unc40
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Post by unc40 on May 25, 2020 20:28:55 GMT -5
Some hall of fames are very lenient when it comes to inducting new members while others are very tough. Which hall of fame is best when it comes to who gets in.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on May 25, 2020 20:51:15 GMT -5
I think the LPGA HOF is notoriously difficult to be elected into
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on May 27, 2020 20:38:06 GMT -5
I always liked how the baseball one had seasoned reporters represented as voters.
I’m not sure what the criteria of the others are and who determines who goes in. Hopefully they’re more rigid than the WWE Hall of Fame.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2020 8:16:52 GMT -5
Baseball likes to wipe away its own history too much for me to consider it the best
I'll go with basketball. Your overall career from college, olympics, professional league matters. For example, people still try to say Melo isn't a HOF player based upon his NBA career. Well, add in him probably being the best olympic basketball player archetype they've had with 3 gold metals and his NCAA championship, he more then qualifies
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Post by Push R Truth on May 28, 2020 14:44:55 GMT -5
My biggest issue with the Baseball Hall of Fame: The assholes that won't vote for an obvious Hall of Fame Talent the first time around because of the "honor" of being a first ballot Hall of Famer.
These assholes have artificially altered the supposed extra "honor" by morphing it from "this guy was that damn good" to "some baseball nerd purposefully sandbagged the ballot". They have in actuality destroyed the "honor" they were trying to protect.
So that is why Basketball gets my vote. It's not linked to a particular league and has no problem inducting anybody that truly impacted the sport. It just feels "right".
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2020 15:26:31 GMT -5
My biggest issue with the Baseball Hall of Fame: The assholes that won't vote for an obvious Hall of Fame Talent the first time around because of the "honor" of being a first ballot Hall of Famer. These assholes have artificially altered the supposed extra "honor" by morphing it from "this guy was that damn good" to "some baseball nerd purposefully sandbagged the ballot". They have in actuality destroyed the "honor" they were trying to protect. So that is why Basketball gets my vote. It's not linked to a particular league and has no problem inducting anybody that truly impacted the sport. It just feels "right". Writers being asses have really put a damper on baseball HOF. They make it more about themselves then the numbers an individual put up to justify being in
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Post by sfvega on May 28, 2020 16:22:52 GMT -5
My biggest issue with the Baseball Hall of Fame: The assholes that won't vote for an obvious Hall of Fame Talent the first time around because of the "honor" of being a first ballot Hall of Famer. These assholes have artificially altered the supposed extra "honor" by morphing it from "this guy was that damn good" to "some baseball nerd purposefully sandbagged the ballot". They have in actuality destroyed the "honor" they were trying to protect. So that is why Basketball gets my vote. It's not linked to a particular league and has no problem inducting anybody that truly impacted the sport. It just feels "right". I don't have a problem with them protecting the title of first ballot HOFer, but there are some guys who deserve to be unanimous HOFers. Like if you left Randy Johnson or Derek Jeter or Griffey off your ballot at any time for any reason, you shouldn't be voting. I bet Pujols won't be unanimous either. And these are guys whose rèsumè list are miles long. Guys who meet standards should get in eventually, but guys who obliterate standards have no business ever being left off anyone's ballot.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 16:56:37 GMT -5
The baseball HOF is toxic as hell. Just petty sports writers with outdated "rules" and standards about who to vote for and when.
I'd go with the NBA on this one. You'll never see the NBA say "T-Mac isn't a first ballot HOF, so let's wait 2 years before inducting him". It's more like "yeah, he's a HOF'er, he's in". That's the way it should be. You're either a HOF or you're not. It shouldn't be based on some biased sports journalists.
