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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Nov 24, 2019 15:59:19 GMT -5
Wait, this guy was Punishment Martinez? I mean, he's sort of decent, held up his end of the bargain admirably last night....but considering he's where he is now after having the single worst ring name I've EVER heard, I definitely go to give him his due.
He could only go up from there, and he seems to be on his way.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Nov 25, 2019 1:06:45 GMT -5
Surprisingly Vince was seemingly trying put a stop to that at Survivor Series.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 25, 2019 1:17:10 GMT -5
Surprisingly Vince was seemingly trying put a stop to that at Survivor Series. He's not done already, is he? One bad day at the office?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 25, 2019 1:19:45 GMT -5
Surprisingly Vince was seemingly trying put a stop to that at Survivor Series. He's not done already, is he? One bad day at the office? "One bad day at the office"? This was the biggest appearance of his entire career and he got jobbed out. Even WALTER at least got offense in when he was the first one out, Priest didn't even get that. In the end yeah maybe this'll mean nothing, but as it stands, if you wanna make a guy a big deal you DON'T do that to him. You want people who have never seen him before to want to know who he is and why you should care. That just made you go "Lol well f*** that goober I guess lol", and that's a big issue.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 25, 2019 1:38:34 GMT -5
Surprisingly Vince was seemingly trying put a stop to that at Survivor Series. Bad day, he didn't get his shine at the office More reason why the Vince will want to bring him up to Raw or SD is wrong at the moment. Keep him right in NXT where he will be treated right
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Post by Georgina's Fancy Water on Nov 25, 2019 1:44:34 GMT -5
The Survivor Series bits with him were weird. Like, I liked that he got a chance to do his pose and look cool, but after that he just sorta got lost, whiffed a spinkick, then died. It's still super early days for him though, so it doesn't matter too much.
His look and presence are absolutely undeniable though, even if his ring work is still a bit suspect. That man is a marketing guy's wet dream.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Nov 25, 2019 1:53:10 GMT -5
Give it time. He'll get his shine.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 1:54:39 GMT -5
I don't think tonight killed his career by any means, but it did certainly make him look like a useless idiot and show that the people making decisions on the main roster don't give a shit about him.
I think in the moment he'll get built back up on NXT and be fine, but if they move him to Raw right after Mania or something he's doomed.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 25, 2019 1:54:58 GMT -5
He's not done already, is he? One bad day at the office? "One bad day at the office"? This was the biggest appearance of his entire career and he got jobbed out. Even WALTER at least got offense in when he was the first one out, Priest didn't even get that. In the end yeah maybe this'll mean nothing, but as it stands, if you wanna make a guy a big deal you DON'T do that to him. You want people who have never seen him before to want to know who he is and why you should care. That just made you go "Lol well f*** that goober I guess lol", and that's a big issue. I get that it's frustrating, f***, I've spent the afternoon talking about how these elimination matches aren't worth doing anymore because of things EXACTLY like this where a wrestler looks bad because they have to get rid of 9-14 wrestlers with clean finishes over the course of a 30 minute match, but what am I supposed to do about it? Doing 5v5v5 was a recipe for damn disaster, and it's a miracle that we only have as few people as we do that we can point to and say "They had a bad day" and have it be not reflective of their talent.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 25, 2019 1:57:39 GMT -5
"One bad day at the office"? This was the biggest appearance of his entire career and he got jobbed out. Even WALTER at least got offense in when he was the first one out, Priest didn't even get that. In the end yeah maybe this'll mean nothing, but as it stands, if you wanna make a guy a big deal you DON'T do that to him. You want people who have never seen him before to want to know who he is and why you should care. That just made you go "Lol well f*** that goober I guess lol", and that's a big issue. I get that it's frustrating, f***, I've spent the afternoon talking about how these elimination matches aren't worth doing anymore because of things EXACTLY like this where a wrestler looks bad because they have to get rid of 9-14 wrestlers with clean finishes over the course of a 30 minute match, but what am I supposed to do about it? Doing 5v5v5 was a recipe for damn disaster, and it's a miracle that we only have as few people as we do that we can point to and say "They had a bad day" and have it be not reflective of their talent. It is nothing he can't come back from Him and WALTER took short ends of the stick but they will still be pushed like animals. Shit happens sometimes
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 25, 2019 2:02:23 GMT -5
