Spider2024
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Post by Spider2024 on Aug 26, 2019 17:20:42 GMT -5
Way too often, days come and go with our house not getting our mail. Just flat out, our whole neighborhood gets outright skipped for the day. Apparently the USPS rulebook says that postal workers flat out cannot work past 6 PM on any given day, so they get to up and quit and go home for the day without delivering all the mail, which I would refer to as NOT DOING YOUR JOB! What other occupations in the country are you explicitly ALLOWED to NOT complete your work duties for the day! It's irrelevant that all that mail comes the next day anyway, why is there even a need to wait until tomorrow for yesterday's mail? We flat out get skipped for one full day and are left hanging for no reason other than I'm guessing gross mismanagement at the sorting facility or whatever. This is ineptitude that I shouldn't have to excuse. It's ridiculous and, I'll say it, it's bullshit that there's no recourse for this unexplained underachievement. It's not like I can 'fire the post office' since I don't even pay them. And yet the people that pay them (as well as the people that pay them, and so on) get to skate on partial work for full pay. And constantly I might add. I swear, this shit happens at least twice a month, the mailbox only being filled with the vacancy that reeks of laziness and ineptitude. Something's not going on right at these headquarters. I'm not saying it's the actual mail people's fault, it might be the people above them, or a mix of every level, but it's likely that this whole system is highly imperfect and outright crap. Also no one with a USPS badge seems to give a f*** how many times this has happened. So can anyone sue them? Any part of the organization? Or are they being protected somehow by some sort of legal lock-tight government exception or something?
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Aug 26, 2019 17:24:49 GMT -5
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 26, 2019 17:26:14 GMT -5
TL;DR version?
No, you can't sue them for lost, damaged or missing mail. They have federal sovereign immunity from such suits.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Aug 26, 2019 17:48:51 GMT -5
They’re in a serious budget crisis to the point where the wisdom of keeping them open is very much in question. I can appreciate your situation but could also very easily believe they are doing the best they can with completely inadequate resources.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 26, 2019 18:00:44 GMT -5
They’re in a serious budget crisis to the point where the wisdom of keeping them open is very much in question. I can appreciate your situation but could also very easily believe they are doing the best they can with completely inadequate resources. ...Have you dealt with USPS employees in the recent past?
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Aug 26, 2019 18:02:43 GMT -5
This sounds eerily like the plot to Bentley Little's novel "The Mailman"
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Aug 26, 2019 18:10:24 GMT -5
They’re in a serious budget crisis to the point where the wisdom of keeping them open is very much in question. I can appreciate your situation but could also very easily believe they are doing the best they can with completely inadequate resources. ...Have you dealt with USPS employees in the recent past? Yes. I’d also assume that there are not a lot of people who have the ambition of working for the USPS though, so I try and cut them some slack as people trying to make a living.
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Post by edgestar on Aug 26, 2019 18:16:47 GMT -5
My dad is a USPS employee, though he works in the distribution center. If the office states that the workers are allowed to work up until 6, then, they aren't in breach of anything. Some days, people just don't get mail. I understand that if you're going days, without mail, that it's frustrating, but, you can't sue them, for this.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 26, 2019 19:08:04 GMT -5
What mail exactly are you waiting for that had sent you into this rage?
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Dr. T is an alien
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Aug 26, 2019 19:33:04 GMT -5
They’re in a serious budget crisis to the point where the wisdom of keeping them open is very much in question. I can appreciate your situation but could also very easily believe they are doing the best they can with completely inadequate resources. It’s also the dumbest thing ever. They are being forced to pre-fund their employees pension plan 75 years in advance. They are being forced to pre-fund the pensions of employees whose PARENTS haven’t been born yet.
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Rave
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Post by Rave on Aug 26, 2019 19:54:01 GMT -5
Can't say I've ever had a problem with the USPS. UPS and their bastard seasonal drivers, on the other hand...
I live in a rural area, so getting packages in the winter can be a hit-or-miss prospect. We've had packages left by the side of the road, left in snowbanks, etc. One seasonal driver even threatened to break into the house. This past year, I had to negotiate a hostage crisis with them just to get my packages properly delivered, as their seasonal driver for my route decided to flake out on actually trying to make any kind of delivery. The manager there tried defending whoever it was by saying that she "lets the drivers decide", then personally guaranteed that I'd get my packages the next day...only for her to not keep her word, as someone screwed up getting one of them on the truck, causing it to need an additional day. Even when requested to call us again via the UPS Facebook page (their customer service there is good, didn't have a problem getting through to them), she never did, prob'ly because she knew she was in the wrong.
