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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 6, 2019 0:38:01 GMT -5
Have Page or Marty ever got a 5 star rating on a match? Would be nuts if all of the Elite managed it at one point or another.  |
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Post by thetower52 on Sept 6, 2019 4:19:14 GMT -5
Lord Dave sucks these dudes off
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Post by clifford on Sept 6, 2019 4:20:19 GMT -5
Have Page or Marty ever got a 5 star rating on a match? Would be nuts if all of the Elite managed it at one point or another. He's definitely given at least a 5 star match to Marty for his match with Ospreay at Sakura Genesis 2018 Don't think Page has ever sniffed a Dave 5 star match. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 6, 2019 4:41:48 GMT -5
Have Page or Marty ever got a 5 star rating on a match? Would be nuts if all of the Elite managed it at one point or another. He's definitely given at least a 5 star match to Marty for his match with Ospreay at Sakura Genesis 2018 Don't think Page has ever sniffed a Dave 5 star match. Ah, nice. And Page's 4 here with Jericho at least shows promise, so, could be worse. |
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 6, 2019 5:02:27 GMT -5
WALTER/Bate earlier that day also got a 5.25 star match, which I'm really, really hoping will offset the obvious stuff.
As far as 'completing the set', Page's best hope is in like a big clusterf*** six-man tag or crammed ladder match where the considerations are different. I don't know that he'd ever really be able to pull off a five star singles match--even Okada and Omega, who have very varied 5+* matches, have better dance partners than Page--but in the right place the carnage of a huge ladder match or a trios tag with enough top guys in there that Hangman would only need to do like the Buckshot Lariat and smile, he could probably make it.
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Post by realist on Sept 6, 2019 5:35:18 GMT -5
He can go to hell for ever going above 5 stars So what exactly is the cap? |
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 6, 2019 5:37:36 GMT -5
WALTER/Bate earlier that day also got a 5.25 star match, which I'm really, really hoping will offset the obvious stuff. As far as 'completing the set', Page's best hope is in like a big clusterf*** six-man tag or crammed ladder match where the considerations are different. I don't know that he'd ever really be able to pull off a five star singles match--even Okada and Omega, who have very varied 5+* matches, have better dance partners than Page--but in the right place the carnage of a huge ladder match or a trios tag with enough top guys in there that Hangman would only need to do like the Buckshot Lariat and smile, he could probably make it. Before All Out, I'd have been inclined to agree, but I think Page was on the right track there. I feel like having the right angle to fuel a match could maybe get him over the hump, but yeah, a big gimmick match could probably help, too. |
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Post by 111111 on Sept 6, 2019 5:38:00 GMT -5
Lord Dave sucks these dudes off They were quite savvy earlier in their careers by naming moves after him and acknowledging him in the crowd at PWG shows. I bet they're probably in regular contact with him to spin stuff too. Meltzer is so easy for wrestlers to work. |
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Post by thetower52 on Sept 6, 2019 8:43:39 GMT -5
He can go to hell for ever going above 5 stars So what exactly is the cap? 5. The cap should be 5. If his scale is suppose to be a 5 star rating scale don’t go over 5 |
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Post by Dub H on Sept 6, 2019 8:44:50 GMT -5
I think people take it too seriously.
It is just a fun tradition really.ans above 5 just means it went above,the extra mile.
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Post by eJm on Sept 6, 2019 8:48:54 GMT -5
It's his star system.
If you want your star system to stay at 5 stars, 10 stars, have half and quarter stars, ranked in Sean Beans, ranked on whether it scared your cat out of the room, whatever. It's just always weird when people expect one kind of ranking system.
