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Post by Dr. T is an alien on May 16, 2020 23:54:48 GMT -5
It’s embarrassing to see how people are reacting to possible safety guidelines at Disney when they reopen parks. People threatening to cancel vacations if they have to wear a mask in the ungodly Florida heat...it’s unacceptable! Which it’s hilarious because they’re saying people will pass out from heat exhaustion...but yet people in full costume parade their happy butts out for families day in and day out. They’ve obviously never had to play the Easter Bunny. I have...those things are brutal and masks are a cakewalk. I mean, Orlando’s average temperature for the next couple months is only 3 degrees higher than here...and as far as I know no one has passed out from mask heat exhaustion. I have a Disney vacation planned for September 1st and am likely to cancel it, not because of restrictions but more or less i dont anticipate a full reopening. We go every couple years for the food and wine festival which ill assume is canceled. I'll also assume they'll have everything reduced. Not interested in spending $8k for half the experience. I have very mixed feelings about that. Precaution is of the utmost importance, but until that time thousands of employees like my brother-in-law are furloughed. You’d think they’d keep the pyrotechnics guys on the payroll so as to prevent losing their services in the long term, but apparently that isn’t a valid use of their billions.
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Post by Rolent Tex on May 17, 2020 1:39:25 GMT -5
It’s embarrassing to see how people are reacting to possible safety guidelines at Disney when they reopen parks. People threatening to cancel vacations if they have to wear a mask in the ungodly Florida heat...it’s unacceptable! Which it’s hilarious because they’re saying people will pass out from heat exhaustion...but yet people in full costume parade their happy butts out for families day in and day out. They’ve obviously never had to play the Easter Bunny. I have...those things are brutal and masks are a cakewalk. I mean, Orlando’s average temperature for the next couple months is only 3 degrees higher than here...and as far as I know no one has passed out from mask heat exhaustion. I have a Disney vacation planned for September 1st and am likely to cancel it, not because of restrictions but more or less i dont anticipate a full reopening. We go every couple years for the food and wine festival which ill assume is canceled. I'll also assume they'll have everything reduced. Not interested in spending $8k for half the experience. I see no problem with that whatsoever. People deserve to get the experience they want. There’s just people going overboard with their complaints about it threatening to start vacationing elsewhere and that they’re infringing on their freedoms forcing them to wear a mask. (Private property...private business and all that.) I’m ok with it. I’m sitting on four day Disney tickets I plan on using the second they open. More room for me at the parks haha. (I am disappointed we missed the Flower festival this year though...kinda hoping they extended it.)
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Post by Cyno on May 17, 2020 1:47:24 GMT -5
Half-filled Disney sounds great to me, personally, especially for hot spots like Galaxy's Edge. But then Disney's currently too rich for my blood.
But yeah, I'd expect any major events like the Food and Wine Festival are cancelled. We'd also have to see how Disney, Universal, and the like plan to actually phase their reopenings. You'd have to figure there's contingencies in place for a second wave of COVID-19 outbreak at least.
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Post by Rolent Tex on May 17, 2020 1:53:13 GMT -5
Half-filled Disney sounds great to me, personally, especially for hot spots like Galaxy's Edge. But then Disney's currently too rich for my blood. But yeah, I'd expect any major events like the Food and Wine Festival are cancelled. We'd also have to see how Disney, Universal, and the like plan to actually phase their reopenings. You'd have to figure there's contingencies in place for a second wave of COVID-19 outbreak at least. Florida resident tickets are super cheap at times of the year. Like $50 a park a day for 4 days. They haven’t informed employees about returning yet...they can send their reopening plan to City management on Monday.
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Post by J. Hova on May 17, 2020 2:16:33 GMT -5
I've pretty much just crapped all over the social distancing today.
I ran to the local gas station this afternoon as I needed some 2 cycle oil and gas for the various lawn tools. I got home in time for my grocery delivery, which is freaking awesome. I've always been hesitant to do it as I like to look at the produce, beef, chicken, etc. before buying it. I might do this moving forward, period. I no sooner get everything put away and my mom calls me and asks when the next time I'm going to the store, which is her way of asking me to go get groceries for her. So when I was at Wal Mart half an hour later, I swear 95% of people were wearing masks and out of those, 65% were wearing gloves. After I got home, my elderly neighbors in the house next door came knocking on my door to troubleshoot their home computer issues. I eventually just walked over there and fixed it since they are your 1950s TV neighbor (i.e. bring pies over to new neighbors).
