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Post by Dave the Dave on Jun 5, 2020 18:17:39 GMT -5
This is just a nostalgia based fun thread. Let’s just list and talk about some old indie faves
I broke out some old ROH dvds while I was moving. Watching “Redemption” from 2005.
Opening match was Delirious and Sterling James Keenan who both went on to be important. Then we’ve got Matt Stryker who was good but charisma impaired. He apparently retired in 2005. In a similar vein I found out Chad Collyer is a magician.
I mostly couldn’t believe Daizee Haze has been retired for 9 years. I always enjoyed her. I remember her most honestly as part of the BDK in Chikara which I loved.
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Post by Hypnosis on Jun 5, 2020 18:48:01 GMT -5
Reckless Youth-Read a lot about him in '99 and the early 2000s.
MsChif-One of Shimmer's big names. Now retired.
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Post by XIII on Jun 5, 2020 18:57:43 GMT -5
Michael Modest was a name for a while. Had a match or two in WCW and some tryout matches with the WWF, and I want to say a brief run in Japan and then disappeared. Can’t remember what happened to him though.
The Black Nature Boy Scoot Andrews
SAT.
Not really sure what happened to any of these guys to be honest.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Jun 5, 2020 20:03:10 GMT -5
Michael Modest was a name for a while. Had a match or two in WCW and some tryout matches with the WWF, and I want to say a brief run in Japan and then disappeared. Can’t remember what happened to him though. I remember him getting quite a lot of attention from the insider magazines around 1999/2000. After WCW's demise he became a regular in NOAH for a number of years and promoted Pro Wrestling IRON. It appears he's still around on the California and Nevada independent scene, but is mostly a trainer now. Had he been five or ten years younger he might have had a decent run in ROH in the 2000s.
2000s ROH is a goldmine for independent wrestlers who drifted into relative obscurity; Jimmy Rave, Xavier, the Amazing Red, Dan Maff, the SAT, I could go on.
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Post by mrpeacock on Jun 5, 2020 20:26:10 GMT -5
Like Reckless Youth, Cheetah Master was another name id always see in magazines. I’ve seen some of Youths work. Don’t think I ever saw Master.
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Post by toodarkmark on Jun 5, 2020 20:30:59 GMT -5
Human Tornado was a lot of fun in PWG and ROH.
Larry Sweeney <3.
Alex Koslov was a good mid 00s Russian heel. Loved his work in CMLL.
Scott Lost also in PWG.
Lacey and Jimmy Jacob's emo music video for her. Very early viral online wrestling video stuff. Before the internet heel turn.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 20:46:40 GMT -5
Michael Modest was a name for a while. Had a match or two in WCW and some tryout matches with the WWF, and I want to say a brief run in Japan and then disappeared. Can’t remember what happened to him though. I remember him getting quite a lot of attention from the insider magazines around 1999/2000. After WCW's demise he became a regular in NOAH for a number of years and promoted Pro Wrestling IRON. It appears he's still around on the California and Nevada independent scene, but is mostly a trainer now. Had he been five or ten years younger he might have had a decent run in ROH in the 2000s.
2000s ROH is a goldmine for independent wrestlers who drifted into relative obscurity; Jimmy Rave, Xavier, the Amazing Red, Dan Maff, the SAT, I could go on.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 20:48:22 GMT -5
Takeshi Morishima
Necro Butcher
Larry Sweeney (RIP)
Jimmy Jacobs
I thought all of these would be in WWE eventually
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 5, 2020 21:01:22 GMT -5
Chris Bosh
Disco Machine
Billy Fives
The Backseat Boys
The Messiah
Rich Michaels
Onyx
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Post by Hypnosis on Jun 5, 2020 21:42:49 GMT -5
Takeshi Morishima Necro Butcher Larry Sweeney (RIP) Jimmy Jacobs I thought all of these would be in WWE eventually Jacobs is currently a backstage interviewer for Impact, but I think he still wrestled on the indies in recent years, including matches against Jimmy Havoc and Mance Warner. |
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Post by Spider2024 on Jun 5, 2020 21:44:15 GMT -5
Human Tornado was a lot of fun in PWG and ROH. Larry Sweeney <3. Alex Koslov was a good mid 00s Russian heel. Loved his work in CMLL. Scott Lost also in PWG. Lacey and Jimmy Jacob's emo music video for her. Very early viral online wrestling video stuff. Before the internet heel turn. The internet didn't sell out, it bought in! |
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jun 5, 2020 22:38:01 GMT -5
That’s why I started this thread. I forgot about Human Tornado. Now I’ve got some YouTube-ing to do.
