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Post by Dub H on Sept 5, 2019 21:09:03 GMT -5
I have high hopes for the match but I really hope Cody loses this. Just from an optics standpoint it feels early for this, but if Cody fails it will do a lot to ease the inevitable 'he's just booking himself to be a world champion' blowback I'm already seeing in the comments of the announcement. Actually, if either Hangman or Kenny are planned to take the title off of him this would be a good way to start setting shit up; Jericho being a shithead menace yelling at everyone, causing the company problems, but he's run through all The Elite and they're not sure how to get the belt off of him, enter Hangman or a rejuvenated and head-in-the-game Omega to take it to him and get the belt off of him at DON or something. One of the top comments on IG is "Cody Hogan" so yeah lol. I'm sure Cody will lose but it's just a matter of how he'll lose. They can't do the "Cody almost wins but then MJF screws Cody" thing because at that point Cody's the strongest kayfabe person in the company given Jericho beat Omega and Page so yeah that's not going to work. If Jericho beats Cody clean then it's like "ok what else is Cody going to do", I don't know where this is going to go.
I'm interested in what they'll do here. Sure they've already thought it out. I like Cody a lot, I just think the guy needs a long rise before he gets the title.
I mean,it is not like Cody beat anyone of big profile so far.So a clean loss to Jericho wouldn't be a big downfall
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 21:18:28 GMT -5
One of the top comments on IG is "Cody Hogan" so yeah lol. I'm sure Cody will lose but it's just a matter of how he'll lose. They can't do the "Cody almost wins but then MJF screws Cody" thing because at that point Cody's the strongest kayfabe person in the company given Jericho beat Omega and Page so yeah that's not going to work. If Jericho beats Cody clean then it's like "ok what else is Cody going to do", I don't know where this is going to go.
I'm interested in what they'll do here. Sure they've already thought it out. I like Cody a lot, I just think the guy needs a long rise before he gets the title.
I mean,it is not like Cody beat anyone of big profile so far.So a clean loss to Jericho wouldn't be a big downfall It won't be a downfall at all and it'll make sense given Jericho's experience. I'm just wondering what Cody's next angle will be after this. We'll see where it goes. I expect Jericho to beat pretty much most people right now, Cody included. Maybe they'll kick the MJF feud off soon but given the comments about it, sounds like it might be a slow burn. I also would love to see a future Cody/Pac feud. Yeah, lemme see that next. Just have Pac talk shit about Cody's loss and see where it goes.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 5, 2019 21:29:44 GMT -5
Yeah, I think Cody needs to lose here because you don't want to pull a Jeff Jarrett. Though Cody's also had some of the most compelling matches in AEW's short existence so I imagine both he and Jericho will put on a hell of a match.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 21:43:03 GMT -5
Cody's the logical first challenger - he has probably the most forward momentum of any singles competitor in the company at the moment and he's basically the only main event face coming off a win.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Sept 5, 2019 22:47:38 GMT -5
Man I’m pumped for two reasons: A.) The feud itself cause you know with these two it’s gonna be good. Who knows where it’ll go but this whole title shenanigan might play into it as Jericho coming off like a reckless champion to Cody’s company baby. B.) I think Cody’s pomp and circumstance and old school march storytelling is gonna mesh well with jerichos current shtick as of late.
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Post by Psy on Sept 5, 2019 23:17:04 GMT -5
I'm hoping for a strong, lengthy reign from their first champion. Hell, I want every reign to matter, and not just flip-flop from month to month.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 5, 2019 23:24:08 GMT -5
If Cody wins, I'd be glad because I'm a fan, but I very much doubt he will. I don't think Jericho will make it to Wrestle Kingdom with the title belt, but I don't imagine he'd lose his first title defense.
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Post by mattyy on Sept 5, 2019 23:27:07 GMT -5
If Cody wins, I'd be glad because I'm a fan, but I very much doubt he will. I don't think Jericho will make it to Wrestle Kingdom with the title belt, but I don't imagine he'd lose his first title defense. I imagine this is where MJF turns on Cody. Maybe he comes out with Blanchard or something like that. But Jericho's not losing here.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 5, 2019 23:33:12 GMT -5
If Cody wins, I'd be glad because I'm a fan, but I very much doubt he will. I don't think Jericho will make it to Wrestle Kingdom with the title belt, but I don't imagine he'd lose his first title defense. I imagine this is where MJF turns on Cody. Maybe he comes out with Blanchard or something like that. But Jericho's not losing here. I mean, it's possible, but it wouldn't be very savvy of MJF. You turn on the champion to angle for a title shot, right? I think if he turns on Cody, it'd be due to trying to help him win and messing it up, or Cody rejecting his help and MJF taking insult at it.
