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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 23:02:37 GMT -5
OH my God, it finally ended!
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Nov 18, 2019 23:02:44 GMT -5
The funniest thing about these invasions is they're treated like outsiders, yet they get their theme songs played and everything. And it still took me a few seconds to figure out who it was for
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Nov 18, 2019 23:02:51 GMT -5
Undisputed ERA blatantly working together with members of Team Ciampa in the brawl. Yuck.
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Post by nisidhe on Nov 18, 2019 23:03:19 GMT -5
Someone was missing from the NXT contingent this evening. Maybe he got Sting's kind of contract where he only has to show for so many appearances and they've used them all up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 23:03:19 GMT -5
Okay, I must know. What happened to Kevin Owens, where the bastard?
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Nov 18, 2019 23:03:20 GMT -5
The Smackdown guys wearing shirts with big Fox logos on them was hilarious.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Nov 18, 2019 23:04:02 GMT -5
Maybe it might have been just me but that sounded like the most unenthused crowd I have ever heard for a lockeroom brawl like they did not give a shit about what was going on. Wasn't there at least three matches that didn't have an ending? Like, there's no reason to care about anything that happens. I would be pissed if I paid to go to a show like that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 23:04:08 GMT -5
Maybe it might have been just me but that sounded like the most unenthused crowd I have ever heard for a lockeroom brawl like they did not give a shit about what was going on. Yeah, I can't say I blame them. We've been getting that on just about every show lately.
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Post by Hypnosis on Nov 18, 2019 23:04:55 GMT -5
Undisputed ERA blatantly working together with members of Team Ciampa in the brawl. Yuck. That's what I don't like about "brand supremacy".
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Post by Doctor No on Nov 18, 2019 23:05:04 GMT -5
HHH is the only company official that cares about Survivor Series đ
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 23:06:46 GMT -5
Welp, that was a Raw. Can't wait for Wednesday.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 23:07:09 GMT -5
The Smackdown guys wearing shirts with big Fox logos on them was hilarious. Even funnier was that one guy (I'm pretty sure it was Roode) didn't have the Fox logo on back, so his looked like a bootleg.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 23:15:56 GMT -5
The Smackdown guys wearing shirts with big Fox logos on them was hilarious. Even funnier was that one guy (I'm pretty sure it was Roode) didn't have the Fox logo on back, so his looked like a bootleg. I loved that Lio Rush was out there with Team NXT trying to kick some ass. He's so getting grounded.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 23:18:33 GMT -5
Have they ever bothered to explain why the characters care about âbrand supremacyâ? I feel like thatâs a pretty easy fix, with someone saying âthe winning brand gets cash bonusesâ or something, but seems like characters are positioned to stand up for the brand regardless of whether it makes sense for their characters to do so. Never makes any sense, and maybe thatâs why the live crowd doesnât give a damn.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 23:21:05 GMT -5
Have they ever bothered to explain why the characters care about âbrand supremacyâ? I feel like thatâs a pretty easy fix, with someone saying âthe winning brand gets cash bonusesâ or something, but seems like characters are positioned to stand up for the brand regardless of whether it makes sense for their characters to do so. Never makes any sense, and maybe thatâs why the live crowd doesnât give a damn. The winning show getting the 30 spot in the Rumble would be good too. Who cares about BRAGGING RIGHTS?
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Post by cabbageboy on Nov 18, 2019 23:30:12 GMT -5
I can kinda see why the NXT guys care about it since they are the perceived 3rd tier developmental brand. I have no idea why Raw or SD would care at all. It's not like Raw's dominant sweep of SD sent that show spiraling down to the point where Fox wasn't interested in the deal anymore.
And no, they aren't beating AEW on Wed. just because they are threatening to have Raw and SD "invade." They didn't announce any names so it's too abstract to matter.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 23:36:17 GMT -5
Have they ever bothered to explain why the characters care about âbrand supremacyâ? I feel like thatâs a pretty easy fix, with someone saying âthe winning brand gets cash bonusesâ or something, but seems like characters are positioned to stand up for the brand regardless of whether it makes sense for their characters to do so. Never makes any sense, and maybe thatâs why the live crowd doesnât give a damn. The winning show getting the 30 spot in the Rumble would be good too. Who cares about BRAGGING RIGHTS? Wow, it's been 10 years since they decided to create that useless * Bragging Rights* PPV.
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Post by hbkid718 on Nov 19, 2019 0:03:34 GMT -5
Have they ever bothered to explain why the characters care about âbrand supremacyâ? I feel like thatâs a pretty easy fix, with someone saying âthe winning brand gets cash bonusesâ or something, but seems like characters are positioned to stand up for the brand regardless of whether it makes sense for their characters to do so. Never makes any sense, and maybe thatâs why the live crowd doesnât give a damn. The winning show getting the 30 spot in the Rumble would be good too. Who cares about BRAGGING RIGHTS? I have said that from the minute they started doing Raw VS Smackdown at Survivor Series. The winning brand gets the #30 Spot and then all of the Survivors from that brand can compete to determine the actual #30 Entrant.
