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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 9, 2019 18:35:40 GMT -5
Nah he’s not really that bad and people have really got into him over the last year When he wants to work he can but he’s more Into his character work which I’m completely fine with. He’s a perfectly capable IC championship contender. He won’t ever touch the IWGP title but him along with others like SANADA should be the new people involved in the IC title scene When I started watching NJPW it blew my mind which people never won the IWGP Title. I was so used to the WWE where seems like so many "potential" main eventer got a run with the top title. Like the fact that Suzuki and SANADA might never win the World Title in there still makes me feel uncomfortable If it's any consolation, Suzuki's won NJPW's second tier belt, and did win AJPW and NOAH's top titles, along with RevPro's title. He's got a few world titles under his belt, anyhow. SANADA's definitely more of a mystery. He's very popular, and he's only 31, so it's certainly not outside the realm of possibility.
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Post by ogreknee on Dec 9, 2019 21:13:07 GMT -5
Certain reviewers hate ospreay and okada
Others hate yano and taichi
I like all 4
Taichi is kawada in hustle
But taichi is also damn good as his own king's road maniac
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Post by chrom on Dec 9, 2019 21:15:59 GMT -5
They came close in the early-mid-2000's. Like there's no reason Tadao Yasuda should have ever held that belt, but here we are. They also had guys like Fujita hanging around the belt for long periods of time. Then there was Bob Sapp, who yes, was probably over enough, but I do question if that's really the guy you want to put the pressure of carrying your company on. Especially considering the completely pointless way in he lost the belt which made the whole thing look like a complete waste of time. I dare not attempt to peer into the mind of Inoki. Good advice
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Post by King Devitt on Dec 9, 2019 21:45:03 GMT -5
Certain reviewers hate ospreay and okada Others hate yano and taichi I like all 4 Taichi is kawada in hustle But taichi is also damn good as his own king's road maniac Okada, Taichi, and Yano are all people I actively disliked when I watched NJPW regularly before Okada drove me away. Yano works in certain instances (his match with Mox was the only time I found him legitimately entertaining). With Taichi even his gimmick seems half-assed. He doesn't lip sync to his song correctly (I assume this is on purpose), the gimmick looks lazy, he has a horrible physique (I know I'm sounding like Vince over here), and all around I find him boring and one note. Much like Yano. Much like Okada (who is better at being a showman). He's not bad, as in Enzo Amore bad, but he's boring like Randy Orton, but with a gimmick he crutches on way too much. And he should keep the tearaway pants on.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 9, 2019 21:47:54 GMT -5
"Is Taichi the HOLY EMPEROR really that badnot fantastic?"
Why yes! Yes, he is!
NOW DANCE
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Post by Duke Cameron on Dec 9, 2019 22:46:28 GMT -5
One of my favorite guys in New Japan.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Dec 10, 2019 7:23:37 GMT -5
Taichi is good. NJPW is just not a good fit.
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Post by Andy Martin on Dec 10, 2019 9:29:17 GMT -5
From what I get he isnt really bad a smuch as he is more of a "WWE" Style Wrestler. Focused more on moments,selling his gimmick and brand to the public. But he is charismatic that is for sure And he’s got the voice of an angel!
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Post by corndog on Dec 10, 2019 13:41:06 GMT -5
Taichi can be pretty good when he wants to, he showed glimpses in the past, but now he tends to step up for big matches. His matches with Naito are usually a bunch of stalling and cheating because they both have a similar gimmick of acting like they don't care and therefore their matches become them trying to outdo each other in that aspect.
