Gus Richlen Was Wrong
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Feb 2, 2020 0:58:49 GMT -5
The official Madden sim has San Francisco winning in a blowout and I believe that is exactly what will happen. Nick Bosa will help derail the Mahomes hype train en route to being the MVP.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Feb 2, 2020 9:42:19 GMT -5
Chiefs 32 Niners 24, and it really isn’t as close as it looks. Your negativity as a 49ers fan makes you sound like a Boston fan.
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Post by Spider2024 on Feb 2, 2020 9:51:08 GMT -5
Chiefs 32 Niners 24, and it really isn’t as close as it looks. Your negativity as a 49ers fan makes you sound like a Boston fan. Also Chicago, Philly, Atlanta, Seattle, Sacramento, and yes I'm even adding NYC to the list.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 2, 2020 10:06:24 GMT -5
The official Madden sim has San Francisco winning in a blowout and I believe that is exactly what will happen. Nick Bosa will help derail the Mahomes hype train en route to being the MVP. Anyone predicting this, since he became a starter, Mahomes has never lost by more than 1 score.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Feb 2, 2020 10:22:32 GMT -5
The official Madden sim has San Francisco winning in a blowout and I believe that is exactly what will happen. Nick Bosa will help derail the Mahomes hype train en route to being the MVP. As much as I love this idea, if Nick Bosa couldn’t catch Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson, or Lamar Jackson why would he catch Mahomes? The Niners D just isn’t equipped for a mobile QB.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 2, 2020 11:05:48 GMT -5
The official Madden sim has San Francisco winning in a blowout and I believe that is exactly what will happen. Nick Bosa will help derail the Mahomes hype train en route to being the MVP. As much as I love this idea, if Nick Bosa couldn’t catch Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson, or Lamar Jackson why would he catch Mahomes? The Niners D just isn’t equipped for a mobile QB. I'll add to this, I went back and watched a bunch of their stuff. In the second game with the Rams, McVey got Goff on the move with moving pockets and designed rollouts...they scored 31. The niners seems to struggle with any QB that is moved around even if it is by design. Also interesting thing to think about, while the 49ers line is getting much hype and deservedly so. The single best defensive lineman in this game, is Chris Jones. Dude is playing for a new huge contract today, so watch that.
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Post by BRV on Feb 2, 2020 12:40:51 GMT -5
If history is any indication, when an all-world offense meets a loaded defense in the Super Bowl, the defense comes out on top. We saw it in Super Bowl LIII, 50, XLVIII, XLII, XXXIX, XXXVII, and XXXVI as recent examples. Really, the last time a historic offense went into the Super Bowl and won it was when the Greatest Show on Turf won Super Bowl XXXIV 20 years ago.
Again, it's not indicative of what may happen tonight, but history has shown us that dominant offenses tend to go belly-up against star-studded defenses in the championship game.
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Post by RI Richmark on Feb 2, 2020 13:30:09 GMT -5
If history is any indication, when an all-world offense meets a loaded defense in the Super Bowl, the defense comes out on top. We saw it in Super Bowl LIII, 50, XLVIII, XLII, XXXIX, XXXVII, and XXXVI as recent examples. Really, the last time a historic offense went into the Super Bowl and won it was when the Greatest Show on Turf won Super Bowl XXXIV 20 years ago. Again, it's not indicative of what may happen tonight, but history has shown us that dominant offenses tend to go belly-up against star-studded defenses in the championship game. This is the main reason I'm picking San Francisco. Also Kanas City has gotten off to slow starts in their two playoff games. I don't think they can afford to go down by 10+ early against the 49ers.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 2, 2020 14:05:11 GMT -5
The 49ers don't have a star studded lock down defense. They had numerous games of giving up a ton of points and to be a little funny they gave up more points than the Chiefs did this year.
They have a high end DL but there are holes in their coverage, and the Chiefs absolutely kill zone.
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Post by Perd on Feb 2, 2020 14:20:38 GMT -5
I think the Chiefs won it. I think Pat Mahomes is the best player in the league. And I think it’s on full display tonight.