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Post by hbkid718 on Nov 19, 2019 0:04:12 GMT -5
A really fun Raw. The 1st hour of Raw was OK. Lynchâs promo was good, but her & Flair VS The Iiconics was horrible, but the attack afterward was OK, Carrillo VS Anderson was really good, as was The OCâs promo before the match. Rollinsâ promo was OK. Then, it went downhill with Lanaâs horrendous promo & Jose VS Lashley. But, the 2nd hour picked up with a great match between Rollins & Andrade, with a surprise attack. Tozawa VS Murphy was a great showcase of both wrestlers, Rowanâs squash was a waste of time, Ortonâs promo was good, & Owens VS McIntyre was excellent, until the finish. Heymanâs promo was OK. Natalya VS Asuka was good. The main event was fun, but the ending was unbelievable. Thatâs how you end a go-home show for Survivor Series, but we still have NXT & Smackdown.
Here are the Facts & Stats for RAW: - Charlotte Flair & Becky Lynch VS The Iiconics was the 1st time in 2019 that Flair wrestled 4 weeks in a row on Raw, the 1st time since October 14 that Lynch wrestled 2 weeks in a row in Raw, Lynchâs 2nd week in a row in the Raw opener, Flairâs 3rd week in a row in the Raw opener, & was Billie Kay & Peyton Royceâs 1st Raw match since October 28 & their 1st opener since April 1 - Humberto Carrillo VS Karl Anderson was the 1st time in 2019 that Carrillo wrestled 6 weeks in a row on Raw, the 1st time since October 7 that Anderson wrestled 3 weeks in a row on Raw, & was his 1st Singles Match since he lost to Ricochet on Raw on July 8 - No Way Jose VS Bobby Lashley was Joseâs 1st Raw match since he lost to Bobby Roode on August 12 & was Lashleyâs 1st Raw match since a Battle Royal on July 15 & his 1st Singles Match on Raw since he defeated Rey Mysterio on July 8 - Seth Rollins VS Andrade was the 1st time in 2019 that Andrade wrestled 5 weeks in a row on Raw, the 1st time since September 30 that Rollins wrestled 5 weeks in a row on Raw, & was Rollinsâ 50th Match on TV & PPV in 2019, making him the 2nd wrestler after Ricochet to compete in over 50 matches in 2019, & was Andradeâs 1st loss since he lost to The Miz on Smackdown on September 10, & was the 61st Disqualification of 2019, & the 5th week in a row on Raw - Akira Tozawa VS Buddy Murphy was Murphyâs 1st Raw since November 4, Tozawaâs 1st Raw of 2019, his 1st Raw since he won a 6-Man Tag Team Match on December 25, 2017, his 1st Singles Match on Raw since he defeated Neville to win the Cruiserweight Title on August 14, 2017, & was the 4th match to be re-matched from Elimination Chamber & their 2nd match against each other, & their 1st re-match - Alex Malcolm VS Erick Rowan was the 1st time in 2019 that Rowan wrestled 2 weeks in a row on Raw & was the 5th week in a row Raw had an Enhancement Match - Kevin Owens VS Drew McIntyre was the 1st time since March 25 that McIntyre wrestled 5 weeks in a row on Raw, & was the 1t time since June 24 that Owens wrestled 2 weeks in a row on Raw & was Owensâ 1st Singles Match on Raw since he lost to Kofi Kingston on June 24, the 33rd No Contest of 2019, the 1st since Smackdown on November 15, the 1st on Raw since September 30, & the 1st time there was a Disqualification & a No Contest on the same show since Smackdown on November 15 - Natalya VS Asuka was Natalyaâs 1st Raw since November 4 & her 1st Singles Match on Raw since she defeated Lacey Evans o October 7, & was the 1st time in 2019 that Asuka wrestled 3 weeks in a row on Raw & was her 1st Singles Match since she lost to Charlotte Flair on Smackdown on March 26, 2019, & her 1st Singles Match on Raw since she defeated an Enhancement Talent on March 26, 2018, & the 1st time since November 4 that Raw had 2 Womenâs Matches - Randy Orton & Ricochet VS The Viking Raiders was the 16th Raw Tag Team Championship Match of 2019 & the 1st since Raw on October 14, Ricochet & Ortonâs 2nd week in a row in the Raw main event, Erik & Ivarâs 13th week in a row on Raw & their 1st main event since September 9, & was the 34th No Contest of 2019 & the 1st time there were 2 No Contests on the same show in 2019
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Post by hbkid718 on Nov 19, 2019 12:23:29 GMT -5