Plus, I'm on team Barry Bonds.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on May 28, 2020 18:50:43 GMT -5
Baseball likes to wipe away its own history too much for me to consider it the best I'll go with basketball. Your overall career from college, olympics, professional league matters. For example, people still try to say Melo isn't a HOF player based upon his NBA career. Well, add in him probably being the best olympic basketball player archetype they've had with 3 gold metals and his NCAA championship, he more then qualifies I think it's easy to make the case Carmelo Anthony heavily underachieved in his career,but if he never played in the NCAA or Olympics he is still first ballot HOF. 10 time all star and 6 time made the all nba. 1st ballot in any sport for that
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Post by sfvega on May 28, 2020 21:33:29 GMT -5
Baseball likes to wipe away its own history too much for me to consider it the best I'll go with basketball. Your overall career from college, olympics, professional league matters. For example, people still try to say Melo isn't a HOF player based upon his NBA career. Well, add in him probably being the best olympic basketball player archetype they've had with 3 gold metals and his NCAA championship, he more then qualifies Based on JUST Melo's NBA career, he is a compiler who was never or at-best very rarely elite. Like a Cris Carter. He'd get in eventually, but he wouldn't be as much of an immediate lock without being the all-time leading Olympic scorer and the Cuse national championship. He was only top 10 in MVP voting twice, he only won two playoff series' IIRC, he never passed, always cherry-picked, never tried on defense, had effort and attitude problems.
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Post by Cyno on May 28, 2020 21:56:34 GMT -5
What I like about the Basketball Hall of Fame is that it's a hall of fame of the entire sport, not just the NBA. It recognizes the greatness at not just the NBA level, but greatness at the pinnacle of the amateur sport (Olympics, NCAA Division I) as well as international players and women at both the professional and collegiate level.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 29, 2020 2:22:56 GMT -5
Baseball likes to wipe away its own history too much for me to consider it the best I'll go with basketball. Your overall career from college, olympics, professional league matters. For example, people still try to say Melo isn't a HOF player based upon his NBA career. Well, add in him probably being the best olympic basketball player archetype they've had with 3 gold metals and his NCAA championship, he more then qualifies Based on JUST Melo's NBA career, he is a compiler who was never or at-best very rarely elite. Like a Cris Carter. He'd get in eventually, but he wouldn't be as much of an immediate lock without being the all-time leading Olympic scorer and the Cuse national championship. He was only top 10 in MVP voting twice, he only won two playoff series' IIRC, he never passed, always cherry-picked, never tried on defense, had effort and attitude problems. You’re a HOF player or you’re not, 1st ballot does not matter in the NBA. He was getting in off NBA numbers it’s just the last few years of his career has brought him down and his own ego to not adapt
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Post by sfvega on May 29, 2020 3:20:36 GMT -5
Based on JUST Melo's NBA career, he is a compiler who was never or at-best very rarely elite. Like a Cris Carter. He'd get in eventually, but he wouldn't be as much of an immediate lock without being the all-time leading Olympic scorer and the Cuse national championship. He was only top 10 in MVP voting twice, he only won two playoff series' IIRC, he never passed, always cherry-picked, never tried on defense, had effort and attitude problems. You’re a HOF player or you’re not, 1st ballot does not matter in the NBA. He was getting in off NBA numbers it’s just the last few years of his career has brought him down and his own ego to not adapt I'm not saying it matters, just that he's obviously way less qualified without the whole picture than he is with it. Nobody gives a shit about the end of the career. VC and Shaq were league-average players at the end. Their legacy is already set in stone. Tony Parker too.
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Post by Fundertaker on May 29, 2020 8:50:07 GMT -5
The FIFA Hall Of Fame. Why? It doesn't exist!
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on May 29, 2020 21:12:35 GMT -5
I know very little about the rest, but I’ll say the baseball hall of fame is invalid and doesn’t even deserve capital letters until Barry Bonds gets his rightful place among everyone else.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball☝🏻 on May 29, 2020 23:53:49 GMT -5
Fine. I'll go hockey. All the points you guys make are true of hockey and it waived the waiting period of 4 years down to to about 4 nanoseconds for Gretzky, because of course.
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