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Post by Chainsaw on Aug 17, 2022 3:20:41 GMT -5
You'll forgive me if I do not believe them, or the publicist for either Miller or Discovery who got them to say this.
This feels like Discovery making them behave just long enough to get people to forget about their actions and get the movie out the door. I expect that, after The Flash gets released, they'll wash their hands of Miller and let them go back to whatever spiral they're in, comforted in the knowledge that they did everything they could to make sure they can turn a profit.
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Post by Renslayer on Aug 26, 2022 15:46:28 GMT -5
Local menace tries to pull another con
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Post by Clutchhausen on Aug 26, 2022 16:03:47 GMT -5
WB REALLY wants this movie to come out, don't they?
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Post by J Lee O'Brien on Aug 26, 2022 18:09:56 GMT -5
WB REALLY wants this movie to come out, don't they? Want isn't a strong enough word. They basically *need* it to come out, and probably pull in over $1.5B, if there's to be hope for *anything else* DC to come out.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Aug 26, 2022 19:12:18 GMT -5
In about a decade there will be a very engrossing documentary movie.. nah, scratch that .. a 10 part Netflix documentary series
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Post by chrom on Aug 26, 2022 19:17:38 GMT -5
WB REALLY wants this movie to come out, don't they? Want isn't a strong enough word. They basically *need* it to come out, and probably pull in over $1.5B, if there's to be hope for *anything else* DC to come out. Be lucky to get half a billion most likely
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 26, 2022 19:20:26 GMT -5
I feel like 1.5 billion is probably not necessary, but yeah, WB wants/needs cash right now, and this would probably bring it in. They're also probably going to really be hoping for word of mouth to help them given how they're probably going to want to not break the bank on advertising.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Aug 26, 2022 22:10:46 GMT -5
I dont know how anybody can want to see the movie. I wouldnt watch it on principle. Theyre not getting a single penny from me
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Aug 27, 2022 0:42:58 GMT -5
Erza Miller in a nutshell.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 27, 2022 1:08:55 GMT -5
WB REALLY wants this movie to come out, don't they? Want isn't a strong enough word. They basically *need* it to come out, and probably pull in over $1.5B, if there's to be hope for *anything else* DC to come out. Yeah, they're basically in the situation of they can't afford to not release it, and they can't afford for it to bomb. I figure they're probably hoping it does at least $800 million to make some profit, but will be desperately hoping that it goes beyond that.
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Post by Chainsaw on Aug 27, 2022 23:06:16 GMT -5
It's going to take some insane "The Producers" style shenanigans for this to end up making them money off of everything that's happened. Which, considering they're letting an incredibly disturbed person skate just so they can release it, and they're the type of company now who would try to pull a scheme like Bialystock and Bloom did, I wouldn't put it past WB Discovery.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Aug 28, 2022 17:32:16 GMT -5
Want isn't a strong enough word. They basically *need* it to come out, and probably pull in over $1.5B, if there's to be hope for *anything else* DC to come out. Be lucky to get half a billion most likely This is honestly the worst modern cinema era to try and aim for $1 billion+. 3 years ago, in 2019, there was 9 $1 billion+ films. In the pandemic era there have been exactly 2 films to break that mark(No Way Home and Top Gun: Maverick). There’s a third film threatening that mark this year(Jurassic World: Dominion at $990 million, but it is at the tail end of its theatrical run now), and a fourth film that encroached it(Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness at $955 million but it’s run has rather firmly ended). Chasing $800 million will honestly be difficult in even a best case scenario, and this is far from best case. $500-$700 million is probably the optimistic haul right now. It may be able to drag its feet to the $800 million zone if the summer slate next year is as weak as this year’s was and the big tent poles get months on end in theatres, but even something like Thor hasn’t crossed $750 million yet, and its run is trailing off too.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Aug 28, 2022 17:55:23 GMT -5
