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Post by Deputy Muscle on Aug 12, 2019 14:44:20 GMT -5
It's like they're going out of their way to sign every indy sideshow goofy wrestler they can. It's like they're going out of their way to sign successful acts who draw money. Fools. Only Vince decides who draws, not the fans!
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Post by thetower52 on Aug 12, 2019 14:47:42 GMT -5
Sweet. More reason to avoid AEW
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Post by thatloser on Aug 12, 2019 14:52:11 GMT -5
First Chuck Taylor and now Orange Cassidy? So Swamp Monster is next right?
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Aug 12, 2019 14:56:10 GMT -5
Sweet. More reason to avoid AEW I'm curious, what's your issue with him? He makes money, he's over, he's probably in better shape than most workers because his usual style is SO damn safe....so what's the issue? You're a wrestler, right? Break it down for me, why is Orange Cassidy bad?
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Post by thegatewaydrug on Aug 12, 2019 15:13:47 GMT -5
I hope someone ended up drinking that contract juice. Too much pulp. ...Wood pulp!
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Post by bearned on Aug 12, 2019 15:20:46 GMT -5
Sure the ‘comedy’ gimmick has a shelf life (to be honest I think it’s one of the best comedy gimmicks in forever) but Orange Cassidy can bring it in terms of work when he wrestles ‘normal’ so he’s a great signing.
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Post by thetower52 on Aug 12, 2019 15:23:51 GMT -5
Sweet. More reason to avoid AEW I'm curious, what's your issue with him? He makes money, he's over, he's probably in better shape than most workers because his usual style is SO damn safe....so what's the issue? You're a wrestler, right? Break it down for me, why is Orange Cassidy bad? His whole gimmike makes wrestling look incredibly phony and that type of wrestling I hate with a passion
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Aug 12, 2019 15:26:03 GMT -5
I'm curious, what's your issue with him? He makes money, he's over, he's probably in better shape than most workers because his usual style is SO damn safe....so what's the issue? You're a wrestler, right? Break it down for me, why is Orange Cassidy bad? His whole gimmike makes wrestling look incredibly phony and that type of wrestling I hate with a passion Again, it's about making money, drawing houses. He does both. The dude is a proven draw, no matter how "phony" you think it makes wrestling look. That horse left the barn a LOOOOOOOOOONG time before OC.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Aug 12, 2019 15:31:23 GMT -5
About time for Cornette's monthly stroke Already had one with Ryan Satin about Mance Warner
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Aug 12, 2019 15:34:55 GMT -5
About time for Cornette's monthly stroke Already had one with Ryan Satin about Mance Warner Whoaaaa now, what's Cornette's problem with Mancer?
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Aug 12, 2019 15:40:19 GMT -5
Already had one with Ryan Satin about Mance Warner Whoaaaa now, what's Cornette's problem with Mancer? Mance got speared through a door by the Invisible Man which led to him freaking out
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Post by Cyno on Aug 12, 2019 15:45:03 GMT -5
I'm curious, what's your issue with him? He makes money, he's over, he's probably in better shape than most workers because his usual style is SO damn safe....so what's the issue? You're a wrestler, right? Break it down for me, why is Orange Cassidy bad? His whole gimmike makes wrestling look incredibly phony and that type of wrestling I hate with a passion So you don't like any pro wrestling then?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 12, 2019 16:27:58 GMT -5
I'm curious, what's your issue with him? He makes money, he's over, he's probably in better shape than most workers because his usual style is SO damn safe....so what's the issue? You're a wrestler, right? Break it down for me, why is Orange Cassidy bad? His whole gimmike makes wrestling look incredibly phony and that type of wrestling I hate with a passion I know right dude? Give me that good shit like when someone is Irish Whipped in every single wrestling match ever, yknow, that shit that isn't incredibly phony looking! IT'S WRESTLING. Wrestling IS incredibly Phony, and ridiculous. It always has been. Cassidy's gimmick is nothing different from other shit we've seen. Need I remind you we've had people sell a Cobra Sleeve as a legit finishing move in the biggest company in the world? Actually watch some of his matches, he can either be comedy or he can actually be forced to wrestle a match, of which, he does incredibly well. Any company would be grateful to have someone as versatile as Cassidy and that's why AEW got him. He's not a one trick pony, far from it. He is a proven draw and hot act and has been this way awhile. This mentality just annoys me because like with this logic, half the acts in wrestling that have gotten over, shouldn't have been wrestlers, ever.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Aug 12, 2019 16:34:43 GMT -5
I’m guessing that there are quite a few people that have only seen Orange’s lazy hands in his pockets gimmick. Maybe they don’t know what he’s really capable of. They’re in for quite a treat once they find out. I think they’ll be surprised.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Aug 12, 2019 16:37:31 GMT -5
I’m guessing that there are quite a few people that have only seen Orange’s lazy hands in his pockets gimmick. Maybe they don’t know what he’s really capable of. They’re in for quite a treat once they find out. I think they’ll be surprised. OC had, legitimately, one of my top five favorite matches of all time back in 2008, and he's only gotten better with age.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 12, 2019 16:39:07 GMT -5
Anyway, I think his gimmick is fun and entertaining. And when he actually wrestles, he's damn good in the ring.
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Post by cmhunk on Aug 12, 2019 16:50:01 GMT -5
Yeah, to actually pull off Cassidy’s gimmick to the level that he does you have to be pretty damn good in the ring. As for him making wrestling look phony, I’d say there are wrestlers in WWE who do that way more than OC.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 12, 2019 17:08:53 GMT -5
As if the utter death of kayfabe wasn't enough, I think the prevalence of MMA stands as a great reason for why wrestling doesn't need hard, intense realism. Not to say there aren't good, interesting promotions doing stuff with a real sportslike presentation; New Japan is still very grounded and the Bloodsport shows tend to be really entertaining and enjoyable. But at the end of the day, there's no inherent need for the illusion, and as long as you handle it properly I think embracing the fact wrestling is a written show and not a real fight means stuff can live and breathe and be fun. If it's landing with its audience then I don't see what the issue is on that front; it's making money, it's entertaining the fans, those are the two core goals of show business. Orange Cassidy is not an every-show every-match kind of act. But when utilized properly, it's a hit.
Hard realistic traditionalism is how you narrow the scope of what wrestling can be and do and the ways it draws money
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 17:10:24 GMT -5
I mean, arguably the hottest acts in wrestling right now are a deranged children's show host who turns into a monster clown and a dinosaur.
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Post by Derk! on Aug 12, 2019 17:18:14 GMT -5
Probably gonna be used strictly on PPV only since I don't think TNT can handle such a violent and dangerous wrestler.
Seriously, though. Good for him. Based on the few matches I've seen from him, dude is much more than the lazy guy with his hands in his pockets.
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