FHgrad99
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Post by FHgrad99 on May 13, 2022 23:13:24 GMT -5
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lionheart21
Patti Mayonnaise
Once did a thing...
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Post by lionheart21 on May 13, 2022 23:26:07 GMT -5
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Post by jimmyjames on May 13, 2022 23:45:46 GMT -5
So Tammy wasn't just drinking and driving she decided to smoke some marijuana to top this off. This keeps getting worst and worst and the trial hasn't even started.
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Post by jason1980s on May 14, 2022 11:42:19 GMT -5
PWInsider says that according to court records she did have a public defender, but hired her own attorney. Which leads me to the question that I’m sure everyone will ask: how the hell can she afford an attorney? I’ll assume her boyfriend is footing the bill, although he’ll soon need one himself for the civil lawsuit initiated by the Lasseter estate. I just wonder if there's ever been a person, or will ever be that is so evil that no paid or public lawyer would defend them. They all would refuse. I will say it's pretty awful her posting the only fans stuff just a few days ago. I worked in a job where one person was a murderer and three people became murderers and though the first one wound up becoming a deacon, the last three to me had no conscience. They also had one thing in common-an adult life of 40-50 years filled with drug and alcohol abuse. They would wield around weapons to hit someone in the head, like it was nothing. Tammy may not have set out to kill that man but she's no different than the folks I knew. I can only hope time away can help her become some better, like the prisoners who teach literacy, but I highly doubt it. And I'm guessing they'll have no issues finding a fair jury. No one will be influenced by her "fame" since she was only known for such a short period of time. I also hope Bill Demott has changed. I feel for him losing his daughter at all but especially that way. And if this is his life's mission, I hope he can help others.
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Post by The Captain on May 14, 2022 12:41:18 GMT -5
Sytch is like z-list in terms of fame these days. I doubt anyone outside of big pro wrestling fans will know her by name.
She also has a constitutional right to counsel and public defenders have defended far more repugnant people. I don't think this would've been the test case even if she didn't already have a lawyer.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on May 14, 2022 13:21:45 GMT -5
People in this thread are acting like a public defender has the option to just say "nope" to defending someone.
It doesn't work like that. They don't get to choose their clients.
They can request the judge release them from the case if they feel there's a genuine reason they cannot represent their client to the best of their ability, but that's going to be a rare occurrence. Generally their professional ethics are going to require them to see the case through to the end.
No matter how much of a shitbag their assigned client is, in this country those clients are still entitled to a rigorous defense.
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ayumidah
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Post by ayumidah on May 14, 2022 13:34:33 GMT -5
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Milkman Norm
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Post by Milkman Norm on May 14, 2022 19:49:28 GMT -5
People in this thread are acting like a public defender has the option to just say "nope" to defending someone. It doesn't work like that. They don't get to choose their clients. They can request the judge release them from the case if they feel there's a genuine reason they cannot represent their client to the best of their ability, but that's going to be a rare occurrence. Generally their professional ethics are going to require them to see the case through to the end. No matter how much of a shitbag their assigned client is, in this country those clients are still entitled to a rigorous defense. A vigorous defense means that they are legally and ethically required to do all they within the law to get a not guilty or get charges dismissed.
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XIII
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Post by XIII on May 14, 2022 20:09:09 GMT -5
After reading the motion for pre-trial detention if she doesn’t serve a long time for this then I won’t know what to say.
.28 but maybe as high as .36, an open bottle of vodka in the floorboard. Found unresponsive in front of what I can only assume is a bar months after this.
Sounds like she’s going to be held until trial, which is probably the safest place for her because if she’s out on bond I truly expect the final chapter of this fiasco one way or another.
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Post by Ringmaster on May 15, 2022 10:55:40 GMT -5
She very likely could believe like in the multiple other cases she's had she will simply get off having to pay a bond. I don't think the gravity of her killing another person has set in and, frankly, I don't think it ever will.
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Nosnorb
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Post by Nosnorb on May 15, 2022 11:02:37 GMT -5
Normally I would never use this word, but god what a c*** she is... I'm teh same way. I reserve that word for the truely deserving. This c*** deserves it. Don't call her that. A c*** has warmth, depth and sensitivity.
