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Post by floundertime on Jun 11, 2021 10:15:44 GMT -5
Has Todd seen her yet?
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Post by fw91 on Jun 11, 2021 11:17:29 GMT -5
Hopefully she’ll stay out for more than a cup of coffee this time around.
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Post by XIII on Jun 11, 2021 11:42:07 GMT -5
Every time that they lock her up and release without actually addressing the root cause of her addiction she’s one day closer to driving drunk and killing an innocent motorist/pedestrian, herself, or both. I want her to get clean for public safety, I don’t have high hopes though.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 11, 2021 11:46:36 GMT -5
But for how long?
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Post by jason1980s on Jun 11, 2021 12:01:16 GMT -5
Every time that they lock her up and release without actually addressing the root cause of her addiction she’s one day closer to driving drunk and killing an innocent motorist/pedestrian, herself, or both. I want her to get clean for public safety, I don’t have high hopes though. Very true and sad. She is a small note in a much larger issue about criminal justice. I am a huge liberal and all about giving people chances but I am also a realist and know that her life will continue the way it has gone and eventually she will either die from her issues or someone will die as a result. I always think of her early days with WWF. She got way too much way too soon and lost it all even quicker coupled with a drug addiction. And just when it seemed like things were getting back to normal Chris died unexpectedly and way too young. We as wrestling fans could probably address her issues even better than a college degree doctor and if she was just housed in a jail for her crimes and the key issues were not addressed it will just get worse. As for Todd, I've been friends with Todd for 20 years. Like Marge says of Homer, Todd is a "sweet, kind, loving man" and a guy like Todd would be the guy to help a woman like Tammy through her issues I know. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2021 12:08:22 GMT -5
Every time that they lock her up and release without actually addressing the root cause of her addiction she’s one day closer to driving drunk and killing an innocent motorist/pedestrian, herself, or both. I want her to get clean for public safety, I don’t have high hopes though. We as wrestling fans could probably address her issues even better than a college degree doctor No, we couldn't. |
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Post by jason1980s on Jun 11, 2021 12:39:19 GMT -5
We as wrestling fans could probably address her issues even better than a college degree doctor No, we couldn't. The fact that she keeps doing the same thing over and over again leads me to believe that yes, we can do just as good or better of a job as the mental health medical professionals. Obviously she is not getting the mental health help from the professionals that she needs and society needs so that she will not re-offend. Anyone who watched her wrestling career knows two of the root causes of her issues right off the bat. So if the professionals can't fix the situation, you might as well call in a wrestling fan. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2021 12:44:30 GMT -5
The fact that she keeps doing the same thing over and over again leads me to believe that yes, we can do just as good or better of a job as the mental health medical professionals. Obviously she is not getting the mental health help from the professionals that she needs and society needs so that she will not re-offend. Anyone who watched her wrestling career knows two of the root causes of her issues right off the bat. So if the professionals can't fix the situation, you might as well call in a wrestling fan. No. That is incredibly dangerous. Do I think that good intentioned fans could help her out by not making fun of her, offering her a safe place to vent online, help supporting her to get non-wrestling or porn related work, etc. Yes. But, the rest is patent nonsense. No, we don't know what her issues are because we watched her wrestling. That's lunacy. |
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Post by The Captain on Jun 11, 2021 12:52:28 GMT -5
The fact that she keeps doing the same thing over and over again leads me to believe that yes, we can do just as good or better of a job as the mental health medical professionals. Obviously she is not getting the mental health help from the professionals that she needs and society needs so that she will not re-offend. Anyone who watched her wrestling career knows two of the root causes of her issues right off the bat. So if the professionals can't fix the situation, you might as well call in a wrestling fan. You're assuming an awful lot about any sort of help she's already received. And what actually makes a wrestling fan qualified to handle the very complex and difficult issues of both mental health struggles and drug addiction?
