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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Dec 16, 2019 19:09:36 GMT -5
SCU being one of the most regularly featured things on the show is probably my main issue because wow I cannot put in to words how soulcrushingly boring they are to me.
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Post by corndog on Dec 16, 2019 20:53:04 GMT -5
All the character building is on yt I mean cool but not so cool Exactly, which is why the hardcore fans that watch the YouTube clips love the characters so much and are into the show, but being on a nationally televised program they need to expand to casual viewers. Every successful US promotion ever had promos on their television and segments to connect the wrestlers with the fans and without that it's just two guys having a match with no emotional investment. After watching "Being the Elite" for a while I was surprised when I saw Dynamite was just wrestling matches and very little story, I couldn't really get into it and I can't imagine being someone who has never heard of these guys getting hooked at all.
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Post by markymark on Dec 16, 2019 23:18:33 GMT -5
They should insert videopackages when they plan to debut a new talent(for example what Raw did tonight with Deonna)
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Post by 4real on Dec 17, 2019 5:12:39 GMT -5
OC & Hager taking up too much mic time Not enough Ted Irvine
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Post by Hypnosis on Dec 17, 2019 13:47:17 GMT -5
SCU being one of the most regularly featured things on the show is probably my main issue because wow I cannot put in to words how soulcrushingly boring they are to me. Madlibs:"I think SCU are so boring." Kazarian:"DO YA?!" But really, their act works better as heels, although I am interested in Daniels splitting from the other two as well judging by the latest BTE episode.
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Post by markymark on Dec 17, 2019 15:48:20 GMT -5
SCU being one of the most regularly featured things on the show is probably my main issue because wow I cannot put in to words how soulcrushingly boring they are to me. Madlibs:"I think SCU are so boring." Kazarian:"DO YA?!" But really, their act works better as heels, although I am interested in Daniels splitting from the other two as well judging by the latest BTE episode. Tomorrow we might witness the beginning of the end for SCU if they lose the titles to the Bucks.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 18, 2019 8:28:51 GMT -5
SCU as a trio don't work. Daniels and Kazarian are a great pairing who're naturally funny as heck, but they're playing it straight for the most part with Scorpio Sky and it's not clicking. I know Daniels is transitioning into a backstage role, but it still feels like a bit of a waste having them be Scorpio Sky +2.
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 18, 2019 15:42:16 GMT -5
SCU being one of the most regularly featured things on the show is probably my main issue because wow I cannot put in to words how soulcrushingly boring they are to me. I'm too much of a Daniels fan to find them completely boring, but I do have to question what's up with the singing. Just give me Fallen Angel and/or Appletini connoisseur.
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Post by King Devitt on Dec 19, 2019 9:18:52 GMT -5
Right now?
SCU.
They're becoming the Roman Reigns of AEW for me.
I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but good god they're killing the tag division with matches that the crowd clearly doesn't want them to win. Tonight was another "oh....they won..." reaction.
No way the Lucha Bros. couldn't have been the first champs, and brought way more...well...everything...to the tag division.
Credit to Sky for being awesome, but Kaz is just lead ass personified.
They killed this week's show for me. In a company full of great booking, and fixing the mistakes, this is the "we're going to be Vince McMahon stubborn about this one" and it's grating to watch.
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Post by markymark on Dec 19, 2019 9:32:18 GMT -5
Right now? SCU. They're becoming the Roman Reigns of AEW for me. I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but good god they're killing the tag division with matches that the crowd clearly doesn't want them to win. Tonight was another "oh....they won..." reaction. No way the Lucha Bros. couldn't have been the first champs, and brought way more...well...everything...to the tag division. Credit to Sky for being awesome, but Kaz is just lead ass personified. They killed this week's show for me. In a company full of great booking, and fixing the mistakes, this is the "we're going to be Vince McMahon stubborn about this one" and it's grating to watch. SCU is so dropping the belts to the Dark Order, its just a matter of time, we might get to see 2007 Daniels back as well.
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Post by brown bricks on Dec 19, 2019 9:38:22 GMT -5
- Dark Order, the "OMG STATLANDER IS AN ALIEN!" stuff, Orange Cassidy, and the other silly shit on the show. It just isn't for me and isn't the kind of wrestling I like.