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Post by Yamashita Enforcement Division on Sept 6, 2019 1:09:57 GMT -5
Cody vs. Jericho is going to have such really great smoke and mirrors. Well, that makes sense as something Cody would consider big news. I mean,it is not like Cody beat anyone of big profile so far.So a clean loss to Jericho wouldn't be a big downfall He drew with Darby Allin and beat Dustin Rhodes and Shawn Spears. Cody's singles record isn't spotless.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 6, 2019 2:26:53 GMT -5
Cody vs. Jericho is going to have such really great smoke and mirrors. Well, that makes sense as something Cody would consider big news. I mean,it is not like Cody beat anyone of big profile so far.So a clean loss to Jericho wouldn't be a big downfall He drew with Darby Allin and beat Dustin Rhodes and Shawn Spears. Cody's singles record isn't spotless. Who beats it at this point, though, that isn't coming off of a loss? The Bucks are the only people with a better win/loss right now, but they just lost a big match and none of their matches were singles, anyway.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 6, 2019 2:58:56 GMT -5
I really dig the internal logic of booking a title match with the guy who's 2-0-1 in singles matches. Without overtly screaming why they've shown the way that wins and losses do matter within the storytelling right off the bat.
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Post by clifford on Sept 6, 2019 4:30:00 GMT -5
See, for me here in lies the drawback of the win/loss record being taken as seriously as it is in AEW.
The Spears/Cody program was great, but they pigeon holed themselves into the only outcome being a Cody win as they had to set him up as a logical challenger for Jericho.
I can see a lot of instances down the line where they will have to go against what makes more sense/is better for a storyline in order to adhere to the ranking system. Now in this case I will be giving them the benefit of the doubt because Cody is really the only top face they have at this stage in the company's infancy to challenge Jericho in a main event, and having him lose to Spears only to get a title shot is some real WWE booking.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 6, 2019 5:05:57 GMT -5
See, for me here in lies the drawback of the win/loss record being taken as seriously as it is in AEW. The Spears/Cody program was great, but they pigeon holed themselves into the only outcome being a Cody win as they had to set him up as a logical challenger for Jericho. I can see a lot of instances down the line where they will have to go against what makes more sense/is better for a storyline in order to adhere to the ranking system. Now in this case I will be giving them the benefit of the doubt because Cody is really the only top face they have at this stage in the company's infancy to challenge Jericho in a main event, and having him lose to Spears only to get a title shot is some real WWE booking. I imagine it's going to be easier to keep balls in the air as the show goes on, especially with TV. Guessing some people like Luchasaurus are going to have their win/loss ratio improve a lot when they can get some lower stakes matches going.
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Post by Nosnorb on Sept 6, 2019 5:56:34 GMT -5
Remember that Cody didn't exactly win clean over Shawn Spears - That Double A Spinebuster was a big help. So I can see Spears cost Cody the match and onto a Last Man Standing match to end the feud.
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Post by eJm on Sept 6, 2019 6:00:05 GMT -5
Remember that Cody didn't exactly win clean over Shawn Spears - That Double A Spinebuster was a big help. So I can see Spears cost Cody the match and onto a Last Man Standing match to end the feud. Yeah, like, something is going to happen here from a story perspective whether Spears gets revenge or MJF finally turns here and leads to stuff whenever the next PPV is. I'll be shocked if Cody wins.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 6, 2019 6:00:36 GMT -5
Remember that Cody didn't exactly win clean over Shawn Spears - That Double A Spinebuster was a big help. So I can see Spears cost Cody the match and onto a Last Man Standing match to end the feud. Also possible, though if Jericho won clean or clean-ish, I wouldn't be too shocked, either, especially if they used it to put over the Judas Effect more, especially if he hit Cody in the back of the head with it to play off of the Shawn chairshot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 6:18:05 GMT -5
Cody will get and deserve a lengthy title reign but to avoid Jarrett/HHH comparisons I think he'll wait until the company has a year or two under its belt first. It's high profile enough for the MJF turn (if it counts as a turn, a heel turning heeler?)
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Post by clifford on Sept 6, 2019 8:57:01 GMT -5
Fantasy Booking the card for Full Gear: Jericho vs. Cody Omega vs. Moxley
PAC vs. Page- all signs to this being set up for Full Gear.
Bucks vs. LAX- I don't think this is for the tag titles. Could be wrong. Feel like this feud doesn't need the titles and they can build up the tag division more by having different champions and first challengers on another match on this card- Lets just say SCU vs. Dark Order, 2 teams that are being pushed as of late.
Nyla Rose vs. Awesome Kong vs. Brandi- Womens World Title Triple Threat- I think Nyla is winning the belt, and a face turn to follow. First challenger is Awesome Kong, and Brandi sneaks in there too. Could have a storyline of Cody and Brandi both going for the world titles at this PPV.
Bea Priestly vs. Britt Baker- Perhaps with some sort of stipulation. Would also serve as a No. 1 Contenders match for the womens world title.
Jurassic Express vs Best Friends and Orange Cassidy- 6 man tag with unlimited opportunities for fun.
Other midcard match possibilities that I'd like to see round out this card: Spears vs. Jimmy Jacobs, MJF vs. Darby Allin, Joey Janela vs. Kip Sabian. They've been setting up Sami Guevera vs. Brandon Cutler on BTE as well. None of these really scream PPV but could see one or two of them on the Buy In for sure.
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Post by chrom on Sept 6, 2019 11:26:17 GMT -5
Cody has the best win loss singles record, so its a given he's first in line.
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