Two years ago, Taichi had a match with Yuma Aoyagi in All Japan at Sumo Hall and it was actually a good match. I realized Taichi can actually work, he just loves to troll the fans with his nonsense. When he became a heavyweight last year, he had a couple of good matches with Tanahashi and Naito, but then got discluded from the G1. He showed himself as a character by voicing his frustration with New Japan(mostly because Yoshi-Hashi was in the tournament and he wasn't) and then saying he didn't care, but he clearly did, much like his obsession with the NEVER title. It exposed him as a character because the reason he never tried or gave a shit was he felt it was for nothing and he would rather ruin everything for everyone else. But Ishii is the exact opposite although they come from very similar backgrounds, out of the indies into New Japan during it's low point, which is why Taichi respects him and fights him clean. At the same time, beating Ishii at his own game hurts him the most. Then getting into the G1 was something he always wanted and once New Japan gave him the opportunity, he had a reason to actually care and put effort into his matches.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 10, 2019 15:51:23 GMT -5
He has a pretty decent look in his entrrance with that mask, but then when he gets into a match... it's just Taichi.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 10, 2019 15:57:53 GMT -5
Certain reviewers hate ospreay and okada Others hate yano and taichi I like all 4 Taichi is kawada in hustle But taichi is also damn good as his own king's road maniac Yano has exactly one match when he's not against another comedy prone wrestler like Omega (for real, the only time I've ever laughed at one of his bits is when he suplexed Kenny onto the corner pads and Kenny came up like "WAIT A SECOND, THAT DIDN'T HURT AT ALL"), and while I understand that he's a breather match for everyone in one block, the fact he keeps winning matches that mathematically eliminate people with stuff like kicking Elgin in the balls and then pulling an Eddie Guerrero routine makes the referees look like a bunch of dumbasses.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 10, 2019 21:44:25 GMT -5
Certain reviewers hate ospreay and okada Others hate yano and taichi I like all 4 Taichi is kawada in hustle But taichi is also damn good as his own king's road maniac Yano has exactly one match when he's not against another comedy prone wrestler like Omega (for real, the only time I've ever laughed at one of his bits is when he suplexed Kenny onto the corner pads and Kenny came up like "WAIT A SECOND, THAT DIDN'T HURT AT ALL"), and while I understand that he's a breather match for everyone in one block, the fact he keeps winning matches that mathematically eliminate people with stuff like kicking Elgin in the balls and then pulling an Eddie Guerrero routine makes the referees look like a bunch of dumbasses. I think it'd probably help if refs were more consistent. It gets weird even having DQs if it's REALLY hard to get disqualified, like that match with Jay White and Juice where they stressed the hell out of "if Juice uses the cast, he's DQ'd", but Jay spends the entire match blatantly cheating on the outside while the ref is just completely indifferent to it. It was a good match, but they shit all over the arm cast angle part of it by structuring the match like that.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 12, 2019 18:07:13 GMT -5
Yano has exactly one match when he's not against another comedy prone wrestler like Omega (for real, the only time I've ever laughed at one of his bits is when he suplexed Kenny onto the corner pads and Kenny came up like "WAIT A SECOND, THAT DIDN'T HURT AT ALL"), and while I understand that he's a breather match for everyone in one block, the fact he keeps winning matches that mathematically eliminate people with stuff like kicking Elgin in the balls and then pulling an Eddie Guerrero routine makes the referees look like a bunch of dumbasses. I think it'd probably help if refs were more consistent. It gets weird even having DQs if it's REALLY hard to get disqualified, like that match with Jay White and Juice where they stressed the hell out of "if Juice uses the cast, he's DQ'd", but Jay spends the entire match blatantly cheating on the outside while the ref is just completely indifferent to it. It was a good match, but they shit all over the arm cast angle part of it by structuring the match like that. I do NOT get why they just let everyone cheat as long as it's outside the ring in NJPW. I know I'm ragging on a Yano spot again here, but from G1 last year, what kind of dipshit ref just lets Sanada tape him to a barricade in full view and then counts him out?
