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Post by fw91 on May 27, 2020 10:27:55 GMT -5
The new leadership at the top also seems like they've got good heads on their shoulders with some of the quiet hires they've made in the impromptu offseason in front office roles. Dolan's a clown, but it also sounds like he's been hands off with how the team is actually run day-to-day for the last few years. The only other common thread in the Knicks' incompetence is Steve Mills and he's (finally) gone. They'll probably suck more in the short-term because short of landing a Lebron-caliber player in the draft, rebuilds are long term projects. Yeah I’ve liked what they have done. No splashy hires outside of bringing in Rose to oversee everything. They just need to stick to the rebuild and not get antsy. it's the NBA though. If you can't get one or two superstars you are always in "rebuild" Even if you land a stud in the draft they are going to leave for superstar island and tamper to join up once the rookie contract is over.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 27, 2020 10:39:51 GMT -5
Yeah I’ve liked what they have done. No splashy hires outside of bringing in Rose to oversee everything. They just need to stick to the rebuild and not get antsy. it's the NBA though. If you can't get one or two superstars you are always in "rebuild" Even if you land a stud in the draft they are going to leave for superstar island and tamper to join up once the rookie contract is over. But you can't just leave outside of a few instances Typically rookies are locked down for at least 7-8 years because you hold RFA rights. Knicks panicked and traded Porzingis because he was crazy enough to threaten to go to Spain and even sign his one year tender that would allowed him to be a FA in the next season. No other rookies have been able to pull that move nor will they because you're leaving money on the table Point being, a rebuild can last up to 5 years. Sixers have shown a way to do it but teams get antsy after 2-3 years. For a team like the Knicks, they need to crawl before they can walk. Having a few seasons where you are the middle team that is in and out the playoffs is a starter because you have shown to at least be able do that. It is why the Clippers were able to create a perfect storm and get Kawhi and PG13
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on May 27, 2020 15:03:42 GMT -5
it's the NBA though. If you can't get one or two superstars you are always in "rebuild" Even if you land a stud in the draft they are going to leave for superstar island and tamper to join up once the rookie contract is over. But you can't just leave outside of a few instances Typically rookies are locked down for at least 7-8 years because you hold RFA rights. Knicks panicked and traded Porzingis because he was crazy enough to threaten to go to Spain and even sign his one year tender that would allowed him to be a FA in the next season. No other rookies have been able to pull that move nor will they because you're leaving money on the table Point being, a rebuild can last up to 5 years. Sixers have shown a way to do it but teams get antsy after 2-3 years. For a team like the Knicks, they need to crawl before they can walk. Having a few seasons where you are the middle team that is in and out the playoffs is a starter because you have shown to at least be able do that. It is why the Clippers were able to create a perfect storm and get Kawhi and PG13 Y’all been rebuilding for the last twenty years
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Post by Andy Martin on May 29, 2020 2:55:47 GMT -5
The Buffalo Sabres certainly feel like they're in that category.
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Post by deezy on May 30, 2020 12:36:29 GMT -5
No matter who they have coaching or on the squad, the answer is always the Redskins. Then. Now. Forever. 😔😔😔😔😔😔 Hurts my soul
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 22:25:05 GMT -5
Every times the Raiders are giving me hopes, they go right back to mediocrity.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jun 3, 2020 19:03:31 GMT -5
Now that the Raiders are in Vegas, they might start trying. My theory is, they deliberately kept the team bad so they could cry poverty and bitch about the stadium until they could move somewhere more glamorous, when they could actually start putting money into the team.
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Post by sfvega on Jun 7, 2020 2:51:19 GMT -5
Now that the Raiders are in Vegas, they might start trying. My theory is, they deliberately kept the team bad so they could cry poverty and bitch about the stadium until they could move somewhere more glamorous, when they could actually start putting money into the team. The Raiders are famous for having, by a pretty good margin, the least wealthy ownership in the NFL. The move is going to help them make more money, but I doubt it will drastically change their spending anytime soon.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jun 8, 2020 14:15:40 GMT -5
The Raiders were 12-4 a few years ago but once Derek Carr got hurt they were toast in the playoffs. Differential was only 31 points (which indicates more of an 8-8 or 9-7 team) though so I seriously doubt they would have gone all that far anyway. But the past couple of years it does seem like they've stopped caring until they hit Vegas.
I might have to agree with these Redskins comments. Washington occasionally will be okay but that's about it. Pretty much since Joe Gibbs left town they've just been so marginal. They might occasionally be a marginal 9-7 or even 10-6 playoff team but that's about it.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 8, 2020 14:38:22 GMT -5
The Buffalo Sabres certainly feel like they're in that category. Every few years, it feels like they start to figure things out. This is followed by a complete nosedive.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jun 8, 2020 14:48:37 GMT -5
The NHL really doesn't. Some are in rebuilds but know the future looks good. Depend how low the rebuild takes is another story. The Kings, Buffalo and San Jose I think have a long road ahead. The NFL Brown seems to have these high hopes like last season and boom not close to what they are expecting. Honestly think the Chargers are doomed in LA. Even if the Rams suck which I see them in a few years having all kinds of issue with Cap.
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Post by J. Hova on Jun 8, 2020 20:19:39 GMT -5
MLB - Mets are just garbage from ownership on down. You want to read about cronyism in professional sports, just look at the son. It was rumored before the world burnt down that they were looking sell the team under the condition that Fredo stay in some role for 5 or 10 years.
NBA - Knicks will never be a powerhouse until the owner goes. That nutjob won't sell or be forced to sell unless he is caught sacrificing live children to satan.
NFL - The Lions shouldn't even be considered a team at this point. It's one thing to be a team that just barely misses the playoffs year after year, and then there's the Lions.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jun 9, 2020 11:22:04 GMT -5
NFL - The Lions shouldn't even be considered a team at this point. It's one thing to be a team that just barely misses the playoffs year after year, and then there's the Lions. I like the pick of the Lions as "No Hope". Past: They squandered arguably the best Running Back Ever AND they squandered a wide receiver that was almost impossibly gifted who had a Hall of Fame talent QB throwing the ball to him. Plus you know, 0-16 in the recent past as a nice black eye in history. Present: Not shitty enough to get first round picks, shitty enough to have no expectations. Future Hope: little to none. Next 3 years I see 8 win seasons as being about as high as they can go. I will forever argue that the worst position a team can be in, is the 6-8 wins. Not bad enough for the first couple draft picks. Not good enough to pull in any free agents that care about winning. If you stay in that zone 2-3 seasons in a row it becomes a hard path to escape.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jun 10, 2020 0:23:23 GMT -5
I feel like every NFL team has some amount of hope. Almost every team in my lifetime (26 years) has had a good year and all you need to do is make the playoffs to have a shot. I've also seen small budget teams like the Royals and Rays succeed in baseball. The NHL is random enough where anything can happen in the playoffs and more than half the league makes it there. So I feel like the right answer is probably a lower middle tier NBA team like my Hornets. You need to draft well to recruit a star when you aren't a big market team or one with some history. And with the lottery, being bad doesn't necessarily give you that ability. And middle tier teams going on deep playoff runs is extremely rare. It's not like any team is an impossible situation. The Bucks were middling for a while and then drafted Giannis without even needing a top pick and then built a great team around him. But the stars definitely need to align somewhat to get to that point.
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