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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Jun 19, 2020 11:04:59 GMT -5
Since people are talking about editing him out of SD. It made me say what if he interrupted the AJ IC Celebration to set shit up? Do they toss out that whole segment?
I really didn't want to talk about the allegations, but my thought is I believe the victims until there's proof that they lied. Victims dealing with this shit have been through enough so calling them a liar or misinformed is just gross imo.
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Post by Viking Hall on Jun 19, 2020 11:12:46 GMT -5
I honestly think we're at the point now where these threads need to be shut down until there's either A) undeniable evidence or B) action being taken. Because the rate names are coming out now it's becoming out of control and unprecedented. We all know what's going on, we all know where to follow it, perhaps it should be left at that until the dust begins to clear and we know what's what.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Jun 19, 2020 11:27:32 GMT -5
Eh, this is WWE. They'll release some bullshit statement about how they're 'looking into it' and then will hope everyone forgets about it. They were pretty thorough with the case involving Rich Sawnn, so there is the precedence of them handling things correctly. OTOH, they didn't even wait with the Enzo deal, IIRC.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 19, 2020 11:29:38 GMT -5
I cant even anymore. That's freaking disgusting. I always thought Riddle had a dark side from his comments about not being on weed and beating his wife. Dude took way too much shit over that joke “Oh man, of course I smoke weed. Need something to mellow me out so I don’t strangle my kids some days hahaha” was the gist of what he said. He wasn’t being serious, he wasn’t advocating child abuse, he made a joke. You can question the taste of the joke all you want, but Dana White blew it up like he was a violent abuser without weed and everybody ran with it. That being said, f***, as a fan I hope this isn’t true but at this point I’m not willing to question much. Don’t wanna be accused of being a rape defender
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2020 11:31:17 GMT -5
Doesn't WWE have a zero tolerance policy supposedly that they will pull you from TV entirely and suspend you until an investigation is completed, or is that only if charges are filed?
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Post by Viking Hall on Jun 19, 2020 11:36:30 GMT -5
Doesn't WWE have a zero tolerance policy supposedly that they will pull you from TV entirely and suspend you until an investigation is completed, or is that only if charges are filed? I would imagine that only works if a wrestler is being formally investigated and/or charged. To put it bluntly, as horrible as the accusation is, it is just a Twitter post and from that point of view, WWE have absolutely no right to terminate his contract for what is essentially at this stage, hearsay.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jun 19, 2020 11:46:12 GMT -5
Doesn't WWE have a zero tolerance policy supposedly that they will pull you from TV entirely and suspend you until an investigation is completed, or is that only if charges are filed? I would imagine that only works if a wrestler is being formally investigated and/or charged. To put it bluntly, as horrible as the accusation is, it is just a Twitter post and from that point of view, WWE have absolutely no right to terminate his contract for what is essentially at this stage, hearsay. They’ve fired people lately who didn’t do anything wrong. Rights don’t really come into how WWE does business.
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Post by Viking Hall on Jun 19, 2020 11:47:11 GMT -5
I would imagine that only works if a wrestler is being formally investigated and/or charged. To put it bluntly, as horrible as the accusation is, it is just a Twitter post and from that point of view, WWE have absolutely no right to terminate his contract for what is essentially at this stage, hearsay. They’ve fired people lately who didn’t do anything wrong. Rights don’t really come into how WWE does business. I mean, I can't deny that. I'm just saying, this doesn't fall into the same category as previous cases.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 19, 2020 11:49:12 GMT -5
Doesn't WWE have a zero tolerance policy supposedly that they will pull you from TV entirely and suspend you until an investigation is completed, or is that only if charges are filed? I would imagine that only works if a wrestler is being formally investigated and/or charged. To put it bluntly, as horrible as the accusation is, it is just a Twitter post and from that point of view, WWE have absolutely no right to terminate his contract for what is essentially at this stage, hearsay. [ You can terminate someone for pretty much any reason.
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Post by cornettesracket on Jun 19, 2020 11:51:12 GMT -5
They were pretty thorough with the case involving Rich Sawnn, so there is the precedence of them handling things correctly. OTOH, they didn't even wait with the Enzo deal, IIRC. IIRC, enzo was released in part because he failed to inform WWE of an ongoing investigation. That probably wasn't the only reason but it was the final one.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jun 19, 2020 11:52:23 GMT -5
The problem with this Riddle situation is it sounds like something that may or may not have happened in a car with a bunch of people sleeping. With Swann or Enzo there were actual police reports so WWE could take some sort of definitive action.
As far as what to believe, I dunno. Given the sheer number of UK guys being mentioned there seems to be a real culture of sleaze going on there. But after checking out this Riddle deal it kinda sounds like something where there's no serious way anything will be proven either way.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 19, 2020 12:00:26 GMT -5
OTOH, they didn't even wait with the Enzo deal, IIRC. IIRC, enzo was released in part because he failed to inform WWE of an ongoing investigation. That probably wasn't the only reason but it was the final one. That’s exactly why Enzo was released, they were originally just going to suspend him pending investigation but then they found out he knew this accusation and investigation were coming for awhile and didn’t give them the heads up
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jun 19, 2020 12:05:35 GMT -5
The problem with this Riddle situation is it sounds like something that may or may not have happened in a car with a bunch of people sleeping. Now that I think about it, wouldn’t the driver have been awake to see something? Surely this person could corroborate one side’s story
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jun 19, 2020 12:22:26 GMT -5
The problem with this Riddle situation is it sounds like something that may or may not have happened in a car with a bunch of people sleeping. Now that I think about it, wouldn’t the driver have been awake to see something? Surely this person could corroborate one side’s story It could have been his turn to drive. They could have been grabbing a quick hour of sleep at a rest stop. Many scenarios.
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Post by msc on Jun 19, 2020 12:32:01 GMT -5
Absolutely not. I was responding directly to what that poster was saying. I am stating that no behaviour displayed by someone who has not been accused will disqualify them for being a possible abuser. And it is completely possible for an abuser to rally around the mob for another abuser who just happened to be caught. Totally. I mean, we literally just had a comedian accused of grooming underage girls, who took an acting job to play a comedian who was grooming underage girls. All bets are off after that. Is that the chap from the 70s show thing or was there even more horror reported in the last month or so?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 19, 2020 12:36:31 GMT -5
Totally. I mean, we literally just had a comedian accused of grooming underage girls, who took an acting job to play a comedian who was grooming underage girls. All bets are off after that. Is that the chap from the 70s show thing or was there even more horror reported in the last month or so? Different one. I believe this is in reference to Chris D'Elia, not Danny Masterson.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 19, 2020 12:37:41 GMT -5
Totally. I mean, we literally just had a comedian accused of grooming underage girls, who took an acting job to play a comedian who was grooming underage girls. All bets are off after that. Is that the chap from the 70s show thing or was there even more horror reported in the last month or so? Chris D'elia, I think.
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Post by msc on Jun 19, 2020 12:42:40 GMT -5
Is that the chap from the 70s show thing or was there even more horror reported in the last month or so? Different one. I believe this is in reference to Chris D'Elia, not Danny Masterson. I don't know of him but bloody hell anyhow.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 19, 2020 12:53:29 GMT -5
Is that the chap from the 70s show thing or was there even more horror reported in the last month or so? Different one. I believe this is in reference to Chris D'Elia, not Danny Masterson. Yeah, Danny Masterson aka DJ Mom Jeans, has been flat out accused of multiple rapes from the early 2000’s
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 19, 2020 12:55:59 GMT -5
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