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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Aug 7, 2019 10:14:38 GMT -5
That Todd in the Shadows series that covers albums that either ended or significantly hurt careers.
Any you’d argue for?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 10:35:15 GMT -5
Have they done Lulu by Metallica and Lou Reed?
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 7, 2019 10:35:28 GMT -5
St. Anger deserves another dunking.
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Post by Paul on Aug 7, 2019 10:54:57 GMT -5
Vanilla Ice- Mind Blowin'.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 7, 2019 10:59:51 GMT -5
He'll never do it cause it's out of his wheelhouse, but the self-titled Suicide Silence album deserves one.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 7, 2019 11:20:19 GMT -5
Shame it won't happy because of the obvious, but HIStory by Michael Jackson.
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Post by Fundertaker on Aug 7, 2019 11:29:57 GMT -5
"Cut The Crap" by The Clash.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Aug 7, 2019 11:41:13 GMT -5
“Cold Lake” by Celtic Frost. Band probably isn’t popular enough, but I’d love to hear his take.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Aug 7, 2019 11:55:21 GMT -5
St. Anger deserves another dunking. Doesn't really count, honestly. Sure, the Black Album set a high standard (16X platinum; 31M worldwide), but none of the following albums followed that up. Load - 5X platinum; 8M worldwide Reload - 3-4X platinum;5-6M worldwide St. Anger - 2X platinum; ~3M worldwide Death Magnetic - 2X platinum; 3-4M worldwide Hardwired... to Self-Destruct - 1X platinum; 5M worldwide Depending on your perspective, St. Anger either continued the gradual slide the band had been experiencing (specifically sales in the US) or simply just a low point (worldwide sales increased after that album). Either way, it doesn't count.
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Post by Spider2024 on Aug 7, 2019 12:13:44 GMT -5
Soundloaded by Ricky Martin would be an intriguing one. The immediate follow-up to his self-titled album from 1999 that was his big smash crossover into America and also was the big bang for the Latin Invasion. Yet somehow it was all the other singers from that invasion (Enrique Iglesias/Marc Anthony/Jennifer Lopez/Shakira/etc.) who benefited much more in the long run than Ricky, who pretty much flamed out just as quickly as he roared into the U.S. music scene, thanks to Soundloaded.
Was Soundloaded (the album with "She Bangs" on it btw) really that bad? Was "She Bangs" really that bad? I mean it is definitely worse than "Living La Vida Loca", and all the other songs on the album were very mediocre compared to the album cuts from the previous album. It still amazes me that Ricky Martin was soured upon so quickly after being on everyone's lips just 2 years before.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 7, 2019 12:19:14 GMT -5
How about Willennium by Will Smith?
I'd say that was the point a lot of people soured on him.
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Post by Paul on Aug 7, 2019 12:19:24 GMT -5
Shame it won't happy because of the obvious, but HIStory by Michael Jackson. Oh yeah... For "D.S" alone. But, I think "Invincible" is actually a worse album.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 7, 2019 12:20:43 GMT -5
Shame it won't happy because of the obvious, but HIStory by Michael Jackson. Oh yeah... For "D.S" alone. But, I think "Invincible" is actually a worse album. I'd agree, but given the concept of the series, HIStory was the turning point musically for him, despite following albums being worse.
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Post by Paul on Aug 7, 2019 12:26:35 GMT -5
Oh yeah... For "D.S" alone. But, I think "Invincible" is actually a worse album. I'd agree, but given the concept of the series, HIStory was the turning point musically for him, despite following albums being worse. Yeah. "Dangerous" was the last Michael Jackson album I really liked (and even that one is a bit too long).
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Aug 7, 2019 12:28:07 GMT -5
How about Willennium by Will Smith? I'd say that was the point a lot of people soured on him. 2x platinum, reasonable reviews, and Will Smith didn’t really get forced out of a career. He just decided to pursue an easier, more lucrative one. With that said, it is terrible.
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Post by adamclark52 on Aug 7, 2019 12:43:03 GMT -5
He'll never do it cause it's out of his wheelhouse, but the self-titled Suicide Silence album deserves one. I’d forgotten about that album. I’m not even a fan of the band but I felt let down.
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Post by wildojinx on Aug 7, 2019 12:51:38 GMT -5
Huey Lewis-Small World-Proved people didnt want a "serious" Huey Lewis Def Leppard-Slang-Sent Def Leppard from a "legacy" band like the Stones or Aerosmith into being seen as nothing more than another 80s hair band Motley Crue-Generation Swine-Ditto Garth Brooks-The Life of Chris Gaines-there's lots of material to cover here Vanilla Ice-Mind Blowin-He's always said he wanted to cover Ice, and since he cant do that on One Hit Wonderland (he had more than one big hit), might as well do this album.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 7, 2019 12:53:34 GMT -5
St. Anger deserves another dunking. Doesn't really count, honestly. Sure, the Black Album set a high standard (16X platinum; 31M worldwide), but none of the following albums followed that up. Load - 5X platinum; 8M worldwide Reload - 3-4X platinum;5-6M worldwide St. Anger - 2X platinum; ~3M worldwide Death Magnetic - 2X platinum; 3-4M worldwide Hardwired... to Self-Destruct - 1X platinum; 5M worldwide Depending on your perspective, St. Anger either continued the gradual slide the band had been experiencing (specifically sales in the US) or simply just a low point (worldwide sales increased after that album). Either way, it doesn't count. If he included that Madonna album he can also include St. Anger
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 7, 2019 12:57:43 GMT -5
He'll never do it cause it's out of his wheelhouse, but the self-titled Suicide Silence album deserves one. I’d forgotten about that album. I’m not even a fan of the band but I felt let down. Me neither but I can't remember the last time a metal band put out an album so thoroughly alienating to their fan base. TEE-HEE!
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Aug 7, 2019 13:03:11 GMT -5
Doesn't really count, honestly. Sure, the Black Album set a high standard (16X platinum; 31M worldwide), but none of the following albums followed that up. Load - 5X platinum; 8M worldwide Reload - 3-4X platinum;5-6M worldwide St. Anger - 2X platinum; ~3M worldwide Death Magnetic - 2X platinum; 3-4M worldwide Hardwired... to Self-Destruct - 1X platinum; 5M worldwide Depending on your perspective, St. Anger either continued the gradual slide the band had been experiencing (specifically sales in the US) or simply just a low point (worldwide sales increased after that album). Either way, it doesn't count. If he included that Madonna album he can also include St. Anger He included the Madonna one because it changed her public status. She stopped being someone who had any real relevance. Metallica had 2 albums before St. Anger that alienated fans of the Black Album (I liked them well enough, but I know that not everyone saw it that way). If you wanted to include Load as the album that changed their public persona, I would buy that as a better argument.
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