I get that it's frustrating, f***, I've spent the afternoon talking about how these elimination matches aren't worth doing anymore because of things EXACTLY like this where a wrestler looks bad because they have to get rid of 9-14 wrestlers with clean finishes over the course of a 30 minute match, but what am I supposed to do about it? Doing 5v5v5 was a recipe for damn disaster, and it's a miracle that we only have as few people as we do that we can point to and say "They had a bad day" and have it be not reflective of their talent. It is nothing he can't come back from Him and WALTER took short ends of the stick but they will still be pushed like animals. Shit happens sometimes It's just really bad first impressions, especially for WALTER who has looked like shit in his main roster appearances Are they ruined forever? No. But are they really baffling first impressions? Yes, especially for your future and for guys like WALTER who should have an extremely strong aura and not be jobbing to a McIntyre Claymore.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 25, 2019 2:04:23 GMT -5
It is nothing he can't come back from Him and WALTER took short ends of the stick but they will still be pushed like animals. Shit happens sometimes It's just really bad first impressions, especially for WALTER who has looked like shit in his main roster appearances Are they ruined forever? No. But are they really baffling first impressions? Yes, especially for your future and for guys like WALTER who should have an extremely strong aura and not be jobbing to a McIntyre Claymore. Well in fairness, WALTER stood up to Strowman and took him off his feet single candidly and took out Drew too. Drew caught him with a boot which he didn't see so it is what it is in that regard. Throw WALTER out there against Dunne or somebody again and he will be fine but this wasn't really a showcase for him or Priest They are not on RAW or SD so there is no real worries in that regard.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 25, 2019 2:05:20 GMT -5
Give it time. He'll get his shine. No offense, but the track records of... Kevin Owens The Revival Sami Zayn Asuka Tyler Breeze American Alpha Authors of Pain Aleister Black Finn Balor Ember Moon War Raiders EC3 Neville Shinsuke Nakamura Bobby Roode Ricochet ... pretty much say that this dude is f***ed the second Vince gets him.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Nov 25, 2019 2:06:21 GMT -5
Give it time. He'll get his shine. No offense, but the track records of... Kevin Owens The Revival Sami Zayn Asuka Tyler Breeze American Alpha Authors of Pain Aleister Black Finn Balor Ember Moon War Raiders EC3 Neville Shinsuke Nakamura Bobby Roode Ricochet ... pretty much say that this dude is f***ed the second Vince gets him. Counterpoint; Baron Corbin. And Damien Priest is like a cooler better wrestling Baron Corbin.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 25, 2019 2:07:06 GMT -5
No offense, but the track records of... Kevin Owens The Revival Sami Zayn Asuka Tyler Breeze American Alpha Authors of Pain Aleister Black Finn Balor Ember Moon War Raiders EC3 Neville Shinsuke Nakamura Bobby Roode Ricochet ... pretty much say that this dude is f***ed the second Vince gets him. Counterpoint; Baron Corbin. And Damien Priest is like a cooler better wrestling Baron Corbin. Which is exactly why they won't use him. He's actually talented.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 25, 2019 2:11:17 GMT -5
Give it time. He'll get his shine. No offense, but the track records of... Kevin Owens The Revival Sami Zayn Asuka Tyler Breeze American Alpha Authors of Pain Aleister Black Finn Balor Ember Moon War Raiders EC3 Neville Shinsuke Nakamura Bobby Roode Ricochet ... pretty much say that this dude is f***ed the second Vince gets him. If Vince gets him We got the 3rd brand so for now thinks are good. Also EC3 wasn't any better in NXT
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Post by Perfect Timing on Nov 25, 2019 2:42:55 GMT -5
They Mike Knoxed him.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 25, 2019 2:54:14 GMT -5
No offense, but the track records of... Kevin Owens The Revival Sami Zayn Asuka Tyler Breeze American Alpha Authors of Pain Aleister Black Finn Balor Ember Moon War Raiders EC3 Neville Shinsuke Nakamura Bobby Roode Ricochet ... pretty much say that this dude is f***ed the second Vince gets him. If Vince gets him We got the 3rd brand so for now thinks are good. Also EC3 wasn't any better in NXT Yo, he was treated WAY better on NXT.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 25, 2019 2:57:13 GMT -5
If Vince gets him We got the 3rd brand so for now thinks are good. Also EC3 wasn't any better in NXT Yo, he was treated WAY better on NXT. I said he wasn't any better not that he was treated better. He just couldn't keep up in ring down there He really did nothing in NXT because he didn't fit down there. He was a "main roster guy" that for some reason Vince doesn't see money in
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Nov 25, 2019 13:01:26 GMT -5
WOW! Really didn't mean to start a whole disagreement/discussion lmao
I was just saying it in half serious and half joking about Vince stopping his momentum. My bad.
However seriously I think he'll still be a star, but with Vince you truly don't know.
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