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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 18, 2019 22:23:17 GMT -5
Valid question I feel as AEW ended the year with the Dark Order seemingly becoming the next hurdle (or force?) Being built.
With the Beaver Boys officially in I thing the question becomes whose the next to join? Michael Nakazawa? Brandon Cutler? Chris Daniel's? Hangman Page? Someone who has yet to debut?
Also as others have said it is awesome to see how Uno and Stu were able to recover from the awful beginning to their national debut and become a hot act.
I think the best way to end this post is simply... All hail the Dark Order
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Post by markymark on Dec 18, 2019 22:24:25 GMT -5
I will ask again, did anyone notice there was another purple mask guy next to Alex Reynolds?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 18, 2019 22:26:12 GMT -5
I will ask again, did anyone notice there was another purple mask guy next to Alex Reynolds? Yes I was expecting them to unmask as Page honestly
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Post by Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks on Dec 18, 2019 22:27:08 GMT -5
I want Nakazawa to join. I don't even know why, I just feel like it'll be immensely entertaining.
Daniels would definitely bump them up to 11 on the "oh shit, we'd better take this seriously" meter.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 18, 2019 22:29:26 GMT -5
It's a very broad pool for them really
Nakazawa is probably gonna be pissed that he got beat up by PAC
Daniels is doubting himself which could lead to SCU dissension and Dark Order could go for the belts
Page can't get it going and could potentially be Uno's prize if he can nab him
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 18, 2019 22:33:50 GMT -5
With guys like Nakazawa and Cutler you also have built in stories to keep the Bucks and Kenny somewhat preoccupied. Have them want revenge on Uno and Stu but Uno having them have to go through their friends first. There's a level of guilt that I feel companies havent fully committed to that could really build heat and sympathy.
Like Can you imagine Kenny going after uno and Nakazawa stepping in between them? And when Kenny hesitates Nak attacks? Or having a similar thing play between the Bucks and Cutler?
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Post by Perd on Dec 18, 2019 22:33:59 GMT -5
They should do a tie-in with Popeyes or KFC. Order a thigh and a leg, get a purple mask.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 18, 2019 22:39:21 GMT -5
I don't want Cutler to join. It'd make sense, but I think there's meat on him as an underdog babyface, plus with his wife and kids, I don't think I'd buy the whole "cast aside your family and join us" pitch appealing to him. Nakazawa, though, moreso, though I want it in part so Omega can face him and use the babyoil on himself to snap him out of it.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 18, 2019 22:41:50 GMT -5
We never did find out what happened to Nakazawa, did we?
Granted, I'm sure BTE will offer an explanation, it would be wild if PAC had uncovered his secret, and opted not to kill Nakazawa because this would ultimately hurt Kenny even more in the long run.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 18, 2019 22:56:07 GMT -5
I smell a new T-Shirt
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Post by cabbageboy on Dec 18, 2019 23:23:06 GMT -5
It might help if AEW ever actually explained who The Elite are. I'm actually hazy on who is in the group right now. Is Dustin a member or just an ally?
Here is the major flaw with the Dark Order as currently constituted: They are actively recruiting jobbers. I mean who cares? Reynolds and Silver joined tonight. Fine, but it's still recruiting two total jobbers. If Nakazawa or Cutler join it's just two more jobbers for the parade of jobber creepers. It would honestly take someone like Page joining to give any of this meaning.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 23:36:10 GMT -5
It might help if AEW ever actually explained who The Elite are. I'm actually hazy on who is in the group right now. Is Dustin a member or just an ally? Here is the major flaw with the Dark Order as currently constituted: They are actively recruiting jobbers. I mean who cares? Reynolds and Silver joined tonight. Fine, but it's still recruiting two total jobbers. If Nakazawa or Cutler join it's just two more jobbers for the parade of jobber creepers. It would honestly take someone like Page joining to give any of this meaning. I think it works the way they're playing it - the Dark Order's power comes from their sheer numbers. Yeah, right now it's a bunch of nobodies and jobbers, but if those nobodies and jobbers suddenly become feared threats due to just how many of them there are, it'll potentially inspire people higher up the food chain to start listening to what Uno has to say because they want to be on the dominant side.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Dec 18, 2019 23:40:24 GMT -5
It might help if AEW ever actually explained who The Elite are. I'm actually hazy on who is in the group right now. Is Dustin a member or just an ally? Here is the major flaw with the Dark Order as currently constituted: They are actively recruiting jobbers. I mean who cares? Reynolds and Silver joined tonight. Fine, but it's still recruiting two total jobbers. If Nakazawa or Cutler join it's just two more jobbers for the parade of jobber creepers. It would honestly take someone like Page joining to give any of this meaning. I think it works the way they're playing it - the Dark Order's power comes from their sheer numbers. Yeah, right now it's a bunch of nobodies and jobbers, but if those nobodies and jobbers suddenly become feared threats due to just how many of them there are, it'll potentially inspire people higher up the food chain to start listening to what Uno has to say because they want to be on the dominant side. The parade of jobbers managed to lay everyone out, including The Elite, just by overwhelming them with That Numbers Game.
