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Post by Andee9001 on Feb 13, 2024 4:33:38 GMT -5
I actually saw an interview with Dakota Johnson on Seth Meyers. She quickly corrected that it was not part of the Spiderverse. She said it's not connected to anything "you don't have to know anything, it's great for Americans". She didn't seem particularly disdainful of the movie but was quick to latch onto the fact that it's its own thing unconnected to anything else. Somehow that makes it worse. Becuase if it isn't connected to Venom or Morbius or any other universe then what's the point? What's it building to? What impact will it have? They already predict it's going to bomb so it ain't getting a sequel. It's basically just The Eternals all over again.
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Post by Ryushinku on Feb 13, 2024 6:27:19 GMT -5
I hope the general audience is kinder, because right now this thing is getting its ass kicked in early critic reviews.
Like unfortunately too often with Sony and their superhero films of recent years, people think it's a bad idea at the start, bad idea when being made, and bad idea when it comes out. Yet some execs keep on giving the big thumbs up for each project.
Sure we'll be in the same boat with Kraven soon.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 13, 2024 7:46:09 GMT -5
I hope the general audience is kinder, because right now this thing is getting its ass kicked in early critic reviews. Like unfortunately too often with Sony and their superhero films of recent years, people think it's a bad idea at the start, bad idea when being made, and bad idea when it comes out. Yet some execs keep on giving the big thumbs up for each project. Sure we'll be in the same boat with Kraven soon. Except for Venom, because those have been fun movies and made money.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Feb 13, 2024 9:04:40 GMT -5
I hope the general audience is kinder, because right now this thing is getting its ass kicked in early critic reviews. Like unfortunately too often with Sony and their superhero films of recent years, people think it's a bad idea at the start, bad idea when being made, and bad idea when it comes out. Yet some execs keep on giving the big thumbs up for each project. Sure we'll be in the same boat with Kraven soon. Except for Venom, because those have been fun movies and made money. And thats in spite of studio interference. Imagine a Sony/WBD joint production company
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Feb 13, 2024 9:21:38 GMT -5
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Post by Friday Night SmackSown on Feb 13, 2024 9:44:34 GMT -5
I hope the general audience is kinder, because right now this thing is getting its ass kicked in early critic reviews. Like unfortunately too often with Sony and their superhero films of recent years, people think it's a bad idea at the start, bad idea when being made, and bad idea when it comes out. Yet some execs keep on giving the big thumbs up for each project. Sure we'll be in the same boat with Kraven soon. Except for Venom, because those have been fun movies and made money. Probably the only part of Sony’s Spider-Man Without Spider-Man films that isn’t total shit, and that’s largely because of Tom Hardy doing everything in his power to make the films entertaining.
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Post by schma on Feb 13, 2024 9:44:37 GMT -5
I actually saw an interview with Dakota Johnson on Seth Meyers. She quickly corrected that it was not part of the Spiderverse. She said it's not connected to anything "you don't have to know anything, it's great for Americans". She didn't seem particularly disdainful of the movie but was quick to latch onto the fact that it's its own thing unconnected to anything else. Somehow that makes it worse. Becuase if it isn't connected to Venom or Morbius or any other universe then what's the point? What's it building to? What impact will it have? They already predict it's going to bomb so it ain't getting a sequel. It's basically just The Eternals all over again. Not everything has to build to something or be connected to something. Don't get me wrong, I'm a comic fan who loves connected shit. However, plenty of movies exist on their own as part of their own universe. By that logic, 90% of movies have no point because their universe isn't interconnected.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 13, 2024 10:05:59 GMT -5
