Your biggest pet peeve(s) with Dynamite?

[Laces]

Mine is the kayfabe canon crap ref stuff. 

And the fact that we're six episodes in and Kenny's twitter handle is STILL wrong

[Nosnorb]

Women's division not getting enough attention.

[Laces]

Nov 7, 2019 14:01:18 GMT -5 Nosnorb said:

Women's division not getting enough attention.

Oh FOR sure!

[Rave]

Split screening commercials during obvious lulls in the show. I don't want to spend several minutes just looking at fans who're waiting for something to happen.

[Nosnorb]

I don't actually mind the crap refs too much, because Mox getting into the ring in full view of the ref, taking Omega out of the match then putting him through a glass table and the ref not giving a shit was funny as f***.

[Deleted]

they have so many people on the roster you can go weeks without seeing them again

[Hypnosis]

Nov 7, 2019 14:01:18 GMT -5 Nosnorb said:

Women's division not getting enough attention.

I do think more women besides Brandi and Britt Baker could use promos and storylines, to help fans not familiar with them understand their characters better.

The crowd shots need to be lessened.

[markymark]

Lack of character development in the women division, ring-wise at least there are has been improvement in the last 2 weeks.

[The 1Watcher Experience]

Lack of promos. They don’t have to be these in ring ten minute deals that WWE does either. Just a minute or two backstage to help get a character and their motivations over. Watch an old episode of WWF Superstars. They did multiple ones every week and you knew where everyone was coming from.

This isn’t WCW Nitro coming to TNT after being on television since the 70s. This is still a new promotion with a handful of PPVs and a month of television behind it to establish it so far. Viewers need to see more personality from the roster. It’s the only way to make them really care about the roster and for AEW to grow in popularity. Wrestling boom periods were driven by charismatic wrestlers that people cared about.

Look at that Cody promo thread. You have people saying they never cared for Cody but they enjoyed hearing him cut that promo. I don’t know how they have MJF on the roster but they’re not having him talk every week. That’s a missed opportunity. They could be attracting so many new fans. Fans don’t talk about Roddy Piper’s wrestling ability too often. They sure talk about his promo skills and Piper’s Pit any time his name comes up. Personality goes a long way. AEW needs more of that.

[Celgress]

These are mine -

Commercial break split-screen (with nothing of note happening)

Lack of focus on the women's division

Lack of character diversity (we go weeks without seeing certain talent while others show up every show)

Clusterf*** show endings (huge brawls with too much going on all at once).

Oh, and perhaps my biggest of all, too many tag team matches.

[The Dark Order Inferno]

A lot of talent where we're given no reason to care about them, often the only way to tell they're face or heel is if they're facing a member of the Elite. Start defining people and giving them something to do, because being new isn't going to work as an excuse forever.

Brit Baker isn't likeable. We get it, she's smart and talented, but we're given no reason to care about her other than she's being used as the Gail Kim of the company, for whatever reason. The whole Women's division is just kind of there.

Rules are meaningless in tag matches and Face/Heel roles are too as a result. Double teaming is continual, the faces do it as much as, if not more than the heels ,so that dastardly heel tactic of two on one is kind of worthless as the other face can just hop on in at any point. The heels aren't doing anything heelish, they're not able to, they're not sneaking around behind the refs back because they're not even pretending to have rules.

Four guys in the ring at once gets a lot less exciting when every team does it for most of the matches they're in, it just seems like kind of a clusterhug.

Big spots are being pissed away in meaningless matches. Jack Evans is doing stuff like 450 splashes off the top ropes onto an opponent laid across chairs in nothing multi-man matches on dark and only getting a two count. Something that should be a huge deal is being turned into a 'So what?' spot and that's unsustainable, wrestling has barely recovered from that nonsense being widespread in the attitude era, do we really need a return to that in a major promotion?

Lack of promo time for most of the roster. Peter Avalon has had more mic time than 90% of the roster because most of his gimmick is telling people to shush on his way to the ring. I don't want 15 minute promos between matches, but give guys something! If they can't talk that well live, do some pre-taped stuff and play it during the odd entrance or online, but I guess that would require them to have actual feuds first.