Edit: For the record, I ranked the match "HOLY F***, WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO YOURSELVES?! PLEASE DON'T DO THIS EVER AGAIN" out of 5.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 8:51:14 GMT -5
There is no set criteria on judging wrestling so it has never made sense to me why certain folk take his ratings as seriously as they do.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Sept 6, 2019 8:54:33 GMT -5
It's a way for him to share his opinion on how much he liked a given match. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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Post by Yamashita Enforcement Division on Sept 6, 2019 8:56:24 GMT -5
5. The cap should be 5. If his scale is suppose to be a 5 star rating scale don’t go over 5 It's not a five star rating scale, though. Five is just where the match of the year is meant to land at. Higher numbers make it can thus increase the period to decade, century, history of time, et cetera. |
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Post by cabbageboy on Sept 6, 2019 10:27:08 GMT -5
I mean my thing is that it can't really be above the usual norm of 5 stars when there was a glaring scary spot where a guy could have killed himself. It's sort of like the Ishii/Omega match from last year. How can it be 5 1/2 when there was a clearly blown spot early on?
I did find his NXT UK ratings by the way. I don't get giving the nothing Storm/Ray match a higher rating than a bruising affair like Mastiff/Coffey. I'll admit to being a Mastiff mark however.
Get this. In Scott Keith's review he gave Jericho/Page only *1/2 and said it was one of Jericho's worst matches ever. That seems a bit much in the harsh direction. Again, I think I have it pegged right at **1/2. It wasn't awful but it was too long, not much heat, and Page just isn't there yet. He also gave the Cody/Spears match *1/2 or something, which again is low but if you just don't respond to the sort of overbooked wackiness I can see that one. In fact it's fascinating how AEW has such varying opinions of the matches themselves.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Sept 6, 2019 12:24:05 GMT -5
Is it not a 5 star scale anymore after it got broken by that 7? Any time I see a list of ratings he seems to give something over 5 every couple of months.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 6, 2019 12:32:41 GMT -5
In my personal record book, every match at All Out got 5 out of a possible 7 stars.
How 'bout that?!
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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Sept 6, 2019 15:51:10 GMT -5
This match seemed amazing to watch live, but I wasn't there live so mostly I just stared at it like "uhhhhhhhh"
Like, I wouldn't call it bad by any stretch, but it just felt like another Bucks vs. Lucha Bros match.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Sept 6, 2019 16:35:58 GMT -5
That means he thinks it's better than such matches as: Austin-Hart, Punk-Cena, Flair-Steamboat, etc.. This is why I don't take his ratings seriously. Imagine if someone like Roger Ebert, for example, who always did movie ratings up to 4 stars, just suddenly started giving out 5, 6, or 6 and a quarter stars out of nowhere. It's silly. Yep. Also, wrestling is subjective. Yes, there's a difference between good wrestlers and bad wrestlers, but that's about their fundamental skill to do the job properly. For example, Hulk Hogan was a better in-ring wrestler than Billy Kidman on account of Hulk never smashing people's faces with his finisher more times than you can count on both hands. Yet, I guarantee Kidman typically got higher match ratings for "workrate". Well, I would watch Hogan vs. Savage from WrestleMania or Hogan vs. Luger from Nitro any day over Kidman vs. Jung Dragon #2. |
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Post by Dub H on Sept 6, 2019 17:50:28 GMT -5
That means he thinks it's better than such matches as: Austin-Hart, Punk-Cena, Flair-Steamboat, etc.. This is why I don't take his ratings seriously. Imagine if someone like Roger Ebert, for example, who always did movie ratings up to 4 stars, just suddenly started giving out 5, 6, or 6 and a quarter stars out of nowhere. It's silly. Yep. Also, wrestling is subjective. Yes, there's a difference between good wrestlers and bad wrestlers, but that's about their fundamental skill to do the job properly. For example, Hulk Hogan was a better in-ring wrestler than Billy Kidman on account of Hulk never smashing people's faces with his finisher more times than you can count on both hands. Yet, I guarantee Kidman typically got higher match ratings for "workrate". Well, I would watch Hogan vs. Savage from WrestleMania or Hogan vs. Luger from Nitro any day over Kidman vs. Jung Dragon #2. It also helps Hulk moveset was probably the most basic moveset ever More risks,more chances to f*** up basically.Not defending Kidman,I wouldnt consider him good in that sense either but injuring people arent the only factor. |
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