The regular driver at the time heard about the whole sordid affair when he delivered my first package. Even he called it total bullshit. Went above and beyond to get that second package to me. Good dude.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Aug 27, 2019 0:51:43 GMT -5
"Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds."
It's not an official motto or anything, but they seem to be all proud of it.
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Post by Jacy Jayne Atomic Dog AMV on Aug 27, 2019 1:30:29 GMT -5
You want to sue them for not working past their hours and swiftly correcting it the next day when they have time? They've done nothing wrong.
Also it's not constantly happening if it's once or twice a month.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Aug 27, 2019 1:44:18 GMT -5
I assume you can in some way, but I think it would be more productive to address your concerns to your local USPS office first (and do try to be polite about it, even assuming they completely are in the wrong. I'm amazed by the number of people who seem to think that the best way to get service workers on your side is to immediately scream at and threaten them).
I'm going to assume that like pretty much every company this day, the problem has less to do with people "not doing their job" (and I would argue that working the hours you're paid for is indeed doing your job) and more to do with refusing to hire more than the absolute minimum of workers to technically keep the company running (not efficiently, but enough to survive) so they don't have to pay more wages, which makes it pretty much impossible for what few employees there are to do all the work they're expected to, which leads to some of it getting skipped, and the work being done to be poorly done due to constant stress and both physical and mental exhaustion as a result of workers having to handle work that should be done by at least twice as many people.
Do keep in mind that there's a lot more to being a mailman than just deliveries, and the deliveries can't be done if all the work beforehand isn't done, and if there's not enough people to do it, then they have to keep people who were supposed to be doing deliveries at the office to do all the other stuff.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Aug 27, 2019 6:18:05 GMT -5
My postman was so fast on his route that they suspended him for being too good at his job. I didn’t even think that was something that could be possible but his superiors were pissed he was getting done so early. In the two weeks he was gone his substitutions messed up the mail so badly (delivering mail to the wrong addresses, damaged mail, mail not showing up at all, etc.) that they brought him back and told him they didn’t care if he got done early as long as he got his work done. The post office got so many calls they had no other choice. He shouldn’t have been suspended in the first place but I guess they learned their lesson.
In all honesty he does break the rules a bit. He’s signed for packages for me when I’m not home to get them. He knows I work a lot so he hooks me up sometimes. He’s helped other people to make sure they get their deliveries too. He treats people like individuals rather than not caring whether they get their mail or not and he still gets done with his work early. The postal service could use more workers like that, in my opinion. So many people go through the motions and don’t really care about customer service or their jobs. They just want to get paid.
TL;DR: If enough people call and complain they might assign a different postman to your route.
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Heartbreaker
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Post by Heartbreaker on Aug 27, 2019 6:30:17 GMT -5
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Post by MC Blowfish on Aug 27, 2019 8:14:46 GMT -5
So you miss your mail twice a month? If you're waiting for something, that sucks. However I don't think it's that big of an issue. I think you need to step away and refocus your energy on something else.
Also, please for the love of god. Break down your text into paragraphs.
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Kyn
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Post by Kyn on Aug 27, 2019 9:07:49 GMT -5
Are you okay? (Genuinely asking). Your level of anger about this seems disproportionate.
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Post by unc40 on Aug 27, 2019 12:05:16 GMT -5
...Have you dealt with USPS employees in the recent past? Yes. I’d also assume that there are not a lot of people who have the ambition of working for the USPS though, so I try and cut them some slack as people trying to make a living. Working for the USPS used to be a very sought after job in this country. You had to take a civil service exam and then wait for an opening which didn't happen much. On top of that you had to know someone to even be considered when an opening came up. It was one of the hardest jobs to get. Very few people write letters anymore because of email and people pay there bills by automatic bank pay. Most mail is just packages so the USPS is less necessary than it used to be.
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Dr. T is an alien
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Aug 27, 2019 12:13:13 GMT -5
Yes. I’d also assume that there are not a lot of people who have the ambition of working for the USPS though, so I try and cut them some slack as people trying to make a living. Working for the USPS used to be a very sought after job in this country. You had to take a civil service exam and then wait for an opening which didn't happen much. On top of that you had to know someone to even be considered when an opening came up. It was one of the hardest jobs to get. Very few people write letters anymore because of email and people pay there bills by automatic bank pay. Most mail is just packages so the USPS is less necessary than it used to be. USPS is very active in the warehouse shipping industry. Their rates are competitive and they service places the other carriers won't (because they are obligated to do so by law, but still).
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