A really fun Raw. The 1st hour of Raw was OK. Lynchâs promo was good, but her & Flair VS The Iiconics was horrible, but the attack afterward was OK, Carrillo VS Anderson was really good, as was The OCâs promo before the match. Rollinsâ promo was OK. Then, it went downhill with Lanaâs horrendous promo & Jose VS Lashley. But, the 2nd hour picked up with a great match between Rollins & Andrade, with a surprise attack. Tozawa VS Murphy was a great showcase of both wrestlers, Rowanâs squash was a waste of time, Ortonâs promo was good, & Owens VS McIntyre was excellent, until the finish. Heymanâs promo was OK. Natalya VS Asuka was good. The main event was fun, but the ending was unbelievable. Thatâs how you end a go-home show for Survivor Series, but we still have NXT & Smackdown. Here are the Facts & Stats for RAW: - Charlotte Flair & Becky Lynch VS The Iiconics was the 1st time in 2019 that Flair wrestled 4 weeks in a row on Raw, the 1st time since October 14 that Lynch wrestled 2 weeks in a row in Raw, Lynchâs 2nd week in a row in the Raw opener, Flairâs 3rd week in a row in the Raw opener, & was Billie Kay & Peyton Royceâs 1st Raw match since October 28 & their 1st opener since April 1 - Humberto Carrillo VS Karl Anderson was the 1st time in 2019 that Carrillo wrestled 6 weeks in a row on Raw, the 1st time since October 7 that Anderson wrestled 3 weeks in a row on Raw, & was his 1st Singles Match since he lost to Ricochet on Raw on July 8 - No Way Jose VS Bobby Lashley was Joseâs 1st Raw match since he lost to Bobby Roode on August 12 & was Lashleyâs 1st Raw match since a Battle Royal on July 15 & his 1st Singles Match on Raw since he defeated Rey Mysterio on July 8 - Seth Rollins VS Andrade was the 1st time in 2019 that Andrade wrestled 5 weeks in a row on Raw, the 1st time since September 30 that Rollins wrestled 5 weeks in a row on Raw, & was Rollinsâ 50th Match on TV & PPV in 2019, making him the 2nd wrestler after Ricochet to compete in over 50 matches in 2019, & was Andradeâs 1st loss since he lost to The Miz on Smackdown on September 10, & was the 61st Disqualification of 2019, & the 5th week in a row on Raw - Akira Tozawa VS Buddy Murphy was Murphyâs 1st Raw since November 4, Tozawaâs 1st Raw of 2019, his 1st Raw since he won a 6-Man Tag Team Match on December 25, 2017, his 1st Singles Match on Raw since he defeated Neville to win the Cruiserweight Title on August 14, 2017, & was the 4th match to be re-matched from Elimination Chamber & their 2nd match against each other, & their 1st re-match - Alex Malcolm VS Erick Rowan was the 1st time in 2019 that Rowan wrestled 2 weeks in a row on Raw & was the 5th week in a row Raw had an Enhancement Match - Kevin Owens VS Drew McIntyre was the 1st time since March 25 that McIntyre wrestled 5 weeks in a row on Raw, & was the 1t time since June 24 that Owens wrestled 2 weeks in a row on Raw & was Owensâ 1st Singles Match on Raw since he lost to Kofi Kingston on June 24, the 33rd No Contest of 2019, the 1st since Smackdown on November 15, the 1st on Raw since September 30, & the 1st time there was a Disqualification & a No Contest on the same show since Smackdown on November 15 - Natalya VS Asuka was Natalyaâs 1st Raw since November 4 & her 1st Singles Match on Raw since she defeated Lacey Evans o October 7, & was the 1st time in 2019 that Asuka wrestled 3 weeks in a row on Raw & was her 1st Singles Match since she lost to Charlotte Flair on Smackdown on March 26, 2019, & her 1st Singles Match on Raw since she defeated an Enhancement Talent on March 26, 2018, & the 1st time since November 4 that Raw had 2 Womenâs Matches - Randy Orton & Ricochet VS The Viking Raiders was the 16th Raw Tag Team Championship Match of 2019 & the 1st since Raw on October 14, Ricochet & Ortonâs 2nd week in a row in the Raw main event, Erik & Ivarâs 13th week in a row on Raw & their 1st main event since September 9, & was the 34th No Contest of 2019 & the 1st time there were 2 No Contests on the same show in 2019 UPDATE on Erick Rowanâs Opponent. This was Alex Malcomâs 2nd match in WWE in 2019. He competed as Randy Rowe in a loss to Braun Strowman on Raw on July 22.
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