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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jan 5, 2020 21:06:52 GMT -5
Whelp, I'm seeing like 50/50 people criticizing Gulak and criticizing some woman who isn't Gulak, so that's awesome.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 5, 2020 21:30:16 GMT -5
This guy literally works with children too apparently. Thank f***ing god that this came out sooner rather than later. Chikara scrubbed their site of any reference to him almost immediately too. Also was wondering who kickstarted a wave of people trying to blame women for not blasting this news without a care in the universe as soon as they heard it. Of f***ing course it was Erick Stephens, lol. In cruel irony this is also the woman that had an affair with Michael Elgin and was assaulted by one of his students a couple years ago. I will only say this about her. I think she has her heart in the right place and wants to help victims of sexual assault and rape having been assaulted multiple times (according to her), but she has also become a huge pariah on the indy scene for starting a lot of crap with wrestlers to the point I think a lot of people in the wrestling community want a reason to attack her. I do feel terrible for her for that. As for Rory? Dude deserves to be punished. Not only do I feel bad for Drew, but I also feel horrible for Nick Mondo, who was a guy that mentored Rory for a long time (Rory was Little Mondo back in the day)
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 5, 2020 21:42:42 GMT -5
I've hung out with Rory. Never got any vibes like this at all. F*** If it's any consolation, if he is indeed a predator, they get a lot of practice putting up a front with people. They groom their character witnesses and alibis as much as their victims, so no one can rightly blame you or anyone else for not noticing red flags if they're there.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jan 5, 2020 21:58:39 GMT -5
I always found it suspect that despite his desire to get booked more, unlike a lot of CHIKARA guys, he had terrible luck getting anywhere remotely reputable to book him (besides CHIKARA). Along with the fact that it always felt like Drew kept his distance, or at least at arm's length, with him. You never know how people are behind closed doors admittedly, but it was always a feeling I got from their relationship. Which just compounded the feeling I got from his career floundering as hard as it has. This may explain all of that.
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Post by honsou on Jan 5, 2020 22:45:59 GMT -5
This guy literally works with children too apparently. Thank f***ing god that this came out sooner rather than later. Chikara scrubbed their site of any reference to him almost immediately too. Also was wondering who kickstarted a wave of people trying to blame women for not blasting this news without a care in the universe as soon as they heard it. Of f***ing course it was Erick Stephens, lol. Erick Stevens is garbage and should’ve stayed retired. Its actually been worse than that. When attacking the people that had first got wind of it (apparently Rory was grooming people on twitter by sending them child porn and these were the people that eventually came out) he and a bunch of other of his followers started yelling at them for not coming forward sooner, with someone of them saying they should have called 911. When I said that they should be calling federal law enforcement or the Center for Missing and Exploited Children and still got shouted down. Also Stevens had refused to state who he was talking about and only pointed the finger at the people Rory was trying groom. I try my best to keep my twitter as positive as possible but I blew a gasket when seeing this.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 5, 2020 23:01:59 GMT -5
I always found it suspect that despite his desire to get booked more, unlike a lot of CHIKARA guys, he had terrible luck getting anywhere remotely reputable to book him (besides CHIKARA). Along with the fact that it always felt like Drew kept his distance, or at least at arm's length, with him. You never know how people are behind closed doors admittedly, but it was always a feeling I got from their relationship. Which just compounded the feeling I got from his career floundering as hard as it has. This may explain all of that. They were pretty close when they were younger, including starting to team up. But I do know that Drew was less than thrilled with a lot of decisions and company Rory kept (don't know specifics but just that they started to grow apart) I also know that there were companies that only dealt with Rory as a favor to Drew and once Drew went to WWE a couple companies cut Rory out real quick.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 5, 2020 23:06:52 GMT -5
For Drew's sake, I'm glad they're apparently estranged. Still can't imagine what it's like to have a brother that's apparently as vile as that. Jesus.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Jan 5, 2020 23:08:30 GMT -5
Y I K E S
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Post by nate5054 on Jan 6, 2020 2:04:21 GMT -5
That's a really serious charge. I wonder if there's any evidence with it.
