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Post by cjh on Feb 15, 2020 17:21:01 GMT -5
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Post by cosmo on Feb 16, 2020 22:30:56 GMT -5
The episodes of Hardcore TV that were made up of stuff edited down from "Barbed Wire, Hoodies, and Chokeslams" was the first I ever saw of ECW, so I'm excited to get to see the full thing.
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Post by cjh on Feb 17, 2020 10:59:51 GMT -5
The video/audio quality of pretty much all of these are bad, and some of them definitely came from fan-sourced VHS dubs rather than ECW's master tapes.
EDIT: Okay, here's something confusing. Double Tables 1995 looks bad as if it definitely came from a VHS dub. However, WWE released the Sandman vs. Cactus Jack match from the show on a Mick Foley DVD in 2004, and the video was high quality. The full match was only released by ECW on the Double Tables video and did not air in full on ECW Hardcore TV. That makes it seem like WWE has a HQ version of Double Tables but didn't use it here for the Network.
EDIT 2: I have a DVD-R version of the ECW Home Video release of Double Tables that I got from RF/Highspots, and the WWE Network version has some footage that my copy doesn't. It has footage of Al Snow being removed on a stretcher after his match, and the footage at the end of Axl/Ian and Shane/Tully lasts a few more seconds.
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Post by chazraps on Feb 19, 2020 2:40:49 GMT -5
Was Sandman-Jack also on the ECW Best of Cactus Jack Pioneer DVD release? Is it possible the footage on the WWE 2004 DVD came from that same master?
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Post by James Fabiano on Feb 19, 2020 13:21:33 GMT -5
The video/audio quality of pretty much all of these are bad, and some of them definitely came from fan-sourced VHS dubs rather than ECW's master tapes. EDIT: Okay, here's something confusing. Double Tables 1995 looks bad as if it definitely came from a VHS dub. However, WWE released the Sandman vs. Cactus Jack match from the show on a Mick Foley DVD in 2004, and the video was high quality. The full match was only released by ECW on the Double Tables video and did not air in full on ECW Hardcore TV. That makes it seem like WWE has a HQ version of Double Tables but didn't use it here for the Network. EDIT 2: I have a DVD-R version of the ECW Home Video release of Double Tables that I got from RF/Highspots, and the WWE Network version has some footage that my copy doesn't. It has footage of Al Snow being removed on a stretcher after his match, and the footage at the end of Axl/Ian and Shane/Tully lasts a few more seconds. By any chance does the latter include a scene pre/post match where Shane and Tully shake hands? (This was in the commercial for DT, but never seen on the ECW Home Video version) |
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Post by cjh on Feb 19, 2020 13:26:08 GMT -5
The video/audio quality of pretty much all of these are bad, and some of them definitely came from fan-sourced VHS dubs rather than ECW's master tapes. EDIT: Okay, here's something confusing. Double Tables 1995 looks bad as if it definitely came from a VHS dub. However, WWE released the Sandman vs. Cactus Jack match from the show on a Mick Foley DVD in 2004, and the video was high quality. The full match was only released by ECW on the Double Tables video and did not air in full on ECW Hardcore TV. That makes it seem like WWE has a HQ version of Double Tables but didn't use it here for the Network. EDIT 2: I have a DVD-R version of the ECW Home Video release of Double Tables that I got from RF/Highspots, and the WWE Network version has some footage that my copy doesn't. It has footage of Al Snow being removed on a stretcher after his match, and the footage at the end of Axl/Ian and Shane/Tully lasts a few more seconds. By any chance does the latter include a scene pre/post match where Shane and Tully shake hands? (This was in the commercial for DT, but never seen on the ECW Home Video version) No, the extra footage was just 2-3 seconds more. On my physical copy, the last thing you see is a shot from the ringside camera. On the Network version, after that shot, they cut to the hard camera, then the segment is over. |
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Post by James Fabiano on Feb 19, 2020 13:27:33 GMT -5
By any chance does the latter include a scene pre/post match where Shane and Tully shake hands? (This was in the commercial for DT, but never seen on the ECW Home Video version) No, the extra footage was just 2-3 seconds more. On my physical copy, the last thing you see is a shot from the ringside camera. On the Network version, after that shot, they cut to the hard camera, then the segment is over. Hmmmmm...makes me wonder if they DID grab the handshake footage from That Other Match. |
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Post by cjh on Feb 19, 2020 13:34:11 GMT -5
No, the extra footage was just 2-3 seconds more. On my physical copy, the last thing you see is a shot from the ringside camera. On the Network version, after that shot, they cut to the hard camera, then the segment is over. Hmmmmm...makes me wonder if they DID grab the handshake footage from That Other Match. I doubt it. I saw the clip of the handshake, and it seems to be from DT. |
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Post by James Fabiano on Feb 19, 2020 13:56:19 GMT -5
Hmmmmm...makes me wonder if they DID grab the handshake footage from That Other Match. I doubt it. I saw the clip of the handshake, and it seems to be from DT. Weird, as the DT I remember had Tully run in and start a fight instantly, so you'd think there was no time for any pre-match antics. |
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Post by cjh on Feb 19, 2020 15:00:54 GMT -5
I doubt it. I saw the clip of the handshake, and it seems to be from DT. Weird, as the DT I remember had Tully run in and start a fight instantly, so you'd think there was no time for any pre-match antics. Shane gets the pin, Bob Artese announces him the winner, then the show immediately jumps to Sandman's entrance. ECW likely removed the handshake by cutting away that fast. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 15:29:36 GMT -5
OMG, I want to get a Network subscription for a few months so I can binge watch ECW now. The only things missing I think are Wrestlepalooza 97 which I have on DVD, and Born To Be Wired (but I have the Sabu vs Funk barbed wire match. This makes me want to do an ECW binge watch but I don't know if I have time to commit right now. Maybe in the summer when most of the tv shows I watch are in reruns.
