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Post by CeilingFan on Dec 10, 2019 16:36:08 GMT -5
I can't remember the last time he won a match.
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Post by BRV on Dec 10, 2019 16:40:23 GMT -5
Per the Pro Wrestling Database, the last time Akira Tozawa was on the winning end of a decision was on 205 Live in early September in a tag team match with Brian Kendrick. Since then, he's 0-8.
But to my larger point, I don't think he's getting buried. He's not winning, but he's not being made out to look like a helpless jobber. He's getting in some offense, it's just that he's falling to superstars higher up on the card like Drew McIntyre or Andrade. I don't see that as a burial. In a wrestling match, it's inherent that someone wins and someone loses, not everyone is going to go .500 in every match.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 16:46:22 GMT -5
He's not getting buried if that Lio Rush match is any indication. Lio used everything in his arsenal included 2 finishers in order to beat Tozawa. You don't do that to buried stars.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Dec 10, 2019 16:47:02 GMT -5
I heard he called steak wraps an "American Burrito" and Vince got wind of it.
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Post by nisidhe on Dec 10, 2019 16:56:02 GMT -5
Compared to where Tozawa was a couple years ago, his handling now feels so much like an afterthought.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 17:23:55 GMT -5
Vince: I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE WHITE
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 17:28:30 GMT -5
I've really never understood anything they've ever done with Tozawa.
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Post by lucas_lee on Dec 10, 2019 17:30:27 GMT -5
Not everyone can be a top guy. I dont consider it a burial if he gets in a lot of offense. And its okay if some on the roster are job guys.
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Post by realist on Dec 10, 2019 17:31:08 GMT -5
Vince: I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE WHITE *Hulk Hogan, Lars Sullivan, and Michael Hayes stand and cheer*
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Post by Facetious on Dec 10, 2019 17:38:33 GMT -5
I heard he called steak wraps an "American Burrito" and Vince got wind of it. Vince: you want ketchup on your steak wrap? Tozawa: what? No?! Vince: >:[ !!!!!
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Dec 10, 2019 18:15:06 GMT -5
Have they considered screaming, “He’s Spider-Man!” 67 times per minute when he wrestles?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 10, 2019 18:19:22 GMT -5
Losing is not getting buried
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 10, 2019 18:20:20 GMT -5
I've really never understood anything they've ever done with Tozawa. Neville being so good really f***ed over Tozawa Instead of giving Tozawa a good run they put the title right back on Neville and add on the fact with Tozawa and Titus was really getting over too and they shut that down
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Post by eJm on Dec 10, 2019 18:31:11 GMT -5
I've really never understood anything they've ever done with Tozawa. Neville being so good really f***ed over Tozawa Instead of giving Tozawa a good run they put the title right back on Neville and add on the fact with Tozawa and Titus was really getting over too and they shut that down Still bitter about that to be honest. “We need our cruiserweights to stop being seen as people to be ignored and get them over with the audience!” *Titus Worldwide is a thing* “NOT LIKE THAT!”
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Post by Hypnosis on Dec 10, 2019 21:51:05 GMT -5
I heard he called steak wraps an "American Burrito" and Vince got wind of it. Vince: you want ketchup on your steak wrap? Tozawa: what? No?! Vince: >:[ !!!!! Vince:"What, you think you're a damn crow?! You think your parody of me is funny?! Back of the line, pal!"
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Dec 10, 2019 21:52:34 GMT -5
Vince found out about the monkey incident. Vince loves monkeys.
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Post by theironyuppie on Dec 10, 2019 21:55:51 GMT -5
Losing is not getting buried
This nicely articulates what is in my opinion, one of the most frustrating parts of wrestling fandom. You can't conflate losses with burials without looking more closely at the booking. Its fair to say Alexa/Bayley in 2017 was a burial due to the fact that there was the 'This Is Your Life, Bayley!' segment, the Extreme Rules kendo stick match, and the segment with her awkwardly hugging Corey Graves in the space of one week, as opposed to someone taking a couple of losses and having a highly competitive title match on NXT TV.
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Post by saneiac on Dec 10, 2019 23:39:48 GMT -5
Still bitter about that to be honest. I'm with you on that. Titus + Apollo + Tozawa was interesting. They did some Youtube videos together, like racing through a corn maze, that were a ton of fun. And then suddenly, with no explanation, Tozawa wasn't with them any more.
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Post by ogreknee on Dec 11, 2019 0:03:03 GMT -5
He can be used as an underdog. Dude is legit one of the best in wrestling.
He has so much it factor
Being on raw weekly is a good spot
Just wish he was tagged up with apollo
Let him cut more promos. Dude can speak english.
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Post by sportatorium on Dec 11, 2019 0:59:39 GMT -5
His match with Lio Rush was a classic & he sold like a champ for Aleister Black last night. He might be a guy to lose matches, but is definitely Showing why he belongs on TV.
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