There's a general theory that Sony are tricking these actors into thinking they're part of the MCU and then they sign on and nope its Spiderman extras. I mean, it's kinda their fault for not doing a one minute google search "is Sony part of the MCU". I'm not in the movie industry and I know it isn't. Everybody in the world knows it isn't. Yet these idiots are somehow thinking they're part of the MCU for appearing in Madame Webb... I don't buy Sony is telling them it's MCU. They are likely saying something along the lines of "she's a character from Marvel's Spider-Man comics" and the actors are putting two and two together and making five without even bothering to look into it. Actors get misled and tricked into doing shitty movies all the f***ing time. It's absolutely believable they were lied to or at least things were omitted when getting them onboard. They're not morons.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Feb 13, 2024 10:49:02 GMT -5
Actors get misled and tricked into doing shitty movies all the f***ing time. It's absolutely believable they were lied to or at least things were omitted when getting them onboard. They're not morons. It's not difficult to find out if Madame Web is MCU or not. It's a minute google search. I mean, I know it isn't. You know it isn't. Everybody on the internet knows it isn't. Yet the actors appearing in it for some reason thought it was.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 13, 2024 11:47:29 GMT -5
Actors get misled and tricked into doing shitty movies all the f***ing time. It's absolutely believable they were lied to or at least things were omitted when getting them onboard. They're not morons. It's not difficult to find out if Madame Web is MCU or not. It's a minute google search. I mean, I know it isn't. You know it isn't. Everybody on the internet knows it isn't. Yet the actors appearing in it for some reason thought it was. Again you would be surprised how people can get ropes into things. Basically everyone in Movie 43 was tricked into making it.
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 13, 2024 12:04:18 GMT -5
It's not difficult to find out if Madame Web is MCU or not. It's a minute google search. I mean, I know it isn't. You know it isn't. Everybody on the internet knows it isn't. Yet the actors appearing in it for some reason thought it was. Again you would be surprised how people can get ropes into things. Basically everyone in Movie 43 was tricked into making it. And the Tom Holland Spidey movies are produced by Sony AND part of the MCU. It isn't inconceivable that Sony would say something about connecting to those movies at least, especially after No Way Home had Tobey and Andrew's Spideys in it.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 13, 2024 12:08:36 GMT -5
Again you would be surprised how people can get ropes into things. Basically everyone in Movie 43 was tricked into making it. And the Tom Holland Spidey movies are produced by Sony AND part of the MCU. It isn't inconceivable that Sony would say something about connecting to those movies at least, especially after No Way Home had Tobey and Andrew's Spideys in it. Exactly. I think calling actors stupid for getting cast for movies when they don't know all the details is insulting and just plain ignorant about how show business often works.
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Post by Fade on Feb 13, 2024 12:25:12 GMT -5
Actors are generally stupid.
<— am and have been one.
Anyway. They certainly made what they wore at the premiere memorable.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Feb 13, 2024 12:35:44 GMT -5
I mean, it's kinda their fault for not doing a one minute google search "is Sony part of the MCU". I'm not in the movie industry and I know it isn't. Everybody in the world knows it isn't. Yet these idiots are somehow thinking they're part of the MCU for appearing in Madame Webb... I don't buy Sony is telling them it's MCU. They are likely saying something along the lines of "she's a character from Marvel's Spider-Man comics" and the actors are putting two and two together and making five without even bothering to look into it. Actors get misled and tricked into doing shitty movies all the f***ing time. It's absolutely believable they were lied to or at least things were omitted when getting them onboard. They're not morons. Hell, how many examples of that are there in just this genre? Matthew Vaughn dropped out of directing the third X-Men movie in part because he found out they gave Halle Berry a whole fake script to get her to sign back on after she was so underutilized in the first two movies. Patti Jenkins ended up directing Wonder Woman for the Distinguished Competition because although Marvel Studios brought her in to direct Thor 2, mostly (again) to get Natalie Portman to come back for the sequel, they basically micromanaged her right out of the door. Also "everybody in the world" doesn't know that. Between Venom popping up in Far From Home and No Way Home, and Vulture popping up in Morbius, it would be very easy to convince somebody who isn't "in the know" that they'll be in the MCU proper somewhere down the line.