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Post by warden on Dec 19, 2019 0:35:00 GMT -5
I think it works the way they're playing it - the Dark Order's power comes from their sheer numbers. Yeah, right now it's a bunch of nobodies and jobbers, but if those nobodies and jobbers suddenly become feared threats due to just how many of them there are, it'll potentially inspire people higher up the food chain to start listening to what Uno has to say because they want to be on the dominant side. The parade of jobbers managed to lay everyone out, including The Elite, just by overwhelming them with That Numbers Game. You thought the dark order were jobbers but it was actually us, the elite, all along
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 19, 2019 3:40:06 GMT -5
We never did find out what happened to Nakazawa, did we? Granted, I'm sure BTE will offer an explanation, it would be wild if PAC had uncovered his secret, and opted not to kill Nakazawa because this would ultimately hurt Kenny even more in the long run. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Nakazawa will be in a DARK Segment with PAC next week if the results are an indication
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 19, 2019 4:06:13 GMT -5
It might help if AEW ever actually explained who The Elite are. I'm actually hazy on who is in the group right now. Is Dustin a member or just an ally? Here is the major flaw with the Dark Order as currently constituted: They are actively recruiting jobbers. I mean who cares? Reynolds and Silver joined tonight. Fine, but it's still recruiting two total jobbers. If Nakazawa or Cutler join it's just two more jobbers for the parade of jobber creepers. It would honestly take someone like Page joining to give any of this meaning. Dustin is not a member of the Elite, no, just allied with them due to being Cody's brother. It's sort of like how Cutler and Nakazawa are not members, despite being close to the Bucks and Omega, respectively. It's sort of like how Kane wasn't in DX when he was partnered with X-Pac.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 19, 2019 4:14:43 GMT -5
It might help if AEW ever actually explained who The Elite are. The Elite are the former members of Bullet Club who split off from the New Japan faction before the formation of AEW. The only people who are truly members of The Elite are The Young Bucks, Kenny Omega, Cody, Hangman Page, and Marty Scurll. Of the last two, who knows if and when Marty will decide to acknowledge his "dead friends," while Adam Page quit the group a few weeks ago. Anyone else like Nakazawa, Cutler, Dustin, SCU, etc. can be considered associates or family friends, but aren't officially The Elite.
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Dec 19, 2019 7:53:30 GMT -5
I will ask again, did anyone notice there was another purple mask guy next to Alex Reynolds? Yeah, it was the first thing I asked when they hit the ring. What's with the purple creeper? From context after, it seems purple is for new initiates. I think the guy was too skinny/lanky to be Page or Daniels. So maybe he wasn't anyone in particular? Still, a nice visual queue going forward Edit: Oh, forgot Cutler til someone mentioned him, could be him?
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Post by Dub H on Dec 19, 2019 9:07:45 GMT -5
I want Nakazawa to join. I don't even know why, I just feel like it'll be immensely entertaining. Daniels would definitely bump them up to 11 on the "oh shit, we'd better take this seriously" meter. I feel like Nakazawa being beat up gives him an "excuse" to why he wasn't there that night. I expect one bigger name to join the Dark Order,probably Daniels or Page
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Post by King Devitt on Dec 19, 2019 9:13:50 GMT -5
Hopefully taking the belts off of the crowd deflaters SCU.
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