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Post by James Fabiano on Feb 19, 2020 15:32:37 GMT -5
Weird, as the DT I remember had Tully run in and start a fight instantly, so you'd think there was no time for any pre-match antics. Shane gets the pin, Bob Artese announces him the winner, then the show immediately jumps to Sandman's entrance. ECW likely removed the handshake by cutting away that fast. Just rewatched the commercial, Sign Guy has a sign referencing the Triple Threat (which was coined after the first match), so guess you're right. |
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Post by cosmo on Feb 20, 2020 15:02:38 GMT -5
The video/audio quality of pretty much all of these are bad, and some of them definitely came from fan-sourced VHS dubs rather than ECW's master tapes. Oh, totally. I just started watching Heat Wave '95 and thanks to the DVD player icon popping up in the bottom left corner of the screen, I can tell you that it was taken from a VHS copy that was burned onto a blank Blu-ray disc. |
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Post by horsemen4ever on Feb 25, 2020 19:46:29 GMT -5
So are we never going to get November to Remember 1993?
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Post by chazraps on Jul 18, 2020 1:25:56 GMT -5
heck yeah
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jul 19, 2020 20:34:19 GMT -5
More Terry Gordy matches? Cool. Dude was with the company for like six months yet if you search for any of his ECW stuff all you can ever find is the Raven match and the tag match with him and Dr. Death vs. The Eliminators. Nice to get more stuff out there.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Aug 13, 2020 1:35:28 GMT -5
OMG, I want to get a Network subscription for a few months so I can binge watch ECW now. The only things missing I think are Wrestlepalooza 97 which I have on DVD, and Born To Be Wired (but I have the Sabu vs Funk barbed wire match. This makes me want to do an ECW binge watch but I don't know if I have time to commit right now. Maybe in the summer when most of the tv shows I watch are in reruns. If you enjoy the ECW Fancams from back then Highspots Network has almost all of those. |
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Aug 21, 2020 9:20:31 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me how far back their ecw library goes back? I was watching some 1993 eastern championship wrestling when eddie Gilbert was still there on YouTube but the channel's ecw stuff got deleted.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Aug 21, 2020 11:23:02 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me how far back their ecw library goes back? I was watching some 1993 eastern championship wrestling when eddie Gilbert was still there on YouTube but the channel's ecw stuff got deleted. The earliest episode of ECW weekly television on the Network is 4/6/93, which, according to Wikipedia, is the first ever episode. If you want earlier, they also have two volumes of "The Best of ECW 1992" in the Hidden Gems section, so you can see some true ECW legends like Jim Neidhart, Ivan Koloff and The Canadian Wolfman. |
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Post by ltcproductions on Aug 21, 2020 12:00:55 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me how far back their ecw library goes back? I was watching some 1993 eastern championship wrestling when eddie Gilbert was still there on YouTube but the channel's ecw stuff got deleted. The earliest episode of ECW weekly television on the Network is 4/6/93, which, according to Wikipedia, is the first ever episode. If you want earlier, they also have two volumes of "The Best of ECW 1992" in the Hidden Gems section, so you can see some true ECW legends like Jim Neidhart, Ivan Koloff and The Canadian Wolfman. I legitimately did not know there was footage of 1992 shows. |
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