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Post by HMARK Center on May 17, 2020 6:58:28 GMT -5
Couple of more very interesting articles from the end of the week; these are more opinion/analysis, but they discuss some really interesting possibilities. One is from Washington Post, arguing that the US could likely end the full-scale pandemic by July 4th if we committed to a real testing/tracing/safety measures program. Basically, they argue to divide the country into "Red-Yellow-Green" zones depending on rate of infection, with safety measures correlating to infection rate and granting people who need to isolate a stipend to stay home from work: It's an interesting idea, and they argue that it'd really take a commitment to spending something like $74 billion to fully build up our national testing/tracing capacity. Another thing to consider is this take by Alex Soojung-Kim Pang; he's an author who supports a shorter work week, and has an op-ed up arguing that the changes we've seen during this time prove that there really isn't a "need" for the five day work week as we've so long known it: More here (Atlantic gives limited free articles per month)Finally, one more VERY big deal that stems from the pandemic situation: for the first time in recorded modern history, renewable energy sources are making more of America's energy than coal is, which has some very positive implications for combating climate change.The last two articles here kind of go back to something I said in the last thread: if we're going to serious address climate change as a crisis, we'll have to do so in a way that resembles some of what we're doing now. Maybe not full shutdowns or quarantines, but we need to encourage any kind of more energy efficient way of living we can, and that can mean anything that keeps people from driving as much (in this case, reducing the need to commute, especially in heavy traffic) to allowing large, inefficient office buildings/factories/etc. to be closed more often so they're not using up so many resources. Basically, we've got a chance here to start a new normal that might save us from the looming crisis that is climate change (and it's already setting in as a crisis in much of the world as it is), but a lot might come down to what lessons we take from the COVID 19 experience.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on May 17, 2020 8:16:01 GMT -5
A side benefit of increasing the focus on renewables is that lower air pollution means fewer breathing problems, lessening the impact of the disease.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on May 17, 2020 8:21:23 GMT -5
Half-filled Disney sounds great to me, personally, especially for hot spots like Galaxy's Edge. But then Disney's currently too rich for my blood. But yeah, I'd expect any major events like the Food and Wine Festival are cancelled. We'd also have to see how Disney, Universal, and the like plan to actually phase their reopenings. You'd have to figure there's contingencies in place for a second wave of COVID-19 outbreak at least. Half capacity would sound great but I’m assuming certain attractions would be closed. I’d be almost certain the quick serve restaurants would be closed and especially the cancelling of the Food and Wine festival. Again, It’s not a cheap trip. I’m not blaming Disney. I understand why they’d have to take the precautions.
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Post by The Ichi on May 17, 2020 11:15:50 GMT -5
I just encountered my first "THE WHOLE THING IS A LIE" customer at work today. He then tells me my face mask is pointless because it enters the eyes first.
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Post by eJm on May 17, 2020 11:26:54 GMT -5
Ireland just announced its lowest death toll and new cases confirmed since this whole thing started just as easing of restrictions start tomorrow.
Please don’t mess this up, Ireland.
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Post by Rolent Tex on May 17, 2020 11:32:49 GMT -5
I just encountered my first "THE WHOLE THING IS A LIE" customer at work today. He then tells me my face mask is pointless because it enters the eyes first. Well yeah...tell the genius the masks aren’t meant to keep you from getting sick....
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Post by HMARK Center on May 17, 2020 11:43:42 GMT -5
I just encountered my first "THE WHOLE THING IS A LIE" customer at work today. He then tells me my face mask is pointless because it enters the eyes first. Well yeah...tell the genius the masks aren’t meant to keep you from getting sick.... Yep. There has been some legitimate thought from people in the scientific community that, yes, it's possible that the virus might be able to enter through the eyes, but the masks are explicitly about not getting other people sick in case you're carrying the virus and just happen to be asymptomatic. Saw a comment somewhere online that made the best counterpoint possible to the whole "this is all a lie, it's (insert the name of your governor here) trying to consolidate power!" argument: what governor in the United States would want to initiate a series of viral mitigation strategies that end up causing unemployment to quintuple in an election year for many of them? What governor would want to make their lives infinitely more difficult by having to go to daily COVID briefings, give regular press conferences (well, those can be good for a politician's visibility, but they have to actually work hard on these), do tons of studying in a field they're likely not familiar with, and just plain make their jobs harder to do? Shit, what human being would want that?