- A lot of the shows feel like I'm watching a rerun. I can understand why they're losing viewers because it doesn't feel like there's anything there to keep a casual viewer coming back each week.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Dec 19, 2019 9:50:50 GMT -5
WAY too much focus on gimmicks and heel factions lately. None of them coming in very well, usually with little build that leaves people confused and disinterested. While I liked the Dark Order vignettes, I found that ending to be pretty lame. So, the two guys who the company labeled jobbers are now in masks and that's supposed to make them a threat now?
It also feels like something's missing since the start of Dynamite to now. Like the in-ring is fine, but it's not as exciting as it was before. Like complacency has really hit hard.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Dec 19, 2019 11:32:11 GMT -5
I wish there was more of a sense of gravitas. It feels too ‘loose’ most of the time. This is my main gripe. I get that they can't to be more of a "strike while the iron is hot" thing, but it takes away from letting things settle. Like when you cook a soup, you have to let it sit for the flavor to really kick in. For example, The Dark Order. They have something great with this. They are targeting Jungleboy like the Inner Cricle is trying to court Moxley since he's the threat to the world title. There are multiple ways to play these two situations. Whether you want them to intersect or keep them totally separate. These are two long term booking angles. These you can stretch and peel it off layer by layer. But they're peeling the layers off too fast. Some of this you can slow down in order to flush out the Women's Division and setting up other characters and future angles when the current angles finish. *I had to come back and edit this because somehow I just hit post when I thought I had this cued*
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Dec 19, 2019 14:13:41 GMT -5
I’d love to see some face stables established beyond The Elite, SCU, and Jurassic Express.
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Post by Facetious on Dec 19, 2019 14:18:27 GMT -5
I wish there was more of a sense of gravitas. It feels too ‘loose’ most of the time. This is my mine gripe. I get that they can't to be more of a "strike while the iron is hot" thing, but it takes away from letting things settle. Like when you cook a soup, you have to let it sit for the flavor to really kick in. For example, The Dark Order. They have something great with this. They are targeting Jungleboy like the Inner Cricle is trying to court Moxley since he's the threat to the world title. There are multiple ways to play these two situations. Whether you want them to intersect or keep them totally separate. These are two long term bookin angles. Theses you can stretch and peel it off layer by layer. But they Re peeling the layers off to fast. Some of this you can slow down in order to flush out the Women's Division and setting upper I'm not sure if it is fear of losing viewers to NXT or just inexperience, but yeah, this is becoming a gripe for me.
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Post by Hurbster on Dec 19, 2019 23:03:38 GMT -5
It's all just a bit silly.
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Post by Viking Hall on Dec 20, 2019 7:03:27 GMT -5
I wish there was more of a sense of gravitas. It feels too ‘loose’ most of the time. This is my main gripe. I get that they can't to be more of a "strike while the iron is hot" thing, but it takes away from letting things settle. Like when you cook a soup, you have to let it sit for the flavor to really kick in. For example, The Dark Order. They have something great with this. They are targeting Jungleboy like the Inner Cricle is trying to court Moxley since he's the threat to the world title. There are multiple ways to play these two situations. Whether you want them to intersect or keep them totally separate. These are two long term booking angles. These you can stretch and peel it off layer by layer. But they're peeling the layers off too fast. Some of this you can slow down in order to flush out the Women's Division and setting up other characters and future angles when the current angles finish. *I had to come back and edit this because somehow I just hit post when I thought I had this cued* I think/hope that this is something that's going to come with experience. Worth noting that essentially none of them have had any real booking experience before now and arguably still have a bit of that 'Indie' mindset that something big needs to happen on every show to get arses into seats for the next show. But I think it'll come, they've surrounded themselves with some solid minds too which can only help and now that they have a decent core of characters established they'll be able to settle into more of a rhythm.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Dec 20, 2019 8:22:29 GMT -5
I get that there’s no commercials for the Fite App, but they seem to rely too much on major stuff happening during commercial splitscreens (i.e. Omega going backstage to find PAC, Trent and Rey Fenix fighting after their match).
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 20, 2019 9:08:38 GMT -5
I get that there’s no commercials for the Fite App, but they seem to rely too much on major stuff happening during commercial splitscreens (i.e. Omega going backstage to find PAC, Trent and Rey Fenix fighting after their match). Yeah they really need to work on their timing of things. I don't mind some minor parts of matches during the PIP but they've had promos go on during them.
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