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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Nov 12, 2019 12:42:51 GMT -5
Other than the latter Inoki run (though if you want to include some more specific examples, go for it).
We roast the ones we love and I love NJPW.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 13:09:35 GMT -5
not having a women's division
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 12, 2019 13:23:13 GMT -5
Booking the nasty boys, I think that was the first time I’ve heard the Japanese audience boo at the shit wrestling.
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Post by mrpeacock on Nov 12, 2019 13:29:03 GMT -5
Less lol and more WTF. But letting KENTA continue a match with what looked like a severe concussion.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 12, 2019 13:34:30 GMT -5
The block distribution of the G1 in 2018.
Bullet Club in the 2018 G1.
Almost everybody in A-Block this year having a losing record.
Okada retaining at WK 12.
Jericho's absentee IC Title reign last year.
Bullet Club Civil War having no payoff.
Suzuki's NEVER title run having virtually the same finish every time.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 12, 2019 13:36:22 GMT -5
not having a women's division That's a Japanese wrestling thing, not a NJPW thing. The women wrestle in their own promotions versus being part of a division in a promotion like New Japan or NOAH.
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Post by Hypnosis on Nov 12, 2019 13:36:50 GMT -5
Josh Barnett preparing to fight Jay White when Barnett was still a commentator for NJPW.
YOSHI-HASHI getting an RPW British Heavyweight title shot against ZSJ.
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Post by Fundertaker on Nov 12, 2019 13:39:02 GMT -5
The Ultimate Royal and the Kensuke Sasaki/Kazuyuki Fujita title "match" might be the biggest ones for me.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 12, 2019 13:42:30 GMT -5
Honestly, I am tempted to count "letting Shibata be Shibata the last couple of years before he got super f***ed up".
I am sure some people talked to him. I know Tanahashi specifically called out his style of wrestling as being one without a future and being wary of it in I think a book. But just like when James Mitchell and Cornette bemoaned Abyss f***ing up his body because no one would tell him no and be firm with him, on consequence of disciplinary action, NJPW let him throw unprotected headbutts like a colossal jackass.
No one was surprised when Shibata's brain was bleeding. We knew it was coming, it was more a reaction of "I dreaded this day" than shock.
Barring that, them firing Captain New Japan for having a gambling problem, supposedly, is harsh, but I suppose they also kept him on longer than most major companies would have considering his lack of popularity or skill.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 13:46:37 GMT -5
Knowing The Elite was leaving, having the rest of Bullet Club turn on them, and then not having them feud so they could put over the Tongans and Jay White as the "real" Bullet Club on The Elite's way out.
Instead, the Elite guys just went on the Jericho Cruise and casually said "nah, we aren't in Bullet Club anymore. That Jay White's thing now." It made the Bullet Club look like losers that the popular guys just said "eh, you can have it" and Bullet Club hasn't recovered since.
Don't get me wrong, I dig El Phamtasmo and Ishimori, but Bullet Club hardly seems like a threat now.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Nov 12, 2019 13:56:21 GMT -5
Knowing The Elite was leaving, having the rest of Bullet Club turn on them, and then not having them feud so they could put over the Tongans and Jay White as the "real" Bullet Club on The Elite's way out. Instead, the Elite guys just went on the Jericho Cruise and casually said "nah, we aren't in Bullet Club anymore. That Jay White's thing now." It made the Bullet Club look like losers that the popular guys just said "eh, you can have it" and Bullet Club hasn't recovered since. Don't get me wrong, I dig El Phamtasmo and Ishimori, but Bullet Club hardly seems like a threat now. You would think that it could be attributed to the old wrestling chestnut of not wanting to job on the way out. But as far as I know the Elite were perfectly professional right up until the end. It reminds me of Broken Matt Hardy being by far the most over act in Impact willing to appear on a show to end the storyline since he didn’t want to re-sign for multiple years with them. Then Impact pretty much going, “Nah!”