The more I think about it, the more this kind of post proves that trusting a f***ing wrestling fan over someone who actually knows how to deal with these sorts of things is a really stupid, horrible idea.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Jun 11, 2021 13:28:08 GMT -5
The fact that she keeps doing the same thing over and over again leads me to believe that yes, we can do just as good or better of a job as the mental health medical professionals. Obviously she is not getting the mental health help from the professionals that she needs and society needs so that she will not re-offend. Anyone who watched her wrestling career knows two of the root causes of her issues right off the bat. So if the professionals can't fix the situation, you might as well call in a wrestling fan. nope, only people who have spent years understanding and learning how to treat & help with those sorts of issues are the ones who should be helping her, not random wrestling fans with good intentions. seriously your line of thinking on this is so wrong in many ways. |
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Post by jason1980s on Jun 11, 2021 14:05:46 GMT -5
What good have the professionals done for her in the last say 25 years from rehab to rehab and jail? Looks like not a lot to me so it seems like literally anyone can do just as good a job to help her. But I'll see myself out of this thread for the time being because it seems like that's the best thing to do but it's not because I don't believe what I am saying is true but with two mods getting into the thread I don't want to get this thread to be closed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2021 14:19:29 GMT -5
What good have the professionals done for her in the last say 25 years from rehab to rehab and jail? Looks like not a lot to me so it seems like literally anyone can do just as good a job to help her. But I'll see myself out of this thread for the time being because it seems like that's the best thing to do but it's not because I don't believe what I am saying is true but with two mods getting into the thread I don't want to get this thread to be closed. Not going to close this thread. Here's the thing: do you know what Tammy's therapy sessions are like? Do you know what medication, if any, she's been subscribed, how diligent she was in taking them, the effects of their use on her behavior? Can you chart her behavior, her self-esteem, her interactions with her doctors, any progress she has made? Could you or any fans, who haven't studied counseling or psychology or drug and alcohol addiction, accurately diagnose someone you haven't interacted with in a controlled setting? Do you know if there are any physical conditions that she has due to being a manager for years and, yes, taking bumps at times? Do you know of any possible problems before entering pro wrestling? How's her relationship with her family? I assume you meant Chris dying is one of the big issues that obviously impact her behavior but do you know what her thoughts on that are? Maybe she's had problems with other relationships after Chris and that's negatively effected her too? We don't know. We can't know. Because we're just fans. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 11, 2021 17:03:02 GMT -5
Todd divorced her years ago. |
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jun 11, 2021 17:24:29 GMT -5
Every time that they lock her up and release without actually addressing the root cause of her addiction she’s one day closer to driving drunk and killing an innocent motorist/pedestrian, herself, or both. I want her to get clean for public safety, I don’t have high hopes though. What are they really going to do at this point? Short of death she’s suffered about every negative consequence one could as a result of alcoholism. She’s had ample opportunities for treatment, and she’s still young enough there could be substantial opportunities for her if she cleaned up. She just isn’t interested. Change has to come from her, and all signs are she doesn’t give a shit. |
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Post by The Warthog on Jun 11, 2021 17:32:42 GMT -5
The fact that she keeps doing the same thing over and over again leads me to believe that yes, we can do just as good or better of a job as the mental health medical professionals. Obviously she is not getting the mental health help from the professionals that she needs and society needs so that she will not re-offend. Anyone who watched her wrestling career knows two of the root causes of her issues right off the bat. So if the professionals can't fix the situation, you might as well call in a wrestling fan. There's a reason why you have to go to school for this stuff. You can't just diagnose people willy nilly online unless you truly understand the root cause(s) of their addiction(s). |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jun 11, 2021 18:11:37 GMT -5
The fact that she keeps doing the same thing over and over again leads me to believe that yes, we can do just as good or better of a job as the mental health medical professionals. Obviously she is not getting the mental health help from the professionals that she needs and society needs so that she will not re-offend. Anyone who watched her wrestling career knows two of the root causes of her issues right off the bat. So if the professionals can't fix the situation, you might as well call in a wrestling fan. There's a reason why you have to go to school for this stuff. You can't just diagnose people willy nilly online unless you truly understand the root cause(s) of their addiction(s). Well, you CAN diagnose people willy nilly online. Drew Pinsky and Dr. Phil do it all the time. Whether it does anyone any good and isn’t seriously disturbing predatory behaviour is another matter. |
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Post by The Captain on Jun 11, 2021 19:00:07 GMT -5
I wonder if Dr. Phil is a wrestling fan. Because he isn't an actual medical doctor nor does he have any sort of doctorate degree so he might just be qualified to treat Sunny if he meets that criteria!
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jun 11, 2021 20:46:39 GMT -5
I wonder if Dr. Phil is a wrestling fan. Because he isn't an actual medical doctor nor does he have any sort of doctorate degree so he might just be qualified to treat Sunny if he meets that criteria! At the absolute least his whole schtick is based upon old carny freakshow-ism. I live down the road from his alma matter and my best friend went to the same grad school for the same subject. They don't speak highly of him. |
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Jun 12, 2021 10:11:11 GMT -5
Her case is an indictment of the US criminal justice and medical systems more than anything.
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Post by Kyle Butler on Jun 12, 2021 11:58:45 GMT -5
I wonder if Dr. Phil is a wrestling fan. Because he isn't an actual medical doctor nor does he have any sort of doctorate degree so he might just be qualified to treat Sunny if he meets that criteria! Dr. Phil has a doctorate in clinical psychology from the University of North Texas |
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