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Post by honsou on Jan 6, 2020 2:11:27 GMT -5
That's a really serious charge. I wonder if there's any evidence with it. He was sending child porn to fans over twitter so the evidence is pretty good
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Post by nate5054 on Jan 6, 2020 2:20:34 GMT -5
That's a really serious charge. I wonder if there's any evidence with it. He was sending child porn to fans over twitter so the evidence is pretty good If he was, it seems like a pretty easy arrest/conviction.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jan 6, 2020 2:31:17 GMT -5
This guy literally works with children too apparently. Thank f***ing god that this came out sooner rather than later. Chikara scrubbed their site of any reference to him almost immediately too. Also was wondering who kickstarted a wave of people trying to blame women for not blasting this news without a care in the universe as soon as they heard it. Of f***ing course it was Erick Stephens, lol. Person: I have serious doubts about the wrestling industry and even community's genuine willingness to deal with the sex pests in their sphere and would you even believe me if I told you about what I have experienced? Stevens: Why would you not tell people, clearly you're the problem. Like I don't wanna get into some woekness dick measuring contest but it's weird seeing people laud someone as one of the 'most progressive' voices in anything when he's so completely failing to understand anything under the most surface level factors of a situation. "Sex crime bad and you should report it" is as far as he goes and then doesn't seem to grasp the vast depths of everything underneath it even when she says her issue right there in the f***ing tweet.
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Post by honsou on Jan 6, 2020 2:39:45 GMT -5
This guy literally works with children too apparently. Thank f***ing god that this came out sooner rather than later. Chikara scrubbed their site of any reference to him almost immediately too. Also was wondering who kickstarted a wave of people trying to blame women for not blasting this news without a care in the universe as soon as they heard it. Of f***ing course it was Erick Stephens, lol. Person: I have serious doubts about the wrestling industry and even community's genuine willingness to deal with the sex pests in their sphere and would you even believe me if I told you about what I have experienced? Stevens: Why would you not tell people, clearly you're the problem. Like I don't wanna get into some woekness dick measuring contest but it's weird seeing people laud someone as one of the 'most progressive' voices in anything when he's so completely failing to understand anything under the most surface level factors of a situation. "Sex crime bad and you should report it" is as far as he goes and then doesn't seem to grasp the vast depths of everything underneath it even when she says her issue right there in the f***ing tweet. It seems that he is "trying" but its one of those things where certain people can only develop to a certain extent and I think he is at his limit. It sadly means he can cause a lot more damage because people see him as great
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 3:46:11 GMT -5
f***ing WWE really dodged a bullet here by not hiring Rory after his tryout a year or two ago.
If this is all true, this dude needs to be in jail. Full stop.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 6, 2020 5:05:50 GMT -5
f***ing WWE really dodged a bullet here by not hiring Rory after his tryout a year or two ago. If this is all true, this dude needs to be in jail. Full stop. They're also lucky his previous appearances on WWE programming were really forgettable things, like Bludgeon Brothers squashes and the time Jack Gallagher beat up a clown at the tail end of a Summerslam weekend.
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Post by autisticgeordie on Jan 6, 2020 5:13:12 GMT -5
Rory is a total scumbag for this and Erick Stevens is a piece of shit for blaming the victim!
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 6, 2020 7:03:23 GMT -5
For Drew's sake, I'm glad they're apparently estranged. Still can't imagine what it's like to have a brother that's apparently as vile as that. Jesus. What a coincidence he'd be estranged from a brother who happens to be a scumbag.
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Post by thirteen3 on Jan 6, 2020 7:52:16 GMT -5
He's always been a scumbag. I remember that he caused some shit with backstage at a BJW show back in 2012 that almost nuked the then fragile relationship between CZW and Big Japan.
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Post by Steveweiser on Jan 6, 2020 10:21:10 GMT -5
CHIKARA have released a joint statement with the Wrestle Factory cutting all ties with Gulak.
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Post by eJm on Jan 6, 2020 10:22:37 GMT -5
Crazy. I was set to see him wrestle live in a few weeks in Glasgow for ICW Gonzo. Along with Steveweiser's post above, ICW have taken the decision to remove him from said show.
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