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Post by Clutchhausen on May 16, 2022 3:12:01 GMT -5
Just saw the body cam footage. Man, she looks rough. No sympy tho.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on May 16, 2022 7:36:14 GMT -5
Go to jail, stay in jail, please.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 16, 2022 8:59:04 GMT -5
As bad as she's been before, this latest incident really shows what a disgusting human she is. I'm sorry but that's what she is. Some people would have a "Come to Jesus" moment and get help. Not Tammy. Almost everyone would not say anything and lay low. Mot Tammy. Instead she's out here on social media attacking people who criticize her, coming up with bulls&%$ excuses for what happened and never, never showing one ounce of remorse or sorrow for the lives she's taken and effected. Just disgusting. If I can use my favorite TV show...I wish there was a Hetty Woodstone who could just say "You can go to hell!" and have Tammy go down on us as a result. She is worse than her husband Elias, I dare to say. Wouldn't be the first time she went down, I'm sure. (yes, she deserves slut shaming too, in my book)
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 16, 2022 9:01:13 GMT -5
As I said before, based on the times I met him, at least Bill HAS mellowed out. He's always been super cool to me. Yes it took being held accountable, and losing his daughter, unfortunately. But hey, learning from negative experiences...something Tammy HASN'T done.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 16, 2022 9:12:48 GMT -5
I thought they removed Snuka from the Hall of Fame a couple years back They never officially removed him but they did take him off the website and considering there's no actual hall, it's the closest thing they have As I said before, probably dozens of times in this thread alone... 1) Yeah I think Snuka is not mentioned on the HOF website. They did pay tribute to him when he passed away, so it's not like they totally UnPersoned him. Hogan got this too after his scandal, albeit temporarily. 2) Yeah it's just a name on a website. But I think it's just the idea of her getting the Benoit treatment. Which she deserves. 3) Yes, if you get rid of Sunny, where do you stop? There's the Snuka example, which we think they acted on (no doubt as it was a fairly big MSM story, like Benoit but on a lesser scale of course). Then you got Carlos Colon, and his role in Brody's death. I can see people being all What About with accidental killings too (Scott Hall, Great Khali...watch some people complain if and when Rey Mysterio gets in.) There's also that certain celebrity who some blame for like 500K+ deaths and some extra at a certain other FAN-unfriendly incident 1.5 years ago. Then you got all the non-death scandals. Spousal abuse (Austin, Savage). Convicted rapist (Tyson). People who said inflammatory/inappropriate things (Hogan, Warrior). Horrible fathers (Fritz). The whole Moolah thing (though I somehow still hold an "allegedly" near that). All of Flair's antics. There's Chyna and "what if they Google her?" She was much like Sunny except I don't think she harmed another person. There's also the things only wrestling fans will care about, like Dusty being a horrible booker and someone who was there to just put himself over. I think Superstar Billy Graham was removed too, at his insistence over the Abdullah thing. Yet he hasn't been behaved (his rants about how so and so should use steroids) At this rate, Bobby Eaton will be the only HOF-worthy person out there!
