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Post by héad.casé on Dec 24, 2019 7:34:22 GMT -5
"One of the things that I don't think people talk about enough is the mental toll of dealing with an injury because it's hard to be away from something that you love doing, especially when we're in a group and we see each other all the time. And now, even the 6 weeks I was away, you turn on the TV and there you guys are and you're not a part of that."
"There are so many athletes who deal with depression after they have a major injury and a lot of us just don't talk about it and we just move through it," Big E admitted. "But it's difficult and very common, and something that definitely happened with me because we've been together for 5 years. This is something you want to do for your entire life. And now, not only are you away from it, but the uncertainty of being able to trust your body again to do what it needs to. We don't have a pension. There's no backup plan. That's why everyone tells you to save your money because if for some reason you have issues with that injury and you can never wrestle again, no one else is going to look out for you. There's no plan to make sure your family continues to eat. And when you're out of the spotlight and off TV, does anyone care? Like, there's a lot of uncertainty with that stuff and I think it takes a huge mental toll on athletes and people who deal with major injuries. And it's difficult, man. It's really hard dealing with being depressed, and the fears, and all of the issues that come with a major injury."
"With the meniscus thing, when I'm in the hospital, I'm in the bed. I just finished my surgery and I turn on the TV and I know Kofi and Woods have to do what you have to do, but I see you two and there's Big O! There's Kevin Owens doing my intro that I came up with and doing my tag move with you."
"So I get it and I have to suck it up and be a man and laugh it off, but it feels like a slap in the face to see someone in your position just doing your stuff. I felt disrespected. And, I don't know. Obviously, it wasn't an idea you guys (Kofi and Woods) came up with, so there was no issue with you. But just from that larger picture, just that you're alone in a hospital room - you can have family there and whatever, but I was alone and I was there, but everything goes on without you, and you just move on, and does anyone care? Does it even matter? And you feel very alone in the situation."
Source: New Day: Feel The Power podcast
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2019 7:42:44 GMT -5
What kind of disgusting, despit--de--despicable lack of respect
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Post by ronin705 on Dec 24, 2019 8:07:49 GMT -5
I personally liked it, and thought they shouldn't have forced the Owens heel turn JUST for Kofi's reign. Would've made more sense to bring this disrespected feeling back, and make some money off the angle.
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Post by King Devitt: Scrum Guzzler on Dec 24, 2019 9:19:22 GMT -5
Stuff like this is why Big E should have turned heel on Kofi and took the title from him. It writes itself.
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Post by facethatrunstheplace on Dec 24, 2019 10:05:57 GMT -5
Stuff like this is why Big E should have turned heel on Kofi and took the title from him. It writes itself. I've seen so many people suggest this because they think that the New Day have done everything as a tag team. But they haven't, they once said that they wanted to be 10 time tag team champions. They're half way there as they are 7 time tag team champions at the moment. But they've said multiple times that they don't want to break up. They are a team inside the ring and outside the ring. This is proven by the fact that they've all signed 5 year deals recently and if the reports are to be believed the duration and their wages will be exactly the same. |
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Dec 24, 2019 10:11:42 GMT -5
I understand fear of injury/not being able to wrestle again, but I would THINK Big E would get some kind of job with the company backstage as long as he wants one
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2019 10:22:13 GMT -5
Stuff like this is why Big E should have turned heel on Kofi and took the title from him. It writes itself. Not when the guys don't wanna do it. Hell, Kofi himself said this week it's only a matter of time until Big E is world champion. Sounds like that is their next big goal. |
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Post by héad.casé on Dec 24, 2019 10:37:07 GMT -5
Stuff like this is why Big E should have turned heel on Kofi and took the title from him. It writes itself. Not when the guys don't wanna do it. Hell, Kofi himself said this week it's only a matter of time until Big E is world champion. Sounds like that is their next big goal. This is why i'm glad that with all the talk way back of Roman and E being the two choices to be the company ace, that they chose Roman. Because E wasn't ready then. He had an Intercontinental Title reign that I don't think people really remember, and once he got with Kofi and Woods, all three dudes got to shine and show how big their personalities are in the tag scene because it was something the tippy top management guys didn't really care about. Big E is a ready made World Champion right now and has been for the last year or so. All he needs is the shot and an angle as well booked as Kofi's rise. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2019 10:39:51 GMT -5
Not when the guys don't wanna do it. Hell, Kofi himself said this week it's only a matter of time until Big E is world champion. Sounds like that is their next big goal. This is why i'm glad that with all the talk way back of Roman and E being the two choices to be the company ace, that they chose Roman. Because E wasn't ready then. He had an Intercontinental Title reign that I don't think people really remember, and once he got with Kofi and Woods, all three dudes got to shine and show how big their personalities are in the tag scene because it was something the tippy top management guys didn't really care about. Big E is a ready made World Champion right now and has been for the last year or so. All he needs is the shot and an angle as well booked as Kofi's rise. Right. That's one reason why I like New Day because they don't do the whole "its me vs everyone" thing a lot of others do. They all push hard for the others' rise given they're a group even more than The Shield did when they were together. For example, New Day recently all signed 5 year deals and the catch was they all had to get the same contract details. They all are making major bank right now with the same time length, same exact pay, all for solidity of the group. Now they wanna help Big E get his time which I'm sure he will given the guy's only 33. Woods is probably gonna be next for that IC Title scene as Kofi will be the veteran helping his boys and making sure he does what he can. |
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Post by edgestar on Dec 24, 2019 10:42:42 GMT -5
I understand his point, and the frustration with the company. I doubt KO would really want to have that, to take from E. Plus, Big O is just a laugh for the innuendo.