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Post by Fade on Feb 13, 2024 12:40:26 GMT -5
Actors get misled and tricked into doing shitty movies all the f***ing time. It's absolutely believable they were lied to or at least things were omitted when getting them onboard. They're not morons. Hell, how many examples of that are there in just this genre? Matthew Vaughn dropped out of directing the third X-Men movie in part because he found out they gave Halle Berry a whole fake script to get her to sign back on after she was so underutilized in the first two movies. Patti Jenkins ended up directing Wonder Woman for the Distinguished Competition because although Marvel Studios brought her in to direct Thor 2, mostly (again) to get Natalie Portman to come back for the sequel, they basically micromanaged her right out of the door. Also "everybody in the world" doesn't know that. Between Venom popping up in Far From Home and No Way Home, and Vulture popping up in Morbius, it would be very easy to convince somebody who isn't "in the know" that they'll be in the MCU proper somewhere down the line. Don’t forget Robin Williams getting tricked and being used as bait to lure Nicholson. Along with my “actors are stupid” belief, I’ll throw in the industry is seedy and exploitive as f***. Both these things can be true. And yea, there are absolutely fans who aren’t super huge into movies or comics that wouldn’t know any of this stuff. But if you’re an actor, signing on to this big of a venture, you should make yourself know, if you don’t. Which trails me back to my belief.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 13, 2024 12:46:51 GMT -5
Well, it is slightly beating Morbius in reviews so that's something? Kinda?
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Feb 13, 2024 13:07:38 GMT -5
Hell, how many examples of that are there in just this genre? Matthew Vaughn dropped out of directing the third X-Men movie in part because he found out they gave Halle Berry a whole fake script to get her to sign back on after she was so underutilized in the first two movies. Patti Jenkins ended up directing Wonder Woman for the Distinguished Competition because although Marvel Studios brought her in to direct Thor 2, mostly (again) to get Natalie Portman to come back for the sequel, they basically micromanaged her right out of the door. Also "everybody in the world" doesn't know that. Between Venom popping up in Far From Home and No Way Home, and Vulture popping up in Morbius, it would be very easy to convince somebody who isn't "in the know" that they'll be in the MCU proper somewhere down the line. Don’t forget Robin Williams getting tricked and being used as bait to lure Nicholson. Along with my “actors are stupid” belief, I’ll throw in the industry is seedy and exploitive as f***. Both these things can be true. And yea, there are absolutely fans who aren’t super huge into movies or comics that wouldn’t know any of this stuff. But if you’re an actor, signing on to this big of a venture, you should make yourself know, if you don’t. Which trails me back to my belief. Bill Murray signed on to be the voice of Garfield because he thought the film was written by Joel Coen (of the Coen Brothers), but it was actually written by Joel Cohen, who is a completely different person.
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Post by salz4life on Feb 13, 2024 13:24:20 GMT -5
Well, it is slightly beating Morbius in reviews so that's something? Kinda? I didn't hate Morbius... but I also thought it was a waste of time, so...
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Post by chrom on Feb 13, 2024 13:25:36 GMT -5
Well, it is slightly beating Morbius in reviews so that's something? Kinda? Like being stung by 7 wasps instead of 8
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Post by Andee9001 on Feb 13, 2024 13:29:45 GMT -5
Somehow that makes it worse. Becuase if it isn't connected to Venom or Morbius or any other universe then what's the point? What's it building to? What impact will it have? They already predict it's going to bomb so it ain't getting a sequel. It's basically just The Eternals all over again. Not everything has to build to something or be connected to something. Don't get me wrong, I'm a comic fan who loves connected shit. However, plenty of movies exist on their own as part of their own universe. By that logic, 90% of movies have no point because their universe isn't interconnected. I'm not talking about other films though. I'm talking about the next entry in Sonys supposed Spider-Man universe. Morbius was awful but it still implied that it was building towards the Sinister Six. I just thought if Sony were going to invest time in trying to build their universe they would try to connect things up and Madame Web would play a part in that.
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