[Deleted]

I wish there was more of a sense of gravitas. It feels too ‘loose’ most of the time.

[Nr1Humanoid]

Not enough rotating of the roster, resulting in many of the same people every show.

[Can you afford to pay me, Gah]

Hardly being able to hear the announcers. Going to commercial split screen when nothing is going on but not going to that WHEN a match is going on.

[Bub (BLM)]

They need "name" jobbers like WCW had, that way the pushed acts don't have to always beat one another. I'm talking about getting some Glacier/Jerry Flynn/Mike Enos/Hard Work Bobby Walker type guys.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Nov 7, 2019 18:36:16 GMT -5 Bub (BLM) said:

They need "name" jobbers like WCW had, that way the pushed acts don't have to always beat one another. I'm talking about getting some Glacier/Jerry Flynn/Mike Enos/Hard Work Bobby Walker type guys.

Cutler seems to be at least one guy for that purpose

Nakazawa too 

[Tea & Crumpets]

Nov 7, 2019 14:45:35 GMT -5 The 1Watcher Experience said:

Lack of promos. They don’t have to be these in ring ten minute deals that WWE does either. Just a minute or two backstage to help get a character and their motivations over. Watch an old episode of WWF Superstars. They did multiple ones every week and you knew where everyone was coming from.

This isn’t WCW Nitro coming to TNT after being on television since the 70s. This is still a new promotion with a handful of PPVs and a month of television behind it to establish it so far. Viewers need to see more personality from the roster. It’s the only way to make them really care about the roster and for AEW to grow in popularity. Wrestling boom periods were driven by charismatic wrestlers that people cared about.

Look at that Cody promo thread. You have people saying they never cared for Cody but they enjoyed hearing him cut that promo. I don’t know how they have MJF on the roster but they’re not having him talk every week. That’s a missed opportunity. They could be attracting so many new fans. Fans don’t talk about Roddy Piper’s wrestling ability too often. They sure talk about his promo skills and Piper’s Pit any time his name comes up. Personality goes a long way. AEW needs more of that.

Nov 7, 2019 16:13:59 GMT -5 The Dark Order Inferno said:

A lot of talent where we're given no reason to care about them, often the only way to tell they're face or heel is if they're facing a member of the Elite. Start defining people and giving them something to do, because being new isn't going to work as an excuse forever.

Brit Baker isn't likeable. We get it, she's smart and talented, but we're given no reason to care about her other than she's being used as the Gail Kim of the company, for whatever reason. The whole Women's division is just kind of there.

Rules are meaningless in tag matches and Face/Heel roles are too as a result. Double teaming is continual, the faces do it as much as, if not more than the heels ,so that dastardly heel tactic of two on one is kind of worthless as the other face can just hop on in at any point. The heels aren't doing anything heelish, they're not able to, they're not sneaking around behind the refs back because they're not even pretending to have rules.

Four guys in the ring at once gets a lot less exciting when every team does it for most of the matches they're in, it just seems like kind of a clusterhug.

Big spots are being pissed away in meaningless matches. Jack Evans is doing stuff like 450 splashes off the top ropes onto an opponent laid across chairs in nothing multi-man matches on dark and only getting a two count. Something that should be a huge deal is being turned into a 'So what?' spot and that's unsustainable, wrestling has barely recovered from that nonsense being widespread in the attitude era, do we really need a return to that in a major promotion?

Lack of promo time for most of the roster. Peter Avalon has had more mic time than 90% of the roster because most of his gimmick is telling people to shush on his way to the ring. I don't want 15 minute promos between matches, but give guys something! If they can't talk that well live, do some pre-taped stuff and play it during the odd entrance or online, but I guess that would require them to have actual feuds first.

Agreed with all of both of these.