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Post by bob on Dec 24, 2019 10:50:58 GMT -5
What kind of disgusting, despit--de--despicable lack of respect I can't pass up not posting this  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2019 18:46:16 GMT -5
I'm absolutely of the viewpoint that it's well past time for New Day to break up. Like, I know they don't want to, but as a viewer I don't really care what they want? It's still pretty much a stable that's been done to death at this point and once you got to the point where Kofi was WWE Champion while Big E and Xavier had the tag titles then they basically hit the apex of what you can even do with them.
Guess you could do Kofi and Xavier as tag champions while Big E's the singles guy, but really that'd just be treading old ground except not as good.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2019 19:28:30 GMT -5
I'm absolutely of the viewpoint that it's well past time for New Day to break up. Like, I know they don't want to, but as a viewer I don't really care what they want? It's still pretty much a stable that's been done to death at this point and once you got to the point where Kofi was WWE Champion while Big E and Xavier had the tag titles then they basically hit the apex of what you can even do with them.Guess you could do Kofi and Xavier as tag champions while Big E's the singles guy, but really that'd just be treading old ground except not as good. I disagree, you can do a lot with them as a stable still. I'm not saying it'll happen but these are pretty easy scenarios to create. - One as world champion, one as IC Champion and another as Cruiserweight Champion - One splits onto the other brand but still reps New Day and said member becomes world champion while on the other brand they hold the world and IC titles - New Day tries to help Big E become champion like they helped Kofi and then afterwards they try the same with Xavier so all three can be world champion - New Day turns heel as one's champion and they all do what they can to make sure their guy stays champion as they face off against 3 guys - A new belt's introduced for 3 man teams and New Day runs it - New Day heads to NXT so Kofi and Xavier get that title since Big E's already held it - A woman joins New Day Let alone future feuds with guys like AOP and Rollins, an official feud with The Club since they never really had one with AJ against Kofi, you can do a "Kofi's going to win the Rumble but can he win if he's against his brothers" storyline, you can do the easy "will New Day break up" storylines. Hell, you can do one that we've never seen on this scale and that's New Day being the heads of whatever show they're on and they're the heels. No Authority, they call all the shots so you can have all the faces against them because they're the headliners.
All of these things are probably not going to happen but when it comes to what you can do with them there's a large amount there. The issue isn't that they've ran out of options, the issue is that we know the company is limited as to what will happen.
I think whatever they'll do next will depend on whatever happens in the Rumble and Wrestlemania. Right now SDL doesn't really have any major contenders for them. Xavier's gonna be out a while so when he returns there's a lot they can do. Until then they'll probably be coasting. Personally I'd go back with Kofi facing upper midcard guys as Big E holds it down in the IC title scene but that's me. Kofi/Wyatt has potential especially if Kofi's kids come into play.
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Post by Brian Suntan on Dec 24, 2019 20:24:46 GMT -5
Obviously his feelings are his feelings so I don't know if it's right for me to say he's wrong. But... he is wrong.
The Big O stuff was done and worked because of how loved Big E is. It was nothing but respect and kept his character and his mannerisms over while he was injured.
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Post by Kyle Butler on Dec 24, 2019 20:42:23 GMT -5
What kind of disgusting, despit--de--despicable lack of respect Somebody remove Billy Whatshisname from the creative team! |
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Post by DSR on Dec 24, 2019 23:12:47 GMT -5
I was thinking of the Big O stuff as an "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" kinda thing. Though I also would've hoped someone at WWE would call E and get his blessing for it first.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2019 2:22:01 GMT -5
Stuff like this is why Big E should have turned heel on Kofi and took the title from him. It writes itself. Not when the guys don't wanna do it. Hell, Kofi himself said this week it's only a matter of time until Big E is world champion. Sounds like that is their next big goal. I would actually think a more interesting story would be for the whole group to go heel and have Xaviar come forward as sort of a mastermind who has orchestrated all of their success, using their team coordination to finally put himself on top as champion. |
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Post by Hypnosis on Dec 25, 2019 8:59:54 GMT -5
Not when the guys don't wanna do it. Hell, Kofi himself said this week it's only a matter of time until Big E is world champion. Sounds like that is their next big goal. I would actually think a more interesting story would be for the whole group to go heel and have Xaviar come forward as sort of a mastermind who has orchestrated all of their success, using their team coordination to finally put himself on top as champion. Or Woods starts using the UpUpDownDown Championship as his version of the Million Dollar Title. |
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Post by Dub H on Dec 25, 2019 9:10:52 GMT -5
I would agree if this was like a long-term thing
"Oh just slap someone else as Big E in the New Day" but it was just some silly fun for Owens to be in the New Day's good graces
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 26, 2019 7:27:24 GMT -5
Not when the guys don't wanna do it. Hell, Kofi himself said this week it's only a matter of time until Big E is world champion. Sounds like that is their next big goal. I would actually think a more interesting story would be for the whole group to go heel and have Xaviar come forward as sort of a mastermind who has orchestrated all of their success, using their team coordination to finally put himself on top as champion. Eh. If there's one story I can't stand anymore, it's "I was the secret mastermind this whole time!" And it's not even that it's necessarily overdone, it just seems like people are always wanting it. |
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