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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Dec 3, 2019 22:29:54 GMT -5
Commentators that actively struggle with not treating non-white wrestlers like novelty acts shouldn't be anywhere near the booth in 2019.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 3, 2019 22:33:08 GMT -5
Commentators that actively struggle with not treating non-white wrestlers like novelty acts shouldn't be anywhere near the booth in 2019. Judging how Memphis booked non white wrestlers, it’s safe to say Lawler still has that mentality.
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Post by government mule on Dec 3, 2019 23:48:50 GMT -5
I find it mad that it is nearly 2020, and we still have Jim Ross, Jerry Lawler, Jim Cornette and Tony Schiavone as relevant commentators in the wrestling industry.
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Post by ogreknee on Dec 4, 2019 0:24:05 GMT -5
Just curious. I'm not even going entirely for "whataboutism" here, but Lawler adopting the old phony Asian accent in reference to the Kabuki Warriors seems like several miles worse than what Cornette said on Powerrr. Or JR's line about "Orientals" that he immediately apologized for. And it's not like the Raw thread had anyone defending Lawler's commentary in general. That all being said, that there's been mostly silence regarding it doesn't exactly refute the conspiracy theory that Cornette was done in more by AEW/Joey Janela/Joey Ryan fans than by actual offended people. And I hate conspiracy theories as a general rule. But the shoe is slowly starting to fit here. As an asian who heard all the joke and microaggressions Yeah lawler is trash But for white people as long as they are not overtly racist to black people it is no big deal Lawler is shit I find it mad that it is nearly 2020, and we still have Jim Ross, Jerry Lawler, Jim Cornette and Tony Schiavone as relevant commentators in the wrestling industry. [br Tony is the most pc of them. And i love tony on dynamite. He enhances excalibur
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Post by government mule on Dec 4, 2019 0:43:44 GMT -5
Tony is the most pc of them. And i love tony on dynamite. He enhances excalibur Yeah, he's been fine thus far. I just find it mind-boggling that the commentary team for Starrcade 91 is the commentary team for AEW in 2019 (plus Excalibur of course) 28 years later!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 1:11:49 GMT -5
Aren't they on 7 second delay? They want the racism aired
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Dec 4, 2019 1:19:24 GMT -5
Tony is the most pc of them. And i love tony on dynamite. He enhances excalibur Yeah, he's been fine thus far. I just find it mind-boggling that the commentary team for Starrcade 91 is the commentary team for AEW in 2019 (plus Excalibur of course) 28 years later!
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Dec 4, 2019 1:28:54 GMT -5
Tony is the most pc of them. And i love tony on dynamite. He enhances excalibur Yeah, he's been fine thus far. I just find it mind-boggling that the commentary team for Starrcade 91 is the commentary team for AEW in 2019 (plus Excalibur of course) 28 years later! It's such an indictment of the emphasis on smooth, bland commentators that WWE has gotten behind full-bore. No face commentator since 2001 has even been allowed to have a personality - and as a result, there aren't any other truly beloved former WWE commentators floating around who could get a break elsewhere.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Dec 4, 2019 1:42:13 GMT -5
Hey, King is a legend. I remember his jokes about tv dinners and when he would flap his dickie.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 4, 2019 2:03:28 GMT -5
If you say this isn't about Cornette, this really is about Cornette
Cut that shit out. Call out King for his bullshit without trying to clear the name of Cornette or bring up the what about this person stupidity
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 2:11:14 GMT -5
Oh for f***'s sake. I'm goddamned tired of logging in and reading another shitty thing someone did posted by the "we're totally not doing this because we're bitter assholes about the Cornette firing" team as a thinly-veiled excuse to cry whataboutisms. It's tiresome. We need a rule for it where if you can't post it without that reasoning bleeding out of your post like a ruptured anus, then you shouldn't post it.
It's fine to be pissed off about Jerry Lawler being a shitty racist. It's another thing to wield the shitty racist like a cudgel at people on the board to suit your own shitty needs.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Dec 4, 2019 2:27:01 GMT -5
Jerry Lawler could honestly be sentenced to the negative zone and there'd be like three people and a horse upset about that.Like when he was announced as coming back for the premiere, people weren't happy. When the premiere happened people weren't happy. People have continued to be unhappy week on week since it went down and vocalized that constantly; he's been near-universally derided here for years. He hasn't had the rapid fall some other names have had but really only because he's been the bottom of the barrel for over a decade.
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Post by segaz on Dec 4, 2019 3:06:14 GMT -5
As an asian who heard all the joke and microaggressions Yeah lawler is trash But for white people as long as they are not overtly racist to black people it is no big deal If Lawler had a video like cornette where he sounded off on Asian people in the same way, or if he'd made a joke about....say rice and agent orange towards asuka, he would have been derided for that equally as much. Let's not play the "no one cares about racism towards anyone else besides black people" card. Because I don't see that ending very well here myself.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 4, 2019 3:22:40 GMT -5
I haven't watched Raw since April, so I'll take your word for it that Jerry Lawler is being bigoted trash on commentary again.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Dec 4, 2019 3:42:56 GMT -5
I have absolutely no idea what you’re referring to Lawler's "WE BEAT CHOO" during the Kabuki Warriors' entrance. Oh that? I took it him making fun of Asuka’s weird ass promo right before
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Post by Dub H on Dec 4, 2019 7:23:05 GMT -5
As an asian who heard all the joke and microaggressions Yeah lawler is trash But for white people as long as they are not overtly racist to black people it is no big deal If Lawler had a video like cornette where he sounded off on Asian people in the same way, or if he'd made a joke about....say rice and agent orange towards asuka, he would have been derided for that equally as much. Let's not play the "no one cares about racism towards anyone else besides black people" card. Because I don't see that ending very well here myself. Yeh in Cornette's case it was a history of blatant racist and sexist behavior ,combined with a small audience.
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Post by lemonyellowson on Dec 4, 2019 7:36:32 GMT -5
Legit question - If I speak in a faux English accent, not being English - or a faux American accent, not being american, am I racist?
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Post by eJm on Dec 4, 2019 7:56:32 GMT -5
Legit question - If I speak in a faux English accent, not being English - or a faux American accent, not being american, am I racist? As an English and American citizen, I feel like I'm enough of an expert to say absolutely not.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 4, 2019 7:56:34 GMT -5
Legit question - If I speak in a faux English accent, not being English - or a faux American accent, not being american, am I racist? Depends if you are playing on a stereotypical way of speaking like "Oh i'm a american,so i'm gonna speak like a texan/redneck"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 8:06:39 GMT -5
Anyone who remembers THAT promo should not be surprised.
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