of a top guy works and what it could do for you. Austin was fueled by paranoia, HHH with his ego, The Rock with expectation etc I honestly think Rock is the most giving top guy I've ever seen. Guy had the clout to just refuse to do any job, but he was always seemingly willing to take a pin to help get a guy over. Him and Randy Orton are two of the top guys I always think of who are very giving even when they have no reason to be
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Sept 10, 2019 23:21:18 GMT -5
Yea, the craziest stuff on his name is him taking liberties with Mick during their Rumble match in which he went over the number of chair shots he was supposed to. I think Mick said he apologized after he found out Mick was mad because he didn't know or forgot the number of chair shots Other then that, you're not going to find a dude as giving as he was in the ring for someone in his position. Even with the HHH/HBK jealousy factor, him and HHH still had great chemistry Mick's issue was that Rock never came to check on him after the match, despite just about everyone else dropping by to make sure he was alright. Mick put a lot of that resentment on himself for not just confronting him, but he'd been under the impression he could maybe have one last feud with Rock, and didn't want to toss out that fuel prematurely, a reason he freely admitted was idiotic. For Rock's part, he apparently was immediately apologetic and said he had no memory of after that match, which gels with Rock saying he was terrified during his first top run because he was so young and being pushed so hard, and waiting for the other shoe to drop. Wouldn't shock me if pretty much everything after the first chairshot was practically autopilot for him, which has to be terrifying in its own right, to know that you have the capacity for that kind of brutality in you. Still, the gist is basically right. Rock didn't fight Mick on it and immediately took the blame when Mick told him, and Foley forgave him after and buried the hatchet. I could've sworn in the Beyond The Mat documentary it showed Rock checking on Mick after the match? It wasn't a lengthy moment or anything, but he did quickly walk in to see how he was doing. Unless my memory is wrong on that account.
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Post by thetower52 on Sept 11, 2019 0:06:12 GMT -5
Mick's issue was that Rock never came to check on him after the match, despite just about everyone else dropping by to make sure he was alright. Mick put a lot of that resentment on himself for not just confronting him, but he'd been under the impression he could maybe have one last feud with Rock, and didn't want to toss out that fuel prematurely, a reason he freely admitted was idiotic. For Rock's part, he apparently was immediately apologetic and said he had no memory of after that match, which gels with Rock saying he was terrified during his first top run because he was so young and being pushed so hard, and waiting for the other shoe to drop. Wouldn't shock me if pretty much everything after the first chairshot was practically autopilot for him, which has to be terrifying in its own right, to know that you have the capacity for that kind of brutality in you. Still, the gist is basically right. Rock didn't fight Mick on it and immediately took the blame when Mick told him, and Foley forgave him after and buried the hatchet. I could've sworn in the Beyond The Mat documentary it showed Rock checking on Mick after the match? It wasn't a lengthy moment or anything, but he did quickly walk in to see how he was doing. Unless my memory is wrong on that account. I think that scene might of been rock checking on Foley after hell in the cell
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Post by realist on Sept 11, 2019 6:15:46 GMT -5
Mick's issue was that Rock never came to check on him after the match, despite just about everyone else dropping by to make sure he was alright. Mick put a lot of that resentment on himself for not just confronting him, but he'd been under the impression he could maybe have one last feud with Rock, and didn't want to toss out that fuel prematurely, a reason he freely admitted was idiotic. For Rock's part, he apparently was immediately apologetic and said he had no memory of after that match, which gels with Rock saying he was terrified during his first top run because he was so young and being pushed so hard, and waiting for the other shoe to drop. Wouldn't shock me if pretty much everything after the first chairshot was practically autopilot for him, which has to be terrifying in its own right, to know that you have the capacity for that kind of brutality in you. Still, the gist is basically right. Rock didn't fight Mick on it and immediately took the blame when Mick told him, and Foley forgave him after and buried the hatchet. I could've sworn in the Beyond The Mat documentary it showed Rock checking on Mick after the match? It wasn't a lengthy moment or anything, but he did quickly walk in to see how he was doing. Unless my memory is wrong on that account. I know the scene you're talking about because I was always a bit perplexed by that as well. I just chalked it up to Mick being so screwed up after the match that he probably had no recollection of The Rock checking on him after the match. Also, he probably thought that Rock should have called him at home a few times to see how he was recovering. Again, this is just my speculation.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 11, 2019 9:06:19 GMT -5