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Post by Viking Hall on Jun 6, 2020 4:48:43 GMT -5
To go with Michael Modest, Donovan Morgan. Those two must have had more matches both teaming and against each other than they did anyone else.
Don Montoya was another name that used to appear in mags a lot too. He was in the Black T-Shirt Squad with Reckless Youth and Mike Quackenbush but seemed to have basically disappeared by the early 2000's.
One for WOW Magazine readers, Adam Windsor. He was an English kid who was trained by Dory Funk Jr. and was touted for what seemed like years as one of the futures of the business before doing precisely f*** all.
And finally, 'The Colorado Kid' Mike Rapada was a name I remember reading a lot. I think he actually did get some WCW airtime and won the NWA title at one point, but I don't think I heard about him again once the Indie Boom hit.
None of these guys can have been exactly old by the time Indie wrestling really started gaining momentum so is it just a case that those who came along after and became the stars were to put it bluntly, just better?
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Jun 6, 2020 13:24:14 GMT -5
One for WOW Magazine readers, Adam Windsor. He was an English kid who was trained by Dory Funk Jr. and was touted for what seemed like years as one of the futures of the business before doing precisely f*** all. I had completely forgotten Adam Windsor. There was indeed a time around the early-to-mid 2000s when he was going to be the next big thing, then he wasn't. I did a bit of research a while ago and my understanding is that his status as the next big thing wasn't down to his wrestling ability. He was apparently a huge money mark and his family was paying an absolute fortune for his training, resulting in him getting major preferential treatment from Funk - who supposedly even fell out with Howard Brody when Brody was NWA president because he wouldn't put the title on Windsor - in the shape of a mega push, never doing jobs or working with people he didn't want to, etc. The two parties ended up having a huge falling out around 2005, the nature of which is the subject of all sorts of clandestine rumours, and Windsor either became disillusioned and quit the business, or developed a big head despite never actually being that good and no other promoter would book him.
I'm curious to know the nature of the rumours though, because there was definitely something very peculiar about the whole affair.
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Post by XIII on Jun 6, 2020 13:59:13 GMT -5
Chad Collyer got some buzz around 2000 or so
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Jun 6, 2020 15:37:03 GMT -5
I thought it might've been something like that when I saw how cagey people in the know were about revealing what actually happened. |
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Post by Viking Hall on Jun 6, 2020 16:08:23 GMT -5
I thought it might've been something like that when I saw how cagey people in the know were about revealing what actually happened. He ended up marrying Chris Adams daughter (Steve Austins adopted daughter) Jade Adams I believe. He turned up in the UK again about 6 years ago to some kind of benefit show in Coventry which was hailed as something of a homecoming for the (and I quote) former WWE, WCW and TNA star. |
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Jun 6, 2020 18:47:26 GMT -5
He ended up marrying Chris Adams daughter (Steve Austins adopted daughter) Jade Adams I believe. He turned up in the UK again about 6 years ago to some kind of benefit show in Coventry which was hailed as something of a homecoming for the (and I quote) former WWE, WCW and TNA star. Yeah, I find it strange that someone who I think was supposed to be (kayfabe) something in line to the throne - presumably he came just after the corgis - was billed from Coventry. Anyone who's been there, or indeed who hasn't been there, knows this is hardly the place from which you would want to bill an aristocratic character. |
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Post by Muskrat on Jun 6, 2020 19:10:13 GMT -5
Takeshi Morishima Necro Butcher Larry Sweeney (RIP) Jimmy Jacobs I thought all of these would be in WWE eventually Jacobs is currently a backstage interviewer for Impact, but I think he still wrestled on the indies in recent years, including matches against Jimmy Havoc and Mance Warner. Jimmy Jacobs is a regular with CWE based out of Winnipeg. Pretty sure he was their jr. Heavyweight champ when they had to stop touring. |
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Jun 7, 2020 0:17:28 GMT -5
Trent Acid - I think he would have been a huge star if he hadn’t passed away. RIP. Guy had it all. Great in ring and tons of charisma
Others not mentioned:
Donovan Morgan
Ballard Brothers
B-Boy
Sonny Siaki
Damien Steele
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