I also think it’s rude of them to hold this on my birthday.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 2, 2020 14:20:52 GMT -5
Niners Defense has struggled with mobile QB's all year, so it isn't as clear cut as just "Good offense vs. Good defense." If KC was your standard pocket passer offense, then yeah, I think the Niners would probably cream them. But I'd never count out Pat Mahomes.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Feb 2, 2020 14:24:41 GMT -5
The 49ers don't have a star studded lock down defense. They had numerous games of giving up a ton of points and to be a little funny they gave up more points than the Chiefs did this year. They have a high end DL but there are holes in their coverage, and the Chiefs absolutely kill zone. That’s just straight up silly talk. The Niners D was half injured with key guys out all over the place for much of the second half of the season. When they’re fully healthy (like right now) they’re pretty lock-down.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 2, 2020 14:57:53 GMT -5
The 49ers don't have a star studded lock down defense. They had numerous games of giving up a ton of points and to be a little funny they gave up more points than the Chiefs did this year. They have a high end DL but there are holes in their coverage, and the Chiefs absolutely kill zone. That’s just straight up silly talk. The Niners D was half injured with key guys out all over the place for much of the second half of the season. When they’re fully healthy (like right now) they’re pretty lock-down. I'm not saying they suck or they're bad, I keep seeing this narrative that acts like they're the 85 bears or the Ravens from back in the day, they aren't that.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Feb 2, 2020 15:03:50 GMT -5
That’s just straight up silly talk. The Niners D was half injured with key guys out all over the place for much of the second half of the season. When they’re fully healthy (like right now) they’re pretty lock-down. I'm not saying they suck or they're bad, I keep seeing this narrative that acts like they're the 85 bears or the Ravens from back in the day, they aren't that. The Niners fully healthy D is a force. Even I as a fan forgot how good they were as the injuries piled up during the season, but they’ve reminded me in these playoffs. That said, as good as they are, mobility is their kryptonite so it doesn’t even matter. Hahah
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Feb 2, 2020 16:09:21 GMT -5
I don't have any problems with the Pats trading Garoppolo. He wasn't going to stay and be a backup unless they franchised him and you don't pay a backup 20 million. And trading Brady at that time would have been madness. He was still performing at an MVP level at the time. The Patriots went to two Super Bowls after the trade winning one so keeping Brady was the right move. Now what we got for Garoppolo THAT'S what I have a problem with. It's clear that Belichick liked Garoppolo and wanted to send him to a place where he could succeed so he essentially gift wrapped him to San Francisco instead of finding the best offer. There were reports that the Browns were willing to send the 1st round pick they got from the Texans (which would have been 4th overall) for Jimmy. If the Patriots had that pick they could have drafted a Baker Mayfield or a Sam Darnold to be the heir apparent to Brady. Or they could have drafted another talented young player to supplement their aging core. But we'll never know. Exactly. The decision to trade Jimmy Garoppolo wasn't the mistake - there were rumors about him being traded for about a full year before he was dealt - what they got in exchange for Garoppolo was the mistake. Going into the 2017 NFL Draft, the rumors were that Houston and Cleveland were both bidding for Garoppolo's services, with both franchises debating the merit of sending one (or more) first-round picks in return for Jimmy G. To only end up with a solitary second-round pick was inexcusable, even if the Niners did gift-wrap Trent Brown back to the Patriots in spring 2018 as a sort of wink-wink way to make up for how they fleeced New England. Garoppolo was never going to accept a contract extension in New England unless it was as the starter. There was no amount of money he would accept to ride the bench for another three years, and the Patriots weren't going to give starting quarterback money to a player they had no intention of starting. And, all things considered, the Patriots didn't exactly screw up deciding to keep Tom Brady over Garoppolo. They advanced to two Super Bowls and won one in the three years since the trade. So far, Garoppolo's got one Super Bowl appearance as a starter, and if we learned anything from Dan Marino's career, it's that one Super Bowl early is not indicative of multiple Super Bowls in a career. The book won't be written on this trade until we find out how the Patriots plan for life after Brady and how Garoppolo's career ends up. Me and a friend worked out when I brought this up on here but all they actually got out of it was cap space. None of the drafts they got from trades that year ever started before they got dropped.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Feb 2, 2020 16:11:47 GMT -5
Urinating Tree just did a live sim on Madden... 95... and it went 20-17 to the Chiefs
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Post by Mecca on Feb 2, 2020 16:52:40 GMT -5
ESPN says the stadium is going to be 67% Chiefs fans, the highest of all time.
Sean McVay also saying he think the Chiefs will use the moving pocket that they did.
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Post by BRV on Feb 2, 2020 17:14:57 GMT -5
ESPN says the stadium is going to be 67% Chiefs fans, the highest of all time. Sean McVay also saying he think the Chiefs will use the moving pocket that they did. The last few Super Bowls have been decidedly partisan, with Patriots fans turning Mercedes-Benz Stadium into a home game for Super Bowl LIII and Eagles fans overtaking the Twin Cities for Super Bowl LII. It makes sense that Chiefs fans would outnumber 49ers fans, as Miami is closer to Kansas City than San Francisco, so it could be accessibly by plane or in a lengthy road trip, and the Chiefs have a 50-year Super Bowl drought, whereas the Niners were just in the big game seven years ago.
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Post by Sicho100 on Feb 2, 2020 17:28:30 GMT -5
I'm expecting the Chiefs to win by somewhere around 10 points. Mahomes is just too good, and would likely force the 49ers into a shootout. And this may be the one situation where it is preferable to force your opponent to pass rather than run, given that the Chiefs have a solid pass defense, but an awful rush defense, and the '9ers have a pretty uniquely efficient rushing attack, and a competent-but-not-spectacular QB. Forcing the 49ers to rely on Garoppolo seems more likely to force a mistake by San Francisco, and Mahomes will not let them get away with it.
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Gus Richlen Was Wrong
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Feb 2, 2020 17:33:08 GMT -5
ESPN says the stadium is going to be 67% Chiefs fans, the highest of all time. Sean McVay also saying he think the Chiefs will use the moving pocket that they did. The last few Super Bowls have been decidedly partisan, with Patriots fans turning Mercedes-Benz Stadium into a home game for Super Bowl LIII and Eagles fans overtaking the Twin Cities for Super Bowl LII. It makes sense that Chiefs fans would outnumber 49ers fans, as Miami is closer to Kansas City than San Francisco, so it could be accessibly by plane or in a lengthy road trip, and the Chiefs have a 50-year Super Bowl drought, whereas the Niners were just in the big game seven years ago. 48 was full of Bronco fans and the Broncos got WHUPPED. So I don't think the crowd is going to factor into this one bit.
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