Yea, the craziest stuff on his name is him taking liberties with Mick during their Rumble match in which he went over the number of chair shots he was supposed to. I think Mick said he apologized after he found out Mick was mad because he didn't know or forgot the number of chair shots Other then that, you're not going to find a dude as giving as he was in the ring for someone in his position. Even with the HHH/HBK jealousy factor, him and HHH still had great chemistry Mick's issue was that Rock never came to check on him after the match, despite just about everyone else dropping by to make sure he was alright. Mick put a lot of that resentment on himself for not just confronting him, but he'd been under the impression he could maybe have one last feud with Rock, and didn't want to toss out that fuel prematurely, a reason he freely admitted was idiotic. For Rock's part, he apparently was immediately apologetic and said he had no memory of after that match, which gels with Rock saying he was terrified during his first top run because he was so young and being pushed so hard, and waiting for the other shoe to drop. Wouldn't shock me if pretty much everything after the first chairshot was practically autopilot for him, which has to be terrifying in its own right, to know that you have the capacity for that kind of brutality in you. Still, the gist is basically right. Rock didn't fight Mick on it and immediately took the blame when Mick told him, and Foley forgave him after and buried the hatchet. Mick has also admitted he let it fester for way too long without even talking to Rock about it. It's hard to make amends when you don't even know someone is upset.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 11, 2019 11:51:15 GMT -5
Mick's issue was that Rock never came to check on him after the match, despite just about everyone else dropping by to make sure he was alright. Mick put a lot of that resentment on himself for not just confronting him, but he'd been under the impression he could maybe have one last feud with Rock, and didn't want to toss out that fuel prematurely, a reason he freely admitted was idiotic. For Rock's part, he apparently was immediately apologetic and said he had no memory of after that match, which gels with Rock saying he was terrified during his first top run because he was so young and being pushed so hard, and waiting for the other shoe to drop. Wouldn't shock me if pretty much everything after the first chairshot was practically autopilot for him, which has to be terrifying in its own right, to know that you have the capacity for that kind of brutality in you. Still, the gist is basically right. Rock didn't fight Mick on it and immediately took the blame when Mick told him, and Foley forgave him after and buried the hatchet. Mick has also admitted he let it fester for way too long without even talking to Rock about it. It's hard to make amends when you don't even know someone is upset. Yea, as said if confronted Rock with this earlier Mick probably wouldn't have had the hard feelings as long as he did. Different from the Austin and Owen situation in which I believe Austin said, Owen never apologized or talked to him about it
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Sept 11, 2019 12:47:48 GMT -5
You know who doesn't like the Rock; Kevin Nash.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 14:00:39 GMT -5
Black Ty respond yet lol?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 11, 2019 14:03:06 GMT -5
Black Ty respond yet lol? Lol hell no. He holding that L cause he know Rock clapped back and if he clapped back then you toast. You tried to talk shit when the movie didn't open well but look at it now, it made the money and you look like a fool running your mouth
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 14:12:11 GMT -5
The Rock is the only reason I watched Fast Five and beyond. I think the only FF movie I saw prior to that was the first one. He had a hand in saving that franchise. Tyrese is fighting a battle he can’t win.
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Post by domrep on Sept 11, 2019 16:12:04 GMT -5
The Rock is the only reason I watched Fast Five and beyond. I think the only FF movie I saw prior to that was the first one. He had a hand in saving that franchise. Tyrese is fighting a battle he can’t win. The political game of that franchise is so intriguing. There's Vin Diesel's side which I assume includes most if not all the OG cast, and then there's the Rock who, like you said, saved the franchise.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Sept 11, 2019 17:56:30 GMT -5
The Rock is the only reason I watched Fast Five and beyond. I think the only FF movie I saw prior to that was the first one. He had a hand in saving that franchise. Tyrese is fighting a battle he can’t win. The political game of that franchise is so intriguing. There's Vin Diesel's side which I assume includes most if not all the OG cast, and then there's the Rock who, like you said, saved the franchise. Its really going to be intriguing to see what the next FF mainline movie does. Hobbs has been a really fun character and always brightened the scenes he led. Dom really isn’t all that charismatic
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 11, 2019 19:04:58 GMT -5
The political game of that franchise is so intriguing. There's Vin Diesel's side which I assume includes most if not all the OG cast, and then there's the Rock who, like you said, saved the franchise. Its really going to be intriguing to see what the next FF mainline movie does. Hobbs has been a really fun character and always brightened the scenes he led. Dom really isn’t all that charismatic The last movie really missed Paul Walker's presence. The guy wasn't a great actor, but he brought an energy to his scenes that Vin Diesel just doesn't have, and they made a good on-screen pairing. It concerns me that Cody Walker brother has apparently been a regular presence on the set of the ninth movie. Hopefully it's a case of him just hanging out, rather than an attempt to bring Brian back.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Sept 11, 2019 19:43:01 GMT -5
Its really going to be intriguing to see what the next FF mainline movie does. Hobbs has been a really fun character and always brightened the scenes he led. Dom really isn’t all that charismatic The last movie really missed Paul Walker's presence. The guy wasn't a great actor, but he brought an energy to his scenes that Vin Diesel just doesn't have, and they made a good on-screen pairing. It concerns me that Cody Walker brother has apparently been a regular presence on the set of the ninth movie. Hopefully it's a case of him just hanging out, rather than an attempt to bring Brian back. I’m honestly worried they might make Cena into Brian’s cousin or something
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Sept 11, 2019 20:02:50 GMT -5
Who could possibly hate the Rock? Paper
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Sept 11, 2019 22:20:20 GMT -5
You know who doesn't like the Rock; Kevin Nash. Why?
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