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 13:59:55 GMT -5
Knowing The Elite was leaving, having the rest of Bullet Club turn on them, and then not having them feud so they could put over the Tongans and Jay White as the "real" Bullet Club on The Elite's way out. Instead, the Elite guys just went on the Jericho Cruise and casually said "nah, we aren't in Bullet Club anymore. That Jay White's thing now." It made the Bullet Club look like losers that the popular guys just said "eh, you can have it" and Bullet Club hasn't recovered since. Don't get me wrong, I dig El Phamtasmo and Ishimori, but Bullet Club hardly seems like a threat now. You would think that it could be attributed to the old wrestling chestnut of not wanting to job on the way out. But as far as I know the Elite were perfectly professional right up until the end. It reminds me of Broken Matt Hardy being by far the most over act in Impact willing to appear on a show to end the storyline since he didn’t want to re-sign for multiple years with them. Then Impact pretty much going, “Nah!” Yeah, the last NJPW show the Elite were on was Wrestle Kingdom, and literally all of them lost their matches on the way out. So it couldn't have been that they didn't want to do the job. That makes it even weirder.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 12, 2019 14:00:49 GMT -5
Ending the Bullet Club Civil War with a wet fart is definitely a lolNJPW moment.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 12, 2019 14:06:45 GMT -5
Knowing The Elite was leaving, having the rest of Bullet Club turn on them, and then not having them feud so they could put over the Tongans and Jay White as the "real" Bullet Club on The Elite's way out. Instead, the Elite guys just went on the Jericho Cruise and casually said "nah, we aren't in Bullet Club anymore. That Jay White's thing now." It made the Bullet Club look like losers that the popular guys just said "eh, you can have it" and Bullet Club hasn't recovered since. Don't get me wrong, I dig El Phamtasmo and Ishimori, but Bullet Club hardly seems like a threat now. KENTA joining did help a lot to reinvigorate things, but BC really do seem like they could use some new blood, probably someone with a Jay tie. I guess Hikuleo will be good as an addition whenever he comes back, on account of being huge, but that's also just adding to the Tongan portion of the Club and not something that'd bolster Jay so much.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 14:23:35 GMT -5
Here’s the thing. Not really finishing the bullet club civil war was super unsatisfying. However, it actually worked for what BC now is. Bare in mind, the Elite leaving BC wasn’t Omega losing the belt, it was the Tongans kicking the shit out of them and later siding with White. BC had for years been the cool group, but the way they sided with white, after kicking the elites ass, established them again as pure heels. KENTAs turn and great heel run has further cemented that. So has ELP being the biggest dickhead in the whole company.
Yes i would’ve liked a big elite vs bc tag match to finish the feud, but what we got works as well. Hell even in the being the elite videos, Tonga was always portrayed as being above their nonsense. They kicked them out, reformed and moved on without them, whilst reestablishing themselves as the actual heels of New Japan which is what the idea always was, And I want that so much in my wrestling. AEW Has that somewhat with the IC and MJF. WWE doesn’t have it at all. But in bullet clubs current iteration I have a group of twats I want to see get beat. And them simply moving on from the elite because they’re no longer useful to them works for me. They’re not cool, theyre not hard, they’re assholes and I like to see them lose.
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Post by James Fabiano on Nov 12, 2019 14:24:21 GMT -5
Wanting the Ultimate Warrior to be Big Van Vader?
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 12, 2019 14:42:02 GMT -5
Knowing The Elite was leaving, having the rest of Bullet Club turn on them, and then not having them feud so they could put over the Tongans and Jay White as the "real" Bullet Club on The Elite's way out. Instead, the Elite guys just went on the Jericho Cruise and casually said "nah, we aren't in Bullet Club anymore. That Jay White's thing now." It made the Bullet Club look like losers that the popular guys just said "eh, you can have it" and Bullet Club hasn't recovered since. Don't get me wrong, I dig El Phamtasmo and Ishimori, but Bullet Club hardly seems like a threat now. KENTA joining did help a lot to reinvigorate things, but BC really do seem like they could use some new blood, probably someone with a Jay tie. I guess Hikuleo will be good as an addition whenever he comes back, on account of being huge, but that's also just adding to the Tongan portion of the Club and not something that'd bolster Jay so much. Thing is, though, anyone with ties to Jay at this point is also going to have ties to Fale. So it's always going to look like "Oh yeah, the Tongans" even if the recruit isn't Tongan themself.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 12, 2019 14:55:28 GMT -5
KENTA joining did help a lot to reinvigorate things, but BC really do seem like they could use some new blood, probably someone with a Jay tie. I guess Hikuleo will be good as an addition whenever he comes back, on account of being huge, but that's also just adding to the Tongan portion of the Club and not something that'd bolster Jay so much. Thing is, though, anyone with ties to Jay at this point is also going to have ties to Fale. So it's always going to look like "Oh yeah, the Tongans" even if the recruit isn't Tongan themself. I guess maybe someone who acts as his protoge, then, though Jay's young enough that it's kind of a hard sell, maybe.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Nov 12, 2019 16:06:04 GMT -5
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Lesnar's title reign yet... I just knew it was going to end badly when I first heard he won the IWGP title.
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Post by Fundertaker on Nov 12, 2019 16:26:30 GMT -5
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Lesnar's title reign yet... I just knew it was going to end badly when I first heard he won the IWGP title. At the same time, it kinda did make sense, sorta. He was the hot gaijin free agent in the wrestling world and New Japan at the time was all in on that (see: Josh Barnett, Bob Sapp). The reign only truly became bad when it was transparent that Lesnar would only defend against people he wanted with a token defence against Nakamura because it was in his contract. Before that it was just "WTF, did they really went in that direction... again?"
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