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on May 17, 2020 11:54:13 GMT -5
Half-filled Disney sounds great to me, personally, especially for hot spots like Galaxy's Edge. But then Disney's currently too rich for my blood. But yeah, I'd expect any major events like the Food and Wine Festival are cancelled. We'd also have to see how Disney, Universal, and the like plan to actually phase their reopenings. You'd have to figure there's contingencies in place for a second wave of COVID-19 outbreak at least. Half capacity would sound great but I’m assuming certain attractions would be closed. I’d be almost certain the quick serve restaurants would be closed and especially the cancelling of the Food and Wine festival. Again, It’s not a cheap trip. I’m not blaming Disney. I understand why they’d have to take the precautions. Disney parks opening up again are going to be a trip. No one’s going to be happy lol. The most beautiful I ever saw the park was going into work for it at 4:00 am when it was absolutely empty but I get the feeling with capped-off capacity we’re going to hear a lot of “..it’s not the same” from people.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on May 17, 2020 12:17:10 GMT -5
A Red-Yellow-Green zone is basically what India is attempting at this moment.
Israel as well depending on populations, rather than areas of the country.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on May 17, 2020 13:10:06 GMT -5
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Post by Cyno on May 17, 2020 14:34:59 GMT -5
Well yeah...tell the genius the masks aren’t meant to keep you from getting sick.... Yep. There has been some legitimate thought from people in the scientific community that, yes, it's possible that the virus might be able to enter through the eyes, but the masks are explicitly about not getting other people sick in case you're carrying the virus and just happen to be asymptomatic. Saw a comment somewhere online that made the best counterpoint possible to the whole "this is all a lie, it's (insert the name of your governor here) trying to consolidate power!" argument: what governor in the United States would want to initiate a series of viral mitigation strategies that end up causing unemployment to quintuple in an election year for many of them? What governor would want to make their lives infinitely more difficult by having to go to daily COVID briefings, give regular press conferences (well, those can be good for a politician's visibility, but they have to actually work hard on these), do tons of studying in a field they're likely not familiar with, and just plain make their jobs harder to do? Shit, what human being would want that? Especially in states like New York, New Jersey, and California, does anyone really think they want to completely board up their tourism/vacation industries just as getaway holidays and summer start up? That's a massive chunk of cash flowing into the states' and residents' pocketbooks just *poof* disappearing like that.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on May 17, 2020 14:35:24 GMT -5
My job is now ordering me back to work tomorrow. I live in a city, and I'm genuinely not sure if it's gonna be a better idea to walk for an hour across the 2nd busiest city in North England on a bad knee, or to take the probably crowded bus to work.
My anorexia was so bad as a teenager that I'm just straight up assuming my immune system is shot.
I work as an accountant in a bank. I'm being honest here, I really don't want to die to protect a business's money.
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Post by Pooh Carlson on May 17, 2020 19:25:53 GMT -5
There's a local news story about how today is the first day since May 4 that there are no new deaths in the region. The comments section is filled with people who have zero reading comprehension skills talking about there was just a death reported yesterday, so this is clearly fake news.
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Post by Cyno on May 17, 2020 21:07:45 GMT -5
There's a local news story about how today is the first day since May 4 that there are no new deaths in the region. The comments section is filled with people who have zero reading comprehension skills talking about there was just a death reported yesterday, so this is clearly fake news. There's almost always a lag with weekend numbers. So depending on where you are, you might not find out about deaths that took place on a Saturday or Sunday until Tuesday or even Wednesday.
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Post by HMARK Center on May 17, 2020 21:28:13 GMT -5
Yep. There has been some legitimate thought from people in the scientific community that, yes, it's possible that the virus might be able to enter through the eyes, but the masks are explicitly about not getting other people sick in case you're carrying the virus and just happen to be asymptomatic. Saw a comment somewhere online that made the best counterpoint possible to the whole "this is all a lie, it's (insert the name of your governor here) trying to consolidate power!" argument: what governor in the United States would want to initiate a series of viral mitigation strategies that end up causing unemployment to quintuple in an election year for many of them? What governor would want to make their lives infinitely more difficult by having to go to daily COVID briefings, give regular press conferences (well, those can be good for a politician's visibility, but they have to actually work hard on these), do tons of studying in a field they're likely not familiar with, and just plain make their jobs harder to do? Shit, what human being would want that? Especially in states like New York, New Jersey, and California, does anyone really think they want to completely board up their tourism/vacation industries just as getaway holidays and summer start up? That's a massive chunk of cash flowing into the states' and residents' pocketbooks just *poof* disappearing like that.
Right, New Jersey's economy is going to get hit bad if the shore is pretty much shut down for most of the summer, and nobody in power wants that to happen...but if it does, it's because the alternative is even worse, not because there's some sort of nondescript power grab going on. That's Underpants Gnome "Step 2 - ??, Step 3 - Profit" thinking. I know they're looking to at least have the state beaches open with social distancing rules in place, but my main attraction when I head to Long Beach Island is the bar scene and a bunch of restaurants I like, and I can't imagine most of those operating as normal for the next good while.
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