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 12, 2019 18:09:23 GMT -5
Taichi feels like he should be more important than he is, seeing as he's the "Anti-Naito". And also the "Anti-Ishii" to a lesser extent.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 12, 2019 18:30:17 GMT -5
Taichi feels like he should be more important than he is, seeing as he's the "Anti-Naito". And also the "Anti-Ishii" to a lesser extent. I kind of get the feeling Taichi and Sabre are Suzuki's right and left hand men, though Archer's kind of threatened that lately, and obviously, there's also TAKA to contend with since even if he's not presented as the same level of threat, he's been in the faction since the very beginning. Whenever Suzuki's tenure as boss ends, it's going to be tough to see who takes over, since I feel like whoever TAKA backs would be the winner.
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Post by Fundertaker on Dec 12, 2019 18:32:37 GMT -5
I think it'd probably help if refs were more consistent. It gets weird even having DQs if it's REALLY hard to get disqualified, like that match with Jay White and Juice where they stressed the hell out of "if Juice uses the cast, he's DQ'd", but Jay spends the entire match blatantly cheating on the outside while the ref is just completely indifferent to it. It was a good match, but they shit all over the arm cast angle part of it by structuring the match like that. I do NOT get why they just let everyone cheat as long as it's outside the ring in NJPW. I know I'm ragging on a Yano spot again here, but from G1 last year, what kind of dipshit ref just lets Sanada tape him to a barricade in full view and then counts him out? It's like different fed's have different approaches for a certain "rule" or something. In New Japan, if it's outside of the ring and at the ref's discretion, do whatever you want. In ECW you could do whatever you wanted wherever you wanted. In UWFi you lost points for even going to the ropes, imagine trying to use a foreign object. In WWE... they make it up for whatever's needed and then have commentary say "this rulling was a special case" if they even bother with it despite the fact that there's several equal cases where that wasn't applied. EDIT: TAKA hasn't been in NJPW for months. DOUKI is the other Jr. Heavyweight of Suzuki-gun now.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 12, 2019 18:42:03 GMT -5
Taichi feels like he should be more important than he is, seeing as he's the "Anti-Naito". And also the "Anti-Ishii" to a lesser extent. I kind of get the feeling Taichi and Sabre are Suzuki's right and left hand men, though Archer's kind of threatened that lately, and obviously, there's also TAKA to contend with since even if he's not presented as the same level of threat, he's been in the faction since the very beginning. Whenever Suzuki's tenure as boss ends, it's going to be tough to see who takes over, since I feel like whoever TAKA backs would be the winner. It's Suzuki-Gun. They're BOTH left-hand (Sinister) men.
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Post by chrom on Dec 12, 2019 19:23:14 GMT -5
Taichi feels like he should be more important than he is, seeing as he's the "Anti-Naito". And also the "Anti-Ishii" to a lesser extent. I kind of get the feeling Taichi and Sabre are Suzuki's right and left hand men, though Archer's kind of threatened that lately, and obviously, there's also TAKA to contend with since even if he's not presented as the same level of threat, he's been in the faction since the very beginning. Whenever Suzuki's tenure as boss ends, it's going to be tough to see who takes over, since I feel like whoever TAKA backs would be the winner. Taka was quietly fired from New Japan after the scandal he had been involved in back in the summer.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 12, 2019 19:25:28 GMT -5
I kind of get the feeling Taichi and Sabre are Suzuki's right and left hand men, though Archer's kind of threatened that lately, and obviously, there's also TAKA to contend with since even if he's not presented as the same level of threat, he's been in the faction since the very beginning. Whenever Suzuki's tenure as boss ends, it's going to be tough to see who takes over, since I feel like whoever TAKA backs would be the winner. Taka was quietly fired from New Japan after the scandal he had been involved in back in the summer. Ah, okay. I thought it was due to his injury in the tournament that he was gone, but fair enough, really.
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Post by chrom on Dec 12, 2019 19:27:43 GMT -5
Taka was quietly fired from New Japan after the scandal he had been involved in back in the summer. Ah, okay. I thought it was due to his injury in the tournament that he was gone, but fair enough, really. Yeah apparently he was in an affair and he got fired and had to step down from President of the K-Dojo promotion because of it.
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