Be lucky to get half a billion most likely This is honestly the worst modern cinema era to try and aim for $1 billion+. 3 years ago, in 2019, there was 9 $1 billion+ films. In the pandemic era there have been exactly 2 films to break that mark(No Way Home and Top Gun: Maverick). There’s a third film threatening that mark this year(Jurassic World: Dominion at $990 million, but it is at the tail end of its theatrical run now), and a fourth film that encroached it(Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness at $955 million but it’s run has rather firmly ended). Chasing $800 million will honestly be difficult in even a best case scenario, and this is far from best case. $500-$700 million is probably the optimistic haul right now. It may be able to drag its feet to the $800 million zone if the summer slate next year is as weak as this year’s was and the big tent poles get months on end in theatres, but even something like Thor hasn’t crossed $750 million yet, and its run is trailing off too. And this is a DC film; it doesn't have a legacy of consistency and quality working for it the way the Marvel films do.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Aug 28, 2022 20:43:39 GMT -5
I dont know how anybody can want to see the movie. I wouldnt watch it on principle. Theyre not getting a single penny from me I find myself torn between wanting Sasha Calle and Michael Keaton to get a win and wanting David Zaslav and Ezra Miller to take a loss here. Part of me really wants this movie to not just underperform but actually lose money, at least as much money as they gained from the Batgirl write-off. Of course, I realize this means a lot of people probably losing their jobs, but that's probably gonna happen regardless under Mr. Zas, so...
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 28, 2022 21:10:41 GMT -5
It's going to take some insane "The Producers" style shenanigans for this to end up making them money off of everything that's happened. Which, considering they're letting an incredibly disturbed person skate just so they can release it, and they're the type of company now who would try to pull a scheme like Bialystock and Bloom did, I wouldn't put it past WB Discovery. There's honestly not really anything they could do about Ezra. They waited too long to make a decision, probably due to the merger, and it just made a bad situation even worse.
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 28, 2022 21:28:05 GMT -5
It's interesting that all of these reports about Ezra apologizing, entering therapy, and making the right moves to make amends suddenly started after the rumors that WB/Discovery was finally considering what to do about the movie. Maybe if WB had threatened to pull the movie months ago instead of burying their heads in the sand Ezra wouldn't have done half the shit they've done. Only time will tell if Ezra is genuinely repentant and working on themselves or whether it's just lip service, of course, but Ezra was left unchecked for way too long.
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Post by Ryushinku on Aug 29, 2022 2:41:17 GMT -5
If we're talking box office, I could definitely see this one opening big for the car crash fascination. Then it'll drop like a stone. Billion ain't happening.
But, away from the numbers, they've put so many eggs in this basket that it's sad yet predictable they're fighting to sweep everything under the rug. Whatever gets Ezra propped up and able to run media interviews is probably as far as they're looking ahead.
Really screwed up all round.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Aug 29, 2022 10:36:09 GMT -5
It's interesting that all of these reports about Ezra apologizing, entering therapy, and making the right moves to make amends suddenly started after the rumors that WB/Discovery was finally considering what to do about the movie. Maybe if WB had threatened to pull the movie months ago instead of burying their heads in the sand Ezra wouldn't have done half the shit they've done. Only time will tell if Ezra is genuinely repentant and working on themselves or whether it's just lip service, of course, but Ezra was left unchecked for way too long. And not even very good lip service. Ezra's "apology" basically boils down to "I can tolerate being the yassification of David Koresh, but I draw the line at not being able to play Flash anymore". I'm actually shocked Warner let that bit get out.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Aug 29, 2022 16:57:38 GMT -5
It's going to take some insane "The Producers" style shenanigans for this to end up making them money off of everything that's happened. Which, considering they're letting an incredibly disturbed person skate just so they can release it, and they're the type of company now who would try to pull a scheme like Bialystock and Bloom did, I wouldn't put it past WB Discovery. (singing) Springtime for Miller and Discovery... (Sorry couldn't resist.)
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Post by thechase on Sept 18, 2022 10:14:48 GMT -5
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