I'm all for a wrestling-driven sports-esque presentation show, but like...we still need personality ,we need characters, we need angles. They are ALWAYS what make memorable moments actually memorable. Tbh it's more of an overall critique I have with AEW- they have lots of great wrestlers...who just go out there seemingly to Get Their Shit In and do lots and lots of fast paced and elaborate moves and spots, especially in tags....that especially when the promo and angle/character content is limited, just makes things blur together sometimes. So many tope suicidas or tope con hilos, so many lucha-style cycle in and out double teams or offence rushes in tags...when it happens so frequently just starts to feel like an elaborate dance sequence more than wrestling.

And don't get me wrong- I like a good crazy tag or spotfest now and then, but character, selling, and character-driven matches are what make wrestling matches memorable as more than a watch-and-forget flashy firework show for a limited attention span. Maybe wrestling's just moving away from me, or what I like in it (which, like, I'm a millenial so it's not even a generational thing), but I do wish AEW slowed things down, both in and out of the ring, and gave us a bit more highlighting of the personalities behind the roster, and more variety in match structure. They've not been too afraid to let matches end with non-finishers, which I'm very pleased about, but we need more of that, and more match length/structure- not everything needs to be a barnburner with both guys going a high octane relentless pace. Variety in wrestler types is good, variety in match types is good.

Another- the entrance music. We're 6 weeks in and I still can't say that a lot of guys have particularly memorable music. Best Friends have amongst the most memorable, and it's basically a short repeating riff.

And related to both of these...just everything with how they're handling Kenny Omega. The guy cooled a lot after he won the IWGP title sure, but man alive. 2017 through summer 2018 he was the hottest wrestler in the world, and now he just...he's there. He's there, he's wrestling decent enough matches but not really on his NJPW work's level, he's not really getting any promo time, he's fallen below Jericho, Cody, Moxley and probably PAC in terms of buzz, and at the moment there doesn't look to be any clear direction of how they plan to get him going again. Sure they've sort of messed with this "he's in a slump" angle, but it's not come up much and it's REALLY not a good look for him to the brand new TV viewers who won't be familiar with his years in Japan. He just kind of looks like a weird gamer who likes knees and everyone says is good even though he tends to drop the ball in big matches. And I'm a huge Omega mark, so maybe it's that, but he just comes off as very second-rate atm.

And one final massive nitpick- please stop calling Evil Uno Evil Uno. Uno sounds better, 'Evil' in front sounds kinda hokey (Works for EVIL in NJPW, not so much here). Plus they may try to sell him as a bruising heavyweight but he's clearly not actually that big, just fat, and I'm not sure what you do about that but it is jarring.


I say all this and it might give the impression I don't like AEW- I do, I'm a big fan, I'm watching every episode when I've not watched more than 2 Raws in a row since the Summer of Punk and before that 2008, Schiavone will ALWAYS be the #1 voice of wrestling for me with JR #2 and Excalibur is killing it, I like AEW a lot, but it's definitely got some flaws that stand out to me.

[Yamashita Enforcement Division]

Nov 7, 2019 18:36:16 GMT -5 Bub (BLM) said:

They need "name" jobbers like WCW had, that way the pushed acts don't have to always beat one another. I'm talking about getting some Glacier/Jerry Flynn/Mike Enos/Hard Work Bobby Walker type guys.

They have those, they employ them as office/production staff when they aren't jobbing.

[Session Moth is over]

I'm enjoying AEW but here's my problems with it

1. Too many tag matches

2. Rotate that roster a bit better

3. I watch Dark but I'm not sure it's a good idea to start or continue feuds on it if you want to build a TV audience.

4. I can't hear and enjoy the entrance themes as well as on WWE

5. Too many matches on Dynamite and not enough backstage segments and promos.

In saying all this I'm not trying to knock AEW, I'm just pointing out areas they could improve on. I have really enjoyed the show so far.

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Nov 7, 2019 14:05:49 GMT -5 Rave said:

Split screening commercials during obvious lulls in the show. I don't want to spend several minutes just looking at fans who're waiting for something to happen.

This, and then add to the fact that they DON'T have a split screen when they go to commercial during matches usually.