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Post by ChitownKnight on May 16, 2022 10:47:57 GMT -5
They never officially removed him but they did take him off the website and considering there's no actual hall, it's the closest thing they have As I said before, probably dozens of times in this thread alone... 1) Yeah I think Snuka is not mentioned on the HOF website. They did pay tribute to him when he passed away, so it's not like they totally UnPersoned him. Hogan got this too after his scandal, albeit temporarily. 2) Yeah it's just a name on a website. But I think it's just the idea of her getting the Benoit treatment. Which she deserves. 3) Yes, if you get rid of Sunny, where do you stop? There's the Snuka example, which we think they acted on (no doubt as it was a fairly big MSM story, like Benoit but on a lesser scale of course). Then you got Carlos Colon, and his role in Brody's death. I can see people being all What About with accidental killings too (Scott Hall, Great Khali...watch some people complain if and when Rey Mysterio gets in.) There's also that certain celebrity who some blame for like 500K+ deaths and some extra at a certain other FAN-unfriendly incident 1.5 years ago. Then you got all the non-death scandals. Spousal abuse (Austin, Savage). Convicted rapist (Tyson). People who said inflammatory/inappropriate things (Hogan, Warrior). Horrible fathers (Fritz). The whole Moolah thing (though I somehow still hold an "allegedly" near that). All of Flair's antics. There's Chyna and "what if they Google her?" She was much like Sunny except I don't think she harmed another person. There's also the things only wrestling fans will care about, like Dusty being a horrible booker and someone who was there to just put himself over. I think Superstar Billy Graham was removed too, at his insistence over the Abdullah thing. Yet he hasn't been behaved (his rants about how so and so should use steroids) At this rate, Bobby Eaton will be the only HOF-worthy person out there! Benoit, Snuka and maybe Colon (since it hasn’t really been proven) shouldn’t be in. Any accidental death was just that an accident. The fact that Sunny has shown 0 remorse and 0 redeeming qualities is what makes her deserving of being booted
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Post by sungod2020 on May 16, 2022 12:30:28 GMT -5
They never officially removed him but they did take him off the website and considering there's no actual hall, it's the closest thing they have As I said before, probably dozens of times in this thread alone... 1) Yeah I think Snuka is not mentioned on the HOF website. They did pay tribute to him when he passed away, so it's not like they totally UnPersoned him. Hogan got this too after his scandal, albeit temporarily. 2) Yeah it's just a name on a website. But I think it's just the idea of her getting the Benoit treatment. Which she deserves. 3) Yes, if you get rid of Sunny, where do you stop? There's the Snuka example, which we think they acted on (no doubt as it was a fairly big MSM story, like Benoit but on a lesser scale of course). Then you got Carlos Colon, and his role in Brody's death. I can see people being all What About with accidental killings too (Scott Hall, Great Khali...watch some people complain if and when Rey Mysterio gets in.) There's also that certain celebrity who some blame for like 500K+ deaths and some extra at a certain other FAN-unfriendly incident 1.5 years ago. Then you got all the non-death scandals. Spousal abuse (Austin, Savage). Convicted rapist (Tyson). People who said inflammatory/inappropriate things (Hogan, Warrior). Horrible fathers (Fritz). The whole Moolah thing (though I somehow still hold an "allegedly" near that). All of Flair's antics. There's Chyna and "what if they Google her?" She was much like Sunny except I don't think she harmed another person. There's also the things only wrestling fans will care about, like Dusty being a horrible booker and someone who was there to just put himself over. I think Superstar Billy Graham was removed too, at his insistence over the Abdullah thing. Yet he hasn't been behaved (his rants about how so and so should use steroids) At this rate, Bobby Eaton will be the only HOF-worthy person out there! To add to that, Mr. Fuji was a malicious prankster and The Steiners were backstage terrors, even at one point sodomizing some poor sap with a pencil. Which brings me to the question, "where do you draw the line between separating the character and the person playing it" to where you can no longer enjoy/honor their on-screen work? As far as whether or not to keep Sunny in the HOF goes, even without her legal troubles, does she really have a Hall of Fame worthy career? The only accolade she has is being the first modern diva. She never got anybody she managed over, she never had any memorable storylines(except maybe using Phineas Godwinn which ended up with her being slopped), she couldn't act her way out of a paper bag. She only got over because she was hot and guys wanted to look at her. If she was booted from the Hallowed Halls, would there really be such an outcry? I can understand if it was one of the bigger names, but if you removed Sunny from WWF/E history, would anyone really notice? How crucial is she to the WWE canon?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on May 16, 2022 12:36:58 GMT -5
DeMott has had his issues, but at the end of the day he'sa man who lost his daughter to horrific circumstances.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 16, 2022 13:58:18 GMT -5
She very likely could believe like in the multiple other cases she's had she will simply get off having to pay a bond. I don't think the gravity of her killing another person has set in and, frankly, I don't think it ever will. Since she's still blaming it on a phantom